Israel declares War - Destruction of Gaza / Growing conflict in Middle East



Repeat after me: American foreign policy is not Israeli foreign policy, despite their objectives being in alignment at the moment.


Hamas, which has been in power in the Gaza Strip since 2007, says it is considering the latest truce proposal with a “positive spirit”.

But the group is deeply divided, and statements made by its political wing, now mainly based in Istanbul, often do not reflect the views of Yahya Sinwar, the organiser of the October attacks and most senior Hamas leader in Gaza.

Observers say that it is significant that the Hamas delegation now in Cairo is led by Khalil al-Hayya, deputy head of the group’s political arm in Gaza, rather than a more senior figure who might lack credibility with Sinwar, who has ultimate authority over any deal.

The Israeli government is also deeply divided. Senior members of its war cabinet are keen to secure a ceasefire and free surviving prisoners but far-right ministers have threatened to bring down Netanyahu’s ruling coalition if the war is not continued with greater force.

The United States, along with Egypt and Qatar, has been trying to seal a ceasefire deal in the nearly seven-month-old war.


Behind the scenes: Last Wednesday U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited Israel and had a "tough" conversation with Netanyahu regarding a possible Israeli operation in Rafah, two sources briefed on the meeting said.

  • Blinken told Netanyahu during their meeting that "a major military operation" in Rafah would lead to the U.S. publicly opposing it and would negatively impact U.S.-Israel relations.
  • A day later White House spokesman John Kirby told reporters that Israeli leaders understand that President Biden "is sincere" when he talks about the possibility of changes to U.S. policy regarding the Gaza war "should they move ahead with some sort of ground operation in Rafah that doesn't take into account the refugees."
  • White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said at a Financial Times conference in Washington on Saturday that the Biden administration made clear to Israel that the way it will conduct an operation in Rafah will influence U.S. policy towards the Gaza war.

Oh, and:

There were hundreds of counter-protesters, in contrast to the few dozen pro-Palestinian protesters. The scene evoked memories of the resistance to the civil rights struggle in the US south six decades earlier.

The counter-protesters included individuals waving American flags and Trump flags. At one point, they sang the American national anthem, drowning out the pro-Palestinian group’s chants. The Oxford Eagle reported that one person held a “Come and take it” flag while another flew a “Don’t tread on me” banner. The pro-Palestinian students held signs reading “Jesus was a Palestinian”, “Stop the genocide” and “Cut all ties with Israel”.

Good luck if Trump wins. You won't be able to move his administration with street protests or resignations.
 
Lol

Yup.

pilot needs his 8 hours state mandated rest before flying again
 
When you look at a map of Israel it is very very eeery to see dotted lines outlining Gaza.

Just the thought of explaining to a lay person: oh that’s where 2 million people live. There’s a giant wall with sensors and guns aimed at them if they approach. Nothing goes in or out without our approval. The sea is also blocked off past a certain distance. No airport. No planes. Constant drone activity with every single person registered with Israel. Phones tapped.


Just so damn weird why anyone would not be appalled by that.
 
Those that are not appalled are those that don't view those people as humans. It's pretty simple.

They view us as less than cattle.
Yea makes sense I guess

That’s why they don’t want Americans knowing about the reality bc most people here (I’m talking non political normal people you meet) would prob be appalled
 
Those that are not appalled are those that don't view those people as humans. It's pretty simple.

They view us as less than cattle.

Also, the whole lies and narrative on why they put on a siege and blockaded them, still after having occupied them for 56 years. They got blockaded to be punished for electing Hamas. Plain and simple. Also, because of the Gaza Marine offshore gas which Israel has been wanting to take over since the early 2000s. Hamas winning an election and being in control of that untapped oil reserve would have been too enriching for them in Israel's eyes. There was a lot of tensions brewing about that offshore reserve back in the early to mid-2000s between Egypt, Israel, PA vs. Hamas, but also other big time players. It is still a dominant talking point currently as well, which is glossed over in the mainstream press, unless you look deep into it.
 
Yea makes sense I guess

That’s why they don’t want Americans knowing about the reality bc most people here (I’m talking non political normal people you meet) would prob be appalled

Many people that have been there during the blockade have said that Gaza is a death concentration camp. Then some folks act appalled and surprised that Oct. 7th took place.
 
Great analysis. Israel won’t accept it though bc it would mean defeat for the genocidal regime there

 
Rafah offensive on holocaust remembrance day.

I'm sure the IDF will be particularly merciful to civillians on such an emotionally charged day.
 
Respect to y'all still active here exposing the depravity of the imperialist democratic part of the world.

What’s happening in Rafah now isn’t complicated, it’s sickening.

The reality is Israel can indiscriminately wipe 25% of the people there, use corporate media to launder their propaganda that they were human shields but the important thing is Hamas leaders were killed, and people would be more outraged over college protests.
 
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Respect to y'all still active here exposing the depravity of the imperialist democratic part of the world.

What’s happening in Rafah now isn’t complicated, it’s sickening.

The reality is Israel can indiscriminately wipe 25% of the people there, use corporate media to launder their propaganda that they were human shields but the important thing is Hamas leaders were killed, and people would be more outraged over college protests.
 
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But Hamas raped on October 7th, allegedly. According to a food critic and their IOF operative cousin who had an article published in the nyt. So this is fair game.
This the level of gymnastics we can read in the ** official political thread ** smh
 
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