Kanye West: King of the Sunken Place, "Watch the Throne"

[RustyShackleford]

People bought Jordan's because of Jordan.

People bought Yeezy's because of Kanye.

I aint even know who TInker Hatfield was when I was a kid

Wasnt nobody checkin for the new Tinkers Fam.

Regardless...Contracts.

Nike releases Garnetts with KG's name on it

Adidas been releasing Kobes sigs without his name on them

Either way. I don't see Ye been done particularly dirty.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Tinker never had a line of shoes branded as “Air Tinkers” though, he was just a designer for projects that Nike was already initiating

That’s not the case here lol

Depending on what silhouette comes next for Ye it will be interesting to see if the ADZY’s work. People gonna want the foam runners and **** like 350/700’s regardless but if Ye still has a strong design team he may be able to drop some **** that makes people feel like the adidas joints ain’t the “real” Yeezys no more .

Ye probably didn't design the Yeezys though

 

[6pac]

Apparently Ye's name does not appear on the parents either. An Adidas VP, which probably means Ye wasn't a chief designer...

Adidas may owe Kanye West royalties for months to come: lawyers | Fortune

When was Adidas' last royalty payment to Ye?

www.google.com

So they are probably not his designs, he licensed his name to Adidas. With Adidas doing the heavy lifting. The clothing seems like is Ye's.

At most it was probably the same setup with Nike with an actual designer doing the heavy lifting and Ye approving the final designs.

So if this is the case I don't really see anything dirty with Adidas releasing shoes they developed without Ye's name on them.

I think it was in the Netflix doc where he was going thru and making revisions to **** they did though. It’s like Steve Jobs and the iPhone except there wasn’t another company over Jobs. Word to Sway not having the answers lol

 

[dblplay1212]

Tinker never had a line of shoes branded as “Air Tinkers” though, he was just a designer for projects that Nike was already initiating

That’s not the case here lol

Depending on what silhouette comes next for Ye it will be interesting to see if the ADZY’s work. People gonna want the foam runners and **** like 350/700’s regardless but if Ye still has a strong design team he may be able to drop some **** that makes people feel like the adidas joints ain’t the “real” Yeezys no more .

This whole thing will be interesting to see how it plays out. Will people still buy non-Yeezy 350s? Idk, maybe? Can Kanye partner with a factory in Asia to make his own shoes? Maybe? I think that's a disaster waiting to happen but I'd love to watch it play out. It's interesting to me bc so many people claimed they wore Yeezys bc they were so comfy and not bc of Kanye or the hype so now we get to find out lol

 

[RustyShackleford]

I think it was in the Netflix doc where he was going thru and making revisions to **** they did though. It’s like Steve Jobs and the iPhone except there wasn’t another company over Jobs. Word to Sway not having the answers lol

Using Steve Jobs as an example is a terrible example to say Adidas is doing him dirty.

Apple got rid of Jobs at one point and still released products he worked on.

Apple doesn't pay royalties to Jobs family from my knowledge.

And Jobs was an Apple employee. Ye isn't an Adidas employee. So he had more leverage to attain lifetime royalties if they really are his designs

Only person screwing over Ye is himself

 

[Present]

so kanye west designed yeezys?

Ye probably didn't design the Yeezys though

 

[Sumrndmdude!]

He discussed it in his interview. Don’t remember which one.

Furthermore Revelations 2:9 is relevant because Ye is watching his empire crumble in front of him from which he perceives to be by the Synagogue of Satan. Some would even say this belief is fueling his manic behavior.

One side is right and one side is wrong. Simple as that. A historical sit down with both sides top scholars would end the conversation for good. There’s no reason I can think of that the ADL shouldln’t want to sit down and have this conversation. Plenty of people have been brought to Holocaust museums and things of the similar ilk when they mistakenly made anti-semitic comments.

As a spectator I have to admit it would be a bad look if something were to come forth definitively demonstrating that the Modern Jew is not the historical Hebrew written of in the book. The historical implications alone would bring it’s own controversies. Within the context of the Abrahamic faiths I’m not sure how that would be salvaged.

