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“**** him AND them! Let me get what I want!”
Kanye West: King of the Sunken Place, "Watch the Throne"
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in the long run this is prob good, I hope this forces Kanye to get help.
but man
It's really really really unfortunate, that the most famous black american genius billionaire.
is mentally ill and the in the grip of brain rot conspiracy theories.
but man
It's really really really unfortunate, that the most famous black american genius billionaire.
is mentally ill and the in the grip of brain rot conspiracy theories.
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Yeah I agree it is sad that Ye is going out like this. I am disgusted at his words, and think that he deserves to lose these business opportunities but I really wish this was not happening.
That is why it is ultra nasty what Candace Owens is doing.
A balck women allied with white racist plotted to use a mentally ill black man to further a racist grift and in the process pushed him into actions to destroy his wealth. Next level evil
If there is an afterlife, I dunno where you send people like Owens. Hell just seems like it is too good for her.
MakeNTGreatAgain
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can't blame owens
ye did this to himself
ye did this to himself
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im usually pretty unbothered by bad people doing bad things.
but man, Candace Owens really sickens me.
I wouldn't spit on her if she was on fire.
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this assumes im seeking to assign blame.
what she is doing is just objectively evil. regardless of her level of "blame"
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Of course Ye is ultimately responsible for his actions. He earned what is coming to him. He has to be held accountable. And that is happening.
But his mental health issues on top of his regular personality flaws made him the perfect mark for Owens and Kushner.
If would be one thing if they just made him repeat conservative talking points
But they went way further
They filled his head with conspiracy theories, racist nonsense about balck people, got him to be involved in an illegal campaign for president, encouraged him to sabotage his business dealings, and invest in a BS social media platform.
They do not care for dude. They encouraging dude to burn his life down so they can profit off of it. They don't what dude in a good mental state because that might make it more likely he realizes how he is being used. It is disgusting.
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the quality of troll on nt has substantially deterioated. what the hell happened?
RustyShackleford
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Stop calling him mentally ill or a genius.
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Honest question: to the people who think Kanye needs help to correct this behavior, do you guys not remember when Kanye first got into the spotlight and would make “controversial” comments AGAINST racism? Nobody wanted him to get help back then. He could’ve dropped 9484847 more tirades against George Bush and no one other than racists would’ve ever told him to shut his mouth.
You have to accept that either
A) that whole thing was an act to appeal to both mainstream and underground hip hop fans at a time when you mostly heard things like Ying Yang Twins on the radio (completely possible; I remember a lot of people who hated mainstream hip hop loved Kanye and bought his albums because of his content)
Or
B) his views changed radically over time due to his bitterness and being called out for his poor behavior, especially when he started doubling down on being an @&$ after the Taylor Swift incident.
You have to accept that either
A) that whole thing was an act to appeal to both mainstream and underground hip hop fans at a time when you mostly heard things like Ying Yang Twins on the radio (completely possible; I remember a lot of people who hated mainstream hip hop loved Kanye and bought his albums because of his content)
Or
B) his views changed radically over time due to his bitterness and being called out for his poor behavior, especially when he started doubling down on being an @&$ after the Taylor Swift incident.
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He’s not a genius, he’s made this quite clear over the years.
Mentioning that he’s mentally ill sounds like an excuse. A lot of us are. We don’t have the money or resources he has. It’s been years of this, I’m good.
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again this thing where once someone is bad we need to alter reality so that they were always bad.
If you are the defining artist of an entire epoch of popular music.
and then you go on to generate billions of dollars of value by new creating consumer products
congrats you are a genius, full stop.
Maybe he's an anti semetic genius, there are lots of those in american history.
that's a you problem. he does have a mental illness, this is fact.
it doesn't mean he's not responsible for his actions.
what level of culpability you want to give his actions is up to you to decide.
it's not a court of law. its not an insanity defense.
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So Kylie Jenner is a genius by your definition? Every billionaire is.
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Hitler is a genius by your definition.
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did i say that?
lot's of billionaires, not everyone is a genius.
Kanye is basically like if paul mccartney was also steve jobs.
the level of creative output in multiple fields makes him an insane outlier.
I don't what you call that other than "genius".
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“Highly creative”, and that’s debatable.
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is he? what do you think my definition is?
WASHED KING
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That’s a HoF level reach.
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I think you guys are using genius as a positive status marker
versus just a neutral descriptive statement.
versus just a neutral descriptive statement.
WASHED KING
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I think Kanye qualifies. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t do and say stupid things however.
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computersputin
Is loving being able to "legally" bash a black man with no public pushback. Enjoy your time man. Enjoy your time.
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it really isn't.
ol boy was on an anti semitism media tour
and billion dollar companies waited till the very last second to drop him.
if kanye wasn't an extreme rare creative force, they would have dropped him in 1 business day.
WASHED KING
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Are you implying some users are using this situation as a smokescreen to let off takes with racial undertones in them?
computersputin
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what a cornball take
