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Gay people wanting to be married is the same as Jim crow laws??? Get the hell out here with that mess. . .Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]The hypocrisy of black people voting for this ban.......[/color]
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Gay people wanting to be married is the same as Jim crow laws??? Get the hell out here with that mess. . .Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]The hypocrisy of black people voting for this ban.......[/color]
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
I'm not saying black people are responsible for it, I'm saying it's kinda messed up that they voted against it. That's all.Originally Posted by Peteweezy
I would have voted for gay marriages being allowed but don't try the whole black people thing. If you say everybody cool but trying to single out somebody never turns out well.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]The hypocrisy of black people voting for this ban.......[/color]
I'm black and this argument hit close to home because I love white women and women of all races and I can't imagine a time when peopleweren't allowed by law to get married because of their race. I agree that what black have had to endure is leaps and bounds more harsh than what gays gothrough to today.Originally Posted by BasirWaahid
Gay people wanting to be married is the same as Jim crow laws??? Get the hell out here with that mess. . .Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]The hypocrisy of black people voting for this ban.......[/color]. That's what I hate about most about the Gay Community, your struggle of being accepted for your sexual preference is no way near the struggle of ME just being accepted. . PERIOD!!!!!!! Stop comparing your struggle to those of black community because you're movement is far from it. And I disagree with everything Oberman said.
And where does it say that the animal kingdom didn't "chose" to perform acts of bisexuality, be it dominance of others or whateverit may be? Furthermore how can it be proven? And where did I say homosexuality should be forbidden? I do appreciate your use of wikipedia as a sourcethough. And where in the animal kingdom does marriage exist? It is a human social construct developed within society. California society just said marriageis between a man and woman.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by 8tothe24
And you are ready to provide proof that it isn't a "lifestyle" choice? See how easy that was. Doesn't believe what NT majority does, so that makes him wrong. Hmmm... sounds familiar.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Clearly you have scientific qualifications to make a decision on whether homosexuality is a "lifestyle" or not. I made my point, it's now up to you to digest it. Just as the ideology of homosexuality being perceived as a lifestyle choice is used as an excuse not to give these people an equal right to happiness; during slavery times black where perceived as less than human and were therefore not entitled to basic human rights and were treated like animals.Originally Posted by 916JORDANboy
possibly I am ignorant. please explain it to me.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Sry about the run-on sentence.
It exists in nature:
Homosexual, as well as bisexual, behavior is widespread in the animal kingdom. Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species and the motivations for and implications of their behaviors have yet to be fully understood as most species have yet to be studied.[sup][3][/sup] A 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[sup][4][/sup][sup][5][/sup]
If you ask any gay person if they believe they can "Snap" out of it, their answer is no. So you mean to tell me every gay person out there are lying?
Now can you give me any evidence to the contrary? Aside from God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve and mommy and daddy told me Lucifer was gay.
Originally Posted by Pushak513
Im glad there are so many people in the world who think like I do. makes me have some hope in ruff times. Keith told 100% truth in that whole piece. He's the only news I ever watch. Gay people are the same as any other minority people dont agree with in the world. the majority (Christan) say its wrong for them to marry and most people go with the majority, besides us free thinking liberals. there really not hurting anyone so leave em alone. I would dare say a gay marriage would last longer in these days than a regular marriage would. Let them do them and keep it moving. there not forcing or campaigning for everyone to be gay there just wantin to be equal and thats fine with me.
Theres a movie commin out soon Bout a guy last name Milk (name of the movie 2) bout the first gay mayor or somthin and i think that was in California. Odd to see what it has become
LOL how many times will should I say I'm not blaming black people for the law being passed.......but Iam singling out black people because as a black man I'm appalled and disappointed that any black person would vote for that law to be passed. I'll askit again what makes these people any less entitled to this basic right than any other citizen? And I need a better argument than "a man woke up andconsciously decided to have sex with another man he wasn't sexually attracted to cause he was fascinated by the lifestyle".Originally Posted by TkTheGirl
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
I'm not saying black people are responsible for it, I'm saying it's kinda messed up that they voted against it. That's all.Originally Posted by Peteweezy
I would have voted for gay marriages being allowed but don't try the whole black people thing. If you say everybody cool but trying to single out somebody never turns out well.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]The hypocrisy of black people voting for this ban.......[/color]
Are you seriously basing that argument off an exit poll that consisted of 224 black people? When the hell did the black community and the gay community sign a damn pact? Like mentioned stop singling out one group of people cause the #+!! is getting old real quick. Every $@%+*$* time something doesn't go the way people didn't want it to go #+!! is magically blamed on black people. I wish I did have the power people constantly given to me because of my skin color. The +%%$ out of here.
LOL I don't think I need to get on Lexis Nexis to get that....it's been documented look it up yourself.Originally Posted by 8tothe24
And where does it say that the animal kingdom didn't "chose" to perform acts of bisexuality, be it dominance of others or whatever it may be? Furthermore how can it be proven? And where did I say homosexuality should be forbidden? I do appreciate your use of wikipedia as a source though. And where in the animal kingdom does marriage exist? It is a human social construct developed within society. California society just said marriage is between a man and woman.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by 8tothe24
And you are ready to provide proof that it isn't a "lifestyle" choice? See how easy that was. Doesn't believe what NT majority does, so that makes him wrong. Hmmm... sounds familiar.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Clearly you have scientific qualifications to make a decision on whether homosexuality is a "lifestyle" or not. I made my point, it's now up to you to digest it. Just as the ideology of homosexuality being perceived as a lifestyle choice is used as an excuse not to give these people an equal right to happiness; during slavery times black where perceived as less than human and were therefore not entitled to basic human rights and were treated like animals.Originally Posted by 916JORDANboy
possibly I am ignorant. please explain it to me.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Sry about the run-on sentence.
