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I may DL but nothin made me want to hear it (like singles) are suppose to do.
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Originally Posted by StillIn729
Originally Posted by shoepacalypse
He took what andre 3000 was trying to do with The Love Below, and went to a whole nother level with it. The creativity with the samples alone is genius.
I cant believe you just said 808's is better than the Love Below
Kanye is a very good producer who made "friends" in the industry, Kanye doesnt even write his own verses
he is barely average live, not hating on what he has been able to do but Kanye is no where near an all time great, but if you have a sneaker and fruity fashion, most of this board will love you
Originally Posted by ThunderChunk69
IF CUDI SANG THIS ALBUM IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A CLASSIC!!!
but no... Ye' wanted the shine and even autotune wasn't going to save it.
Originally Posted by Illuztrious
Originally Posted by fearthenut
Meaning? If dude was on some Slaughterhouse/Wu type steez where lyricism was all of his appeal it would be a big deal but dude makes music. He gets a pass.
Kanye doesn't make or create music. He pushes buttons that spit out sounds and then throws them together. He sure as hell isn't an "artist"
..and I don't really care to either.
As open minded about life as your, this surprises me yo.
Everything Jthagreat said + I don't care to hear 'that' from Kanye, in a nutshell. Would you play Kobe at center? No. That's what808 is, and I could go without it of principle alone.
This is art, not sports. A shooting guard could play center but wouldn't fair well battling against other defined centers since thats theirmain focus. But in art/music you are only battling yourself. So I think that's a big difference. Not saying everyone can do it, but I wouldn't discounteveryoneOriginally Posted by DearWinter219
I don't care to hear 'that' from Kanye, in a nutshell. Would you play Kobe at center? No. That's what 808 is, and I could go without it of principle alone.
Real talk.. I don't even have the energy shwap... you win by forfeit...Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick
This is art, not sports. A shooting guard could play center but wouldn't fair well battling against other defined centers since thats their main focus. But in art/music you are only battling yourself. So I think that's a big difference. Not saying everyone can do it, but I wouldn't discount everyoneOriginally Posted by DearWinter219
I don't care to hear 'that' from Kanye, in a nutshell. Would you play Kobe at center? No. That's what 808 is, and I could go without it of principle alone.
Originally Posted by shoepacalypse
He took what andre 3000 was trying to do with The Love Below, and went to a whole nother level with it. The creativity with the samples alone is genius.
Originally Posted by awwsome
I personally view 808's as somewhat of a masterpiece
If it is as simple as pushing buttons unless you are boarderline mentally ill or ******ed you can do something as simplistic as pushing a button.I can train a dog to do something as simple as press a button. Again to all who make this statement im waiting for your musically masterpiece to be displayedon the forum. What does market have to do with anything Kanye would stand out in any era. So you telling me that if 808 came out in lets say 1975 ppl wouldntsee notice it is different. If he wasnt some unique and different then how/why does he standout. This whole because he is mainstream bs is garbage. With thisinnovating invention called the internet there is no way you can go unoticed. People who arent even avid or care for rap music could tell if you played 808then played joe budden,immortal tech mf doom etc. They probably would think the other artist was all the same person. But Kanye would deff standout. Its justin todays market as you put it ppl see music as entertainment,something fun lively and free spirited. If he so muh the same.List all these albums that came outin that year that sounds similar to 808.Originally Posted by Keithdajuiceman
you guys OD on this kanye west stuff real talk, genius no I think not.....I can do without this album and keep the other 3 he has made.......but to the guy who was riding a sample saying a sample was genius shut the hell up.....i agree with the guy that said all kanye west do is push buttons in a machine (not saying he does not make good beats, because he does) his lyrics are average, his beats are good ive heard better....but in todays market i guess he stands out......to the guy comparing 808s to the love below
If it is as simple as a push of a button please bless us with your musical masterpiece. Im sure seeing that you can formulate sentences and typeon a keyboard, you can handle a less daunting task as pushing a button. And why does he stand out could it be cause he is different outside the norm, creativeinnovating. If not tell me this why can someone who isnt even into rap/hip hip genre spot him out over others. And ps clothes and shoes dont transcend on abeat so that tired lame excuse holds no merits.Originally Posted by Keithdajuiceman
you guys OD on this kanye west stuff real talk, genius no I think not.....I can do without this album and keep the other 3 he has made.......but to the guy who was riding a sample saying a sample was genius shut the hell up.....i agree with the guy that said all kanye west do is push buttons in a machine (not saying he does not make good beats, because he does) his lyrics are average, his beats are good ive heard better....but in todays market i guess he stands out......to the guy comparing 808s to the love below
It just hit me...Kanye is a genius.
LOL.
This has to be a !*%!%@+ joke. I know the point you are trying to make, but comparing doom to the other 2 and sounding the same? really? Ifanything, Doom would probably stand out amongst them because dukes doesn't ride the beat and his beats are different too.Originally Posted by shoepacalypse
If it is as simple as pushing buttons unless you are boarderline mentally ill or ******ed you can do something as simplistic as pushing a button. I can train a dog to do something as simple as press a button. Again to all who make this statement im waiting for your musically masterpiece to be displayed on the forum. What does market have to do with anything Kanye would stand out in any era. So you telling me that if 808 came out in lets say 1975 ppl wouldnt see notice it is different. If he wasnt some unique and different then how/why does he standout. This whole because he is mainstream bs is garbage. With this innovating invention called the internet there is no way you can go unoticed. People who arent even avid or care for rap music could tell if you played 808 then played joe budden,immortal tech mf doom etc. They probably would think the other artist was all the same person. But Kanye would deff standout. Its just in todays market as you put it ppl see music as entertainment,something fun lively and free spirited. If he so muh the same.List all these albums that came out in that year that sounds similar to 808.Originally Posted by Keithdajuiceman
you guys OD on this kanye west stuff real talk, genius no I think not.....I can do without this album and keep the other 3 he has made.......but to the guy who was riding a sample saying a sample was genius shut the hell up.....i agree with the guy that said all kanye west do is push buttons in a machine (not saying he does not make good beats, because he does) his lyrics are average, his beats are good ive heard better....but in todays market i guess he stands out......to the guy comparing 808s to the love below