Lol. Thats terrible logic.

Show me a black israelite, modern israelite, nyc jew, 'corporate jew'who's sacrificing sheep and cattle at the temple in Jerusalem.

This is not what this is about. Nice try tho.

Why should the ADL have to sit down and explain a christian text targeted to a specific congregation/synagogue in th 100 c.e. to address an issue about music and fashion contracts in 2022 america.

That parallel is both insulting to the text you or anyone are refering to, snd completely misses it's purpose.

 

[RustyShackleford]

What is this supposed to get from this?

A person at a different company is saying Kayne didn't design his shoes with them either.

 

[Present]

What is this supposed to get from this?

A person at a different company is saying Kayne didn't design his shoes with them either.

Don't hold me to account for what "you're supposed to get" or not get Fam.

She said what she said.

Pretty easy to understand that he was part of the design process, but that's just me.

 

[noblekane]

sorry i dont support sole collector what are they saying?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Don't hold me to account for what "you're supposed to get" or not get Fam.

She said what she said.

Pretty easy to understand that he was part of the design process, but that's just me.

This is silly

Being part of the design process is not the same as being the main designers of the shoe.

Michael Jordan told Tinker to take the toe cap of the 6s and 10s. Yet, everyone rightfully credits those shoes designs to Tinker

Chapelle didn't write the Chapelle show by himself

If you want to move the most post here, cool. But now your argument it that Ye is being done dirty by Adidas not because he designed the Adidas Yeezys, but because he was part of the process along the way. Yeah, so where other people.

Because look at what you posted...

I suppose it depends on the contract they signed - like Chappelle said.

Taking his artistic designs and scratching his name off defeats the whole purpose.

A Yeezy by any other name is still the same. Pay that man.

How does increasing their profits by no longer paying Ye for his work = support for Jewish folks / fighting anti-Semitism?

Is it smart on Adidas part? Sure.

Is it legal? Depends on the contract.

Is it dirty. Definitely.

Just goes to show - The business of business is business.

This doesn't read like you are saying he is just part of the design. You call them his artistic designs. Which clearly implies he designed the shoes. Which he most likely didn't.

Adidas owes the man his licensing fees. For things already sold under this name. Other than that, seems like he has been fairly compensated.

 

[RustyShackleford]

sorry i dont support sole collector what are they saying?

Kanye didn't directly design the Nike Yeezys.

He told the designers what kind of shoe he wanted, they made a shoe based on that, and he liked them.

That is basically it.

 

[6pac]

 

[pmatic]

 

[WASHED KING]

Kanye’s shoes with adidas already had minimal yeezy branding

How much brand removal do they have to do after switching up the boxes?

A few YZY tags? What are they going to call the shoes instead? I’m interested to see if they still sell.

 

[Present]

The terms of the contract determine who gets to claim ownership, has nothing to do with who actually designed the shoe.

Both designers said the designs were a collaborative effort and Ye was heavily involved in the design process.

Just because Adidas owns the design doesn't mean Ye had nothing to do with designing the shoes.

IJS as long as they are selling the shoes (name or not) - if he was getting a percentage then he should still be getting a percentage.

Hopefully he was smart and structured his deal in such a way.

Anyways - Adidas has to do what's in the best interest of their shareholders.

Adidas sells tons of shoes that have nothing to do with Ye so it will be really interesting how this plays out.

 

[Based Jesus]

The shoes are ugly which is how you know Kanye was involved in the design

 

[RustyShackleford]

The terms of the contract determine who gets to claim ownership, has nothing to do with who actually designed the shoe.

Both designers said the designs were a collaborative effort and Ye was heavily involved in the design process.

Just because Adidas owns the design doesn't mean Ye had nothing to do with designing the shoes.

IJS as long as they are selling the shoes (name or not) - if he was getting a percentage then he should still be getting a percentage.

Hopefully he was smart and structured his deal in such a way.

Anyways - Adidas has to do what's in the best interest of their shareholders.

