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i can sit here an answer your question..i can sit here and argue.or just realize that you have your side and you will never understand mine..eventhough i understand yoursOriginally Posted by TraSoul82
Originally Posted by jefffort5
where.where..is those 4 questions u just asked knocked my theory that jordan didnt hit the finals until he got a good supporting cast...hmmmm not one of emOriginally Posted by TraSoul82
4 Questions:Originally Posted by jefffort5
no wrong...jordan made it to the finals once he got a supporting cast..jordan started as a shooter and ended as a shooter..in the middle somewhere he had players he could trust with the ball..and much better leadership than allen iversonOriginally Posted by TraSoul82
Not true, sir. Jordan made it to the finals once he committed to a system and realized that he needed to get his teammates involved. Jordan started his career as a chucker but then rounded out his game to reach the level he did.Originally Posted by codex57
This isn't a shock to me as I've always thought Iverson as selfish and pretty one dimensional. However, I still have way more respect for him than Marbury. He recognizes he's limited. He needs the ball and knows that one day, he's not gonna be able to keep up with young bucks. At that point, he's gonna retire. He's mad that Detroit thinks he can't focus, but at least he's restraining his comments and is willing to retire. He could have pulled a Marbury and made it more about money than respect. Jordan wasn't exactly a pleasing personality. However, Jordan and Iverson made it to the Finals their way. They were clearly people so good, that they could make it deep in the playoffs through both their talents and will. Plus, Iverson was still putting up monster numbers up until very recently. Marbury was never their level even though he thought he was. He's more like Derrick Coleman than an all time great. Very good, but not great. Not worth the emotional baggage. That's besides the pure money grubbing. I guess Sprewell is the best contemporary for Marbury. Even Artest, despite his temper, can be seen as "classier" than Marbury.
you kno the common sense question that nobody wants to answer is (drumroll please) what nba superstar would want to come off the bench and take the roll he's taking (dont worry I will wait again)
Do you realize that there is more to basketball than just offense?
Do you realize that Michael Jordan was member of the All-Defensive 1st team 9 times in his career?
Do you also realize that Iverson has never made an All-Defensive squad (and I don't mean the creation of his fan base)?
Do you realize that (drumroll please) Iverson is no longer a superstar?
There are plenty of reasons of why Jordan finally made it to the finals and was successful. Did you know that the flagrant foul was introduced due to the way the Pistons were literally beating him up (as well as other Bulls) in the Eastern Conference Finals of 1988? I'm sure that the rule changes helped Jordan get over the hump as well. Jordan likely would have already had trips to the finals if those rules were already in place. You actually think Jordan suddenly got a team and wallah, he's suddenly got 3 titles in a row? It wasn't an extra commitment to defense or becoming the closest thing to a player/coach the game has seen since Bill Russell? It had nothing to do with the formation of what would later be referred to as "The Breakfast Club"?Spoiler [+]Yes, we're talking about "practice."
This is just more proof that the average AI supporter is just a casual fan of basketball and doesn't know the history of the game. I'll also let you in on something: I choose my specific questions carefully and when you dodge them, just as others have throughout this post, you're basically proving my point for me. AI had the potential to be a champion, but he never had the commitment of a champion. If you don't respect your craft, ultimately your craft will not respect you. This is how an MVP can become a journeyman. You are witnessing it live and in color.
as a matter of fact..let me answer your questions
1. yes its playing the other side of the ball..and its called defense..which can be done collectively as a team..no ai is not a good defender...not defendingthat
2. Yes i kno the stats on mike
3. yes i kno the stats on mike an iverson
4. Iverson was still a superstar until he came to the pistons
no let me address the rest of yo bs....i already said ai was wrong on the practice said..and i also said two posts ago that Mike was a much better team leaderthan ai was or will ever be..but u aint peep that did you..i realize ai's weaknesses..but yall knocking him like he sum scrub
and u can cut out all that casual basketball fan +#+$#%!#....whoa check u out..ur a die hard fan of basketball...i dont give a @%+$ if ya grandfather was jamesnaismith I KNO BASKETBALL I GIVE A @%+$ WHAT U SAY
Michael Jordan was destined to be great...once he got the right pieces to the puzzle along with his leadership..the championships came..and you can sit hereand talk about "the breakfast club" blah blah blah..but its plenty of other superstars and legends who didnt work as hard as mike did..so what are uto say about that?
the pistons made the dumb move by trading a point guard for another shooting guard when they already had rip hamilton
AI was never in a position to be a champion..since he's been in the league..u give me a team put together well enough to beat any other team that was inthe league at that time? dont worry ill wait