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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Thats thing he can;t reach it, peak production is more important that longevity and as it stands Kobe Bryant has never, being Kobe Bryant for 10 years doesn't make him that much better than if he did it for 13. The fact is he has never at any point in his life been as good at the game of basketball as the players I mentioned he has no three year stretch that I think really touches those guys, he is close but not that close.Originally Posted by Mamba MVP
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
I don't even believe Jordan is necessarily the best ever, in the end once you reach the level Magic, Jordan, Shaq, Kareem, Wilt, Russel reached what separates one from another become so small.
And that's the perfect word "reachED". Kobe still has at least 3 or 4 more productive years ahead of him and who's to say that his resume' by then won't be comparable to all the other greats. He's most likely going to finish top 3 all time in scoring (just under 7,000 pts away from passing MJ for 3rd), already is the Lakers all-time leading scorer and has a team that could win a few more championships and Finals MVPs.
When he finally hangs up the Nikes then maybe the discussion will become more relevant in regards to his all-time greatness.
Wait what? Now you're not making any sense...you got some PER or some stats when the sun was in the sky for only 6 hours to throw out. Cause him '05-'08 (in which he avg 32 ppg, 6 rpg and 5 apg (which I guess you would call his peak) were something special and comparable to any of those people, and don't even bring up titles cause Wilt didn't win one until he was well past his prime.
And since when does longevity not count? He's consistently been a top 3 player for over a decade now, something that everyone on that list can say. You've had guys like T-Mac, AI, VC, KG who were great at points in their careers others who's numbers have all declined while KB is still playing at an All-NBA 1st team level.