It exists in nature:
Homosexual, as well as bisexual, behavior is widespread in the animal kingdom. Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species and the motivations for and implications of their behaviors have yet to be fully understood as most species have yet to be studied.[sup][3][/sup] A 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[sup][4][/sup][sup][5][/sup]
If you ask any gay person if they believe they can "Snap" out of it, their answer is no. So you mean to tell me every gay person out there are lying?
Now can you give me any evidence to the contrary? Aside from God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve and mommy and daddy told me Lucifer was gay.
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
LOL I don't think I need to get on Lexis Nexis to get that....it's been documented look it up yourself.Originally Posted by 8tothe24
And where does it say that the animal kingdom didn't "chose" to perform acts of bisexuality, be it dominance of others or whatever it may be? Furthermore how can it be proven? And where did I say homosexuality should be forbidden? I do appreciate your use of wikipedia as a source though. And where in the animal kingdom does marriage exist? It is a human social construct developed within society. California society just said marriage is between a man and woman.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by 8tothe24
And you are ready to provide proof that it isn't a "lifestyle" choice? See how easy that was. Doesn't believe what NT majority does, so that makes him wrong. Hmmm... sounds familiar.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Clearly you have scientific qualifications to make a decision on whether homosexuality is a "lifestyle" or not. I made my point, it's now up to you to digest it. Just as the ideology of homosexuality being perceived as a lifestyle choice is used as an excuse not to give these people an equal right to happiness; during slavery times black where perceived as less than human and were therefore not entitled to basic human rights and were treated like animals.Originally Posted by 916JORDANboy
possibly I am ignorant. please explain it to me.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Sry about the run-on sentence.
It exists in nature:
Homosexual, as well as bisexual, behavior is widespread in the animal kingdom. Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species and the motivations for and implications of their behaviors have yet to be fully understood as most species have yet to be studied.[sup][3][/sup] A 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[sup][4][/sup][sup][5][/sup]
If you ask any gay person if they believe they can "Snap" out of it, their answer is no. So you mean to tell me every gay person out there are lying?
Now can you give me any evidence to the contrary? Aside from God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve and mommy and daddy told me Lucifer was gay.
1. The wikipedia bibliography has links to the sources, look them up yourself. Homosexual acts in nature has been well-documented.
here's the full article with sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behaviorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w...aying_homosexual_behavior
The fact that it has been documented is a diversity of species from fish, to mammals to birds mean there is a genetic component and a reason for its preservation in nature.
2. Marriage does not exist in nature but monogamous relationships do....I'm not sure why u brought this up we were arguing about whether homosexuality was a "lifestyle choice".
3. You haven't given me any evidence to the contrary. Why is it a lifestyle? What are the motivations for choosing to sleep with a man as a "lifestyle"?
4. You haven't answered my question as to whether all gay people are lying about "not being able to help it". There is obviously some natural compulsion for gay people to be sexually attracted to the same sex. I don't see any benefits in wanting to consciously make a decision although you're attracted to females, to want to have sex with a man and marry him.
Elaborate on this lifestyle argument...please. I'm not even sure what it means.
Originally Posted by KICKS OFF
@ another Keith Olbermann exploitation for ratings rant. why didn't he cry for help for the gays during the election?...
Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell
What a little cry baby. Maybe I should get on TV and get all misty eyed over my right to bear arms being slowly taken away. Maybe I'll cry a little over my hunting and fishing right slowly disappearing. It's taking away my happiness and my rights, and I was as much born liking guns, hunting, and fishing as much as gays are. Oh wait...forgot all that makes me evil and unlikable by all. People suck.
This is the 2nd time you've used your friends as an example and I'm just as perplexed. So you've never heard of bisexuality whereyou're from?Originally Posted by TkTheGirl
The black people did vote voted because they don't equate the discrimination they receive from their skin color to discrimination you receive from your sexual preference when they find out what your sexual preference is. The no to prop 8 campaign failed miserably trying to reach out to any community they weren't comfortable near. As I stated before the California Gay community shown was mostly white and asian I don't see how they would even think that the black and hispanic community would see this as their problem.
Not only that there are people out their who don't equate the gay lifestyle as a death sentence of a lifestyle. I personally know two older women who dated women for 10 years or more and after they broke up went back to men with no hesitation. They happen to fall in love with those women.
There is a combination of both people who choose to be with the same sex person and those who who felt it was natural from the beginning.
Originally Posted by WinstonDon
noOriginally Posted by HarlemToTheBronx
Originally Posted by MrBen23
Is Keith gay? I seriously don't know.
Can't someone defend gays and not be gay?
Edit: #1, for clarification their is no evidence that homosexuality is genetic. These are opinions of researchers and just as many researchers argue the opposite.
There is strong evidence to support the theory that homosexuality is biological. I've never heard ofany credible researcher who denies this.
Sine, cosine, and tangent.Originally Posted by eNPHAN
sigh....all these posts turn into the same argument.
Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick
This is the 2nd time you've used your friends as an example and I'm just as perplexed. So you've never heard of bisexuality where you're from?Originally Posted by TkTheGirl
The black people did vote voted because they don't equate the discrimination they receive from their skin color to discrimination you receive from your sexual preference when they find out what your sexual preference is. The no to prop 8 campaign failed miserably trying to reach out to any community they weren't comfortable near. As I stated before the California Gay community shown was mostly white and asian I don't see how they would even think that the black and hispanic community would see this as their problem.
Not only that there are people out their who don't equate the gay lifestyle