- Dec 9, 2022
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It seems SZ is Gentry’s personal Nike sneaker making factory.
All those bulbous toe boxes that came from that era.
All those bulbous toe boxes that came from that era.
Jordan IV Black/Red Reimagined - February 17, 2024
- Thread in 'Jordan Brand' Thread starter Started by therealest1,
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- Sep 5, 2000
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I think you have pretty good proof. Gotta escalate that matter further and send them these pics, and if they don’t resolve it, take it to social media. My buddy got sent some fake AJ1s and StockX wouldn’t even respond to him. Took it to Twitter and IG and he got a response within a day to send the shoes back for an exchange.Here is a semi comparison. My “official” pair came in.
As you can see, the factory is “LN4”
The toe box being super slanted definitely makes these look superior.
Here is the comparisons.. Night and day…
The leather on the LN4 pair feels different too.
aceofjays
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- Apr 18, 2005
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Beat me to itSZ factory still using the 2019 shape.
- Apr 30, 2011
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The matte black look has always been pretty unique to this shoe. Even the metallic 5’s, IR 6’s, charcoal 7’s, playoff 8’s all draw heavily off the success of that exact aesthetic and its popularity. None of which are executed as well as the IV.
This turned out to be a really good retro, but personally I don’t consider it the same shoe and it doesn’t convey the same design mindset to me. This is a side shoe to me. A very nice one at that.
- Jan 4, 2014
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Factorytalk.com in here
aceofjays
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- Apr 18, 2005
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A few more “bad” SZ joints, and everyone who’s goin resale is gonna start the “eBay is better because you can see the shoe beforehand.” talk lolFactorytalk.com in here
- Dec 15, 2023
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SOTY sucks if you dont own a pair
rainking
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- Aug 12, 2016
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I wish my two pairs had that extra-extreme slant, but they're solid. I think the reality is, once you really start wearing them and the toe boxes start getting flexed and creased, it's probably unlikely they can retain the slant to that extent, anyway.
- Jul 19, 2013
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this sounds like someone that is trying to convince themselves that things will be okay
- Apr 30, 2011
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Good shoe trees go a long way. Toss in another insole and unless you’re wearing these daily for weeks in a row they’ll retain shape very well.
- Jul 30, 2012
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The shoe looks doofy in the leather. Makes it look big and stiff (that's what she said).
I'm not sure why people have to convince themselves something is better just so they can keep spending money. I think we can all agree it's pretty obvious this isn't better than the OG. That's not to say you can't like it, there's tons of crap on the shelves these days. Just turn a logo backwards or make it look pre-worn and people will spend double. It's definitely a devolving marketplace right now.
This remastered line has been very nice to my wallet. There are still a few accurate OG releases I'd like to see them get to though, and it does pain me these are wasting space on the release schedule. We are still missing out on:
Grape V
Fire Red V
Black/Silver V
White/Infrared VI
Sport Blue VI
Black/Red VII
Charcoal IX
Steel X
Columbia X
Sacramento X
Columbia XI (coming - yay)
Taxi XII
Obsidian XII
Black pod XIII low
White/UNC XV
Flint XV
White/Royal XVII
Black/Red XVIII (yes the one from the countdown pack)
Any XXI
I'd also like another (but accurate):
Black/Red I
Black/Royal I
Black toe I
Red toe I
White/cement III
White/cement IV
White/Maroon VI
Olympic VII
Black/Red XII
Black/Red XIV
Also love it when they release old samples like some of the XIII's like the gray toes and black with red pods.
I'm not sure why people have to convince themselves something is better just so they can keep spending money. I think we can all agree it's pretty obvious this isn't better than the OG. That's not to say you can't like it, there's tons of crap on the shelves these days. Just turn a logo backwards or make it look pre-worn and people will spend double. It's definitely a devolving marketplace right now.
This remastered line has been very nice to my wallet. There are still a few accurate OG releases I'd like to see them get to though, and it does pain me these are wasting space on the release schedule. We are still missing out on:
Grape V
Fire Red V
Black/Silver V
White/Infrared VI
Sport Blue VI
Black/Red VII
Charcoal IX
Steel X
Columbia X
Sacramento X
Columbia XI (coming - yay)
Taxi XII
Obsidian XII
Black pod XIII low
White/UNC XV
Flint XV
White/Royal XVII
Black/Red XVIII (yes the one from the countdown pack)
Any XXI
I'd also like another (but accurate):
Black/Red I
Black/Royal I
Black toe I
Red toe I
White/cement III
White/cement IV
White/Maroon VI
Olympic VII
Black/Red XII
Black/Red XIV
Also love it when they release old samples like some of the XIII's like the gray toes and black with red pods.
- Aug 10, 2003
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I have to check the tags when I get home…I thought I would be mix and matching with the two pairs but nope one pair was better than the other…so will keep the inferior pair DS for now…
rainking
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- Aug 12, 2016
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Not at all, just being realistic ...
... but this is a good point, too.
- May 13, 2005
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i really have worn these for almost two weeks straight. still in love
rainking
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- Aug 12, 2016
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i really have worn these for almost two weeks straight. still in love
How do the toe slants look after all that?
- May 13, 2005
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just fine
- Apr 30, 2011
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Yeah I think the leather goes a long way for shape. My 2019’s creased across the toebox the first time I wore them and it was over
- Jun 17, 2015
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Got 2 pairs after some assistance. The SNKRS pair has more tumbled leather but the toes don’t match. It’s as if it wasn’t stretched over the last properly. It’s puffy.
My other pair has way less tumble, dents in the toe, but they have better toes.
My other pair has way less tumble, dents in the toe, but they have better toes.
- Jul 18, 2012
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I have flat feet and went up half size one on them. 4's are the only shoes I go half size up, fire red 2020, 2019 breds too. My 2016s WC I kept a true to size and fit snug.
- May 7, 2019
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Yea… I’m honestly a bit torn about what to do with my 2019s. Black Cement IV’s always been a top 2 Jordan for me and always wanted a Nike Air on the back pair so I was hyped when they finally did that then but after these right now, I’m not sure I’m gonna wear my 2019’s much at all if at all. I lowkey kinda wanna get rid of them but the only reason I want to keep them is because they’re the “original”, still feels like a bit of a waste though since i won’t wear them but it feels wrong to get rid of them.
- Sep 5, 2000
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Unless you’re hurting for money, just keep the 2019s. They’re a different shoe. Sure, the shape ain’t great, but it’s still an OG colorway.
- Jul 22, 2006
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I got rid of my 2019s. In the end, I basically paid $200 and change for 3 pairs of the reimagined
- May 17, 2004
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Wearing tf outta these
- Aug 9, 2012
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Definitely not better than OG. Definitely better than 2019 though, which differ more from the OGs than these do.
Also, are you referring to the Chicago 1s as “red toe”? First time seeing that as a nickname.
