Jeffrey Epstein commits suicide in Manhattan jail

The information is there & pretty clear for anyone to decipher what is BS or not..... which should be the case coming from any source of information

Also the Epstein "claims" were taken pretty serious by every major news outlet & the U.S government.... this isn't some message board conspiracy :lol: .
Wasn't there a thread about Epstein and JP Morgan a few weeks back that was quickly and thoroughly debunked?

Pepperidge Farm remembers:
 
Wasn't there a thread about Epstein and JP Morgan a few weeks back that was quickly and thoroughly debunked?

Pepperidge Farm remembers:

What you just led me too is a thread about Epstein's Business partnership with JP Morgan... which has nothing to do with the "accusations" of him spearheading a pedo ring.

Secondly, in pure typical NT fashion people were Thirsty to try & prove someone "wrong" instead of sticking to the topic at hand.

Unless something changed, the OP clearly quoted pieces of the article that stated JP Morgan had ties to Epstein from the late 80's to 2013, He was already facing criminal charges & literally serving time for soliciting prostitution to a minor & they still maintained business with him (Which was the OP's entire point)........ but again that isn't in relation to him & that pedo ring

There are various witnesses, multimedia companies, & government agencies that have covered this. It's way more than speculation & heresy at this point
 
What you just led me too is a thread about Epstein's Business partnership with JP Morgan... which has nothing to do with the "accusations" of him spearheading a pedo ring.

Secondly, in pure typical NT fashion people were Thirsty to try & prove someone "wrong" instead of sticking to the topic at hand.

Unless something changed, the OP clearly quoted pieces of the article that stated JP Morgan had ties to Epstein from the late 80's to 2013, He was already facing criminal charges & literally serving time for soliciting prostitution to a minor & they still maintained business with him........ but again that isn't in relation to him & that pedo ring

There are various witnesses, multimedia companies, & government agencies that have covered this. It's way more than speculation & heresy at this point
The overall point that I'm making is that there's a ton of ******** mixed into the actual truth of the matter, ******** that YOU YOURSELF seemed to co-sign based off of your repping of the original post.

And this is what I'm getting at: a lot of things involving Epstein or stories similar to his seem to get the low-information types stirred up into a frenzy, and they end up propagating half-baked theories that are easily debunked.

It only serves to discredit and trivialize anything that might actually be going on, and it turns actual skeptics away because they don't want to be associated with barbershop scholars or YouTubeologists.
 
I think the biggest thing stopping me from doing any sort of deep dive into any of the Epstein stuff or anything surrounding it is the type of people who push the narrative.

Hard for me to take a lot of the claims seriously when it comes from a collection of some of the dumbest people I know.
The message >>>>> the messenger.
 
The overall point that I'm making is that there's a ton of bull**** mixed into the actual truth of the matter, bull**** that YOU YOURSELF seemed to co-sign based off of your repping of the original post.

And this is what I'm getting at: a lot of things involving Epstein or stories similar to his seem to get the low-information types stirred up into a frenzy, and they end up propagating half-baked theories that are easily debunked.

It only serves to discredit and trivialize anything that might actually be going on, and it turns actual skeptics away because they don't want to be associated with barbershop scholars or YouTubeologists.

That same thing can be said for almost any scandal involving powerful people, however dismissing the situation totally & ignoring all the reporting, witnesses & legal documents throughout DECADES because there's also gossip surrounding it seems like the actions of a low information type.

those who claim to not be that should surely be able to tell the difference between NYT pieces & blog sites & weigh them differently to come to their own conclusions.
 
That same thing can be said for almost any scandal involving powerful people, however dismissing the situation totally & ignoring all the reporting, witnesses & legal documents throughout DECADES because there's also gossip surrounding it seems like the actions of a low information type.
When did I "dismiss the situation totally" or "ignore all the reporting"?

That's a massive exaggeration.
 
When did I "dismiss the situation totally" or "ignore all the reporting"?

That's a massive exaggeration.

I'm not talking about you specifically, i'm speaking about a hypothetical person using the framing you've given me. If someone views this Epstein/Maxwell scandal as even remotely close to your typical "half-baked theories that are easily debunked" & "barbershop scholars or YouTubeologists" i wouldn't assume that person is taking the scandal very seriously at all.
 
I mean there’s photographic evidence of Bill Clinton with Epstein too, it’s kind of wild how evident this stuff is and nothing has or will be done about to.

I honestly think they were using his island as a way to blackmail high profile people. Disgusting no matter how you look at it.
 
Dude serving a sentence for soliciting a minor & still being let out to "work" might be the most insane thing i've read about Epstein
 
Dude serving a sentence for soliciting a minor & still being let out to "work" might be the most insane thing i've read about Epstein

Is it?