Adidas sells tons of shoes that have nothing to do with Ye so it will be really interesting how this plays out.

No one really made that argument though

 

[Present]

No one really made that argument though

What argument?

Folks claiming Kanye didn't design the shoes.

I simply posted what the people themselves said.

No argument at all.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Adidas was clearly looking for a way to keep this going.
Kanye just made it impossible.


The only one being done dirty is Adidas really, if dude keeps his mouth shut
they would have continued to make billions of dollars.

this is a massive L for adidas,
re-releasing is the best thing they can do salvage it.


but ultimately im sure theyd much rather have Kanye leading the development of Yeezy products.

 

[RustyShackleford]

What argument?

That Kanye had nothing to do with the designing the Yeezys

 

[C.Magneto]

Lol. Thats terrible logic.

Show me a black israelite, modern israelite, nyc jew, 'corporate jew'who's sacrificing sheep and cattle at the temple in Jerusalem.

This is not what this is about. Nice try tho.

Why should the ADL have to sit down and explain a christian text targeted to a specific congregation/synagogue in th 100 c.e. to address an issue about music and fashion contracts in 2022 america.

That parallel is both insulting to the text you or anyone are refering to, snd completely misses it's purpose.

Have you been in Brooklyn during/after Yomkipur? Animals slaughtered everywhere.
This also still happens in Israel as well.
The practices of Ancient Hebrews are very much well and alive within the tradition today. It’s under the context of ancient prophecy that the land and state of Israel exists how it does today.

I ask my Hindu friends about the caste system. I ask my Muslim friends about Sarah 53:49 and Astrology being shirk. I ask my Candomblé/Umbanda homies about animal sacrifice. This is no different.

That parallel is both insulting to the text you or anyone are refering to, snd completely misses it's purpose

I can rock with that. What is the purpose of that text, and independent of the Kanye situation, who and what is it referring to?

 

[Sumrndmdude!]

Why are people mad that Kanye doesnt sketch up every yeezy?

It's not like Ralph Designs his whole collection by hand.

 

[dblplay1212]

The terms of the contract determine who gets to claim ownership, has nothing to do with who actually designed the shoe.

Both designers said the designs were a collaborative effort and Ye was heavily involved in the design process.

Just because Adidas owns the design doesn't mean Ye had nothing to do with designing the shoes.

IJS as long as they are selling the shoes (name or not) - if he was getting a percentage then he should still be getting a percentage.

Hopefully he was smart and structured his deal in such a way.

Anyways - Adidas has to do what's in the best interest of their shareholders.

Adidas sells tons of shoes that have nothing to do with Ye so it will be really interesting how this plays out.

He got a % when he was a brand ambassador. He doesn't get that forever. They dropped him. He didn't structure the deal that way bc no company would give that. Nike could make the Yeezy 2's tomorrow and give him the finger. Nothing he can do about it. Charles Barkley isn't getting paid for CB 94's. Peter Moore didn't get paid for every paid of AJ1 until hi death. That's not how it works. Kanye was part of a design process and he was the brand ambassador. He's not anymore, so he's not getting paid on it. The contract details are known.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I got a distant cousin back in Lucia. He is a hot head. To the point he couldn't keep a job and started working with his mom being a street vendor.

It was a decent enough arrangement, they made enough to live a simple life.

Every New Year's holiday the is a four day fair in Lucia. It is a massive event. Street vendors make as much money in those four days that they do in months.

His mom looked forward to it every year. She made a killing selling street food normally, but doing it while putting up with my cousin was hell for her.

He was a Rasta, and used to start fights with vendors that sold ribs near their stall. Because "swine ain't ital". He would constantly yell at cops because he don't want "Babylon" around him. For years they would get kicked out on the first day.

Tons of money lost because my cousin could keep his mouth shut while his mother would plead with him to stop. He got so bad he cost them their license to sell in the city market.

His mom is Adidas and Ye is my cousin Gavin, if selling bbq chicken, tamarind balls, and sea grape jam were a multi billion dollar enterprise.