I never said that and the evidence is undeniable to my point here. Horrible paper thin cardboard “nubuck” that immediately creased hard vs some softer, more suede like nubuck on the 2012’s that didn’t crease hard and with shoe trees retained shape pretty well. It’s a richer black color too.
Obviously NA and shape are better on the 2019, but as far as what shoe I’d want to put on the 2012 is better. That’s how bad 2019s are, and the SB and these made it clear as day. it’s a photo finish at the special Olympics for both of them cause they’re awful retros.
You’re gonna tell another man which shoe felt better on his feet though?