You kinda “both sides it” and compared it to Pizza Gate, 3 years ago :lol.

This is more of a dialogue, and wondering if you seeing the clearest picture and smack in your face conspiracy. Trump//Epstein/Acosta/Kirkland & Ellis/Dershowitz etc

So in a nutshell Both high ranking republican & democratic officials have very questionable ties to this Epstein dude... who from all i have read has been relative non discreet with his pedophilia & sex trafficking of children.

My thing is while Pizzagate obviously wasn't true in regards to the specific meeting spots and it's target of specifically the DMC. the overlaying message of USA politicians being involved in a large spread sex ring was dismissed as a conspiracy back then... This Epstein case leans heavily on implicating just that.

So in all honesty was the pizza gate conspiracy really that farfetched? the details were off but the overarching theme turned out to be true & even broader than speculated.





This just blew my mind at the time...and is still crazy to me. The crazy part is....Trump gave Alex Acosta the Labor Secretary position...because of his role in giving Epstein that sweetheart deal...which When came to light, he resigned over :lol:. Part of that plea deal was none of the co-conspirators would be outted...and this was done in secret without the victims knowing. Trump even in this video as Acosta resigns...says it was a deal people were “happy with”.

And the part, where he randomly calls Acosta a “Hispanic man” is so f’n weird :smh: :lol:



I kinda want to hear your specifics on this…and what you draw? Like, is it crazier now?
 
Is it?

You kinda “both sides it” and compared it to Pizza Gate, 3 years ago :lol:.

This is more of a dialogue, and wondering if you seeing the clearest picture and smack in your face conspiracy. Trump//Epstein/Acosta/Kirkland & Ellis/Dershowitz etc







I kinda want to hear your specifics on this…and what you draw? Like, is it crazier now?

Bro i'm in here talking about Pedophilia being exposed & your somehow still trying to turn this into a political thing & deflect attention to Trump.... **** is disgusting at this point.

ANYBODY with ties to pedophilia & harming children deserve to be thrown in a cell, IDGAF about political ties. It's clear as day that both sides have had extremely suspect connection to this kind of activity. I'm not going to sit here & downplay anothers involvement because it doesn't look good for a political agenda
 
Bro i'm in here talking about Pedophilia being exposed & your somehow still trying to turn this into a political thing & deflect attention to Trump.... **** is disgusting at this point.

ANYBODY with ties to pedophilia & harming children deserve to be thrown in a cell, IDGAF about political ties. It's clear as day that both sides have had extremely suspect connection to this kind of activity. I'm not going to sit here & downplay anothers involvement because it doesn't look good for a political agenda

That’s not what I’m trying to do. I’m just asking you a very explicit question, about an obvious conspiracy right in your face, that happened at real time. Just your thoughts on that part specifically. Since you said it’s the most insane thing you’ve seen. I’m just laying out the players that made it happen, and who was rewarded for making that decision.

Got damn man :lol
 
Bruh you started the post off referencing my mention of both sides :lol:

and immediately went to Trump, But if you really want my opinion on it Trump is a man who has publicly insinuated he would sleep with his daughter if it wasn't his daughter, publicly bragged about groping women, Years upon years of suspicious photos/situation involving underage women

In the words of 50 "Whatever they say he did, he did that ****"

Now that we got that out the way, this convo can't just be parked at Trump because people are to emotionally attached to dude & act as if he's the cause of all these problems when in reality he's just one of the dozens who move that way, he just happens to be very bad at hiding it (or simply doesn't Give a ****).

Like if Today Trump went down for this i guarantee you the media would act as if all is well & they have gotten to the root of the problem & actually stopped something, meanwhile it will be business as usual for all the super rich to continue this wild *** behavior.
 
Bruh you started the post off referencing my mention of both sides :lol:

and immediately went to Trump, But if you really want my opinion on it Trump is a man who has publicly insinuated he would sleep with his daughter if it wasn't his daughter, publicly bragged about groping women, Years upon years of suspicious photos/situation involving underage women

In the words of 50 "Whatever they say he did, he did that ****"

Now that we got that out the way, this convo can't just be parked at Trump because people are to emotionally attached to dude & act as if he's the cause of all these problems when in reality he's just one of the dozens who move that way, he just happens to be very bad at hiding it (or simply doesn't Give a ****).

Like if Today Trump went down for this i guarantee you the media would act as if all is well & they have gotten to the root of the problem & actually stopped something, meanwhile it will be business as usual for all the super rich to continue this wild *** behavior.

Ok…it’s obviously, and I mean SUPER OBVIOUS that Epstein ran a blackmmail, sex trafficking ring..and that circle included the wealthiest people with power in varying industries. Disregard their political ties.

However, Epstein has been uniquely shielded and aided and abetted by a small, but power circle of people. And one of those people…was rewarded for the deal they gave Epstein and praised for it by the most powerful person on the planet at that time. That is very unique.

The then NEW Attorney General, also appointed by the most powerful person on the planet at that time (who Epstein’s father picked from relative obscurity with no credentials)…lied to the American public that he would recuse himself from that case. Then quietly, UN-RECUSED himself from that case, and took back overseeing Epstein case.

It is a fact that Epstein died under Bill Barr’s custody.

Now for one second. Take the politics (right/left/dem/republican/etc). You don’t find this stuff right here, to be a clear example of the power levers that make this **** what it is? Like, I really haven’t heard or seen you get into some of these very recent details, and how LEGIT insane it really is…that this was going on in broad day..with the most powerful person in the world at the time, pulling levers like this.

Like, I’m not even trying to do the politics/trump ****. Just putting out the literal facts of a crazy situation, that somehow gets ignored or reduced to “Pizzagate”.

Cmon man
 
Ok…it’s obviously, and I mean SUPER OBVIOUS that Epstein ran a blackmmail, sex trafficking ring..and that circle included the wealthiest people with power in varying industries. Disregard their political ties.

However, Epstein has been uniquely shielded and aided and abetted by a small, but power circle of people. And one of those people…was rewarded for the deal they gave Epstein and praised for it by the most powerful person on the planet at that time. That is very unique.

The then NEW Attorney General, also appointed by the most powerful person on the planet at that time (who Epstein’s father picked from relative obscurity with no credentials)…lied to the American public that he would recuse himself from that case. Then quietly, UN-RECUSED himself from that case, and took back overseeing Epstein case.

It is a fact that Epstein died under Bill Barr’s custody.

Now for one second. Take the politics (right/left/dem/republican/etc). You don’t find this stuff right here, to be a clear example of the power levers that make this **** what it is? Like, I really haven’t heard or seen you get into some of these very recent details, and how LEGIT insane it really is…that this was going on in broad day..with the most powerful person in the world at the time, pulling levers like this.

Like, I’m not even trying to do the politics/trump ****. Just putting out the literal facts of a crazy situation, that somehow gets ignored or reduced to “Pizzagate”.

Cmon man

In what world is this story being ignored or reduced to Pizzagate outside of people who are clearly extremely biased too Trump. This situation like many situations over the past few years is a nother example of powerful people using their connections & positions to cheat the legal system & get things their way. this is the way of the elite, it is insane but it isn't surprising at all. Who's really holding any of these people accountable?

We aren't gonna act like this nation isn't filled with people salivating to get Trump outta here & bring him down, this situation has been well noted, it's just a matter of nothing being able to be done about it, Because i ensure you it wouldn't be him by himself. chances are there's plenty of high ranking government officials, celebs, bankers, etc etc all caught up in that mix

That is the reason why this will never be truly investigated & dealt with the way it ideally should be.
 
In what world is this story being ignored or reduced to Pizzagate outside of people who are clearly extremely biased too Trump. This situation like many situations over the past few years is a nother example of powerful people using their connections & positions to cheat the legal system & get things their way. this is the way of the elite, it is insane but it isn't surprising at all. Who's really holding any of these people accountable?

We aren't gonna act like this nation isn't filled with people salivating to get Trump outta here & bring him down, this situation has been well noted, it's just a matter of nothing being able to be done about it, Because i ensure you it wouldn't be him by himself. chances are there's plenty of high ranking government officials, celebs, bankers, etc etc all caught up in that mix

That is the reason why this will never be truly investigated & dealt with the way it ideally should be.

We just talking passed each other man. 🤦🏾‍♂️
 
We just talking passed each other man. 🤦🏾‍♂️

no we aren't :lol:

My reaction to the information you shared isn't to your liking so your assuming i don't see your point. I do, i'm saying this is protocol for those in high powered positions. Until we have people with a backbone/no skeletons in their closet in positions of power these same kind of actions are going to continue to take place.

High ranking politician uses power to manipulate the law system & absolve their friends/partners from being prosecuted of their crimes. This is the way of American Politics, always has been & as long as we keep this current system in place it will remain the same. But i Truly & genuinely hope that Trump gets caught up in this, because he's 100% going Nino Brown on the stand annd a lot of these other filthy mf'ers would go down with him.

But maybe that's why he won't be prosecuted
 
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Is that confirmed from a reputable source?

Because I think it is kinda nasty to just throw dudes names in as being associated with Epstein

Especially when the implication is that they were sex trafficked and/or molested as kids.
 
I doubt it’s real. It’s probably because the song they thought it was funny.
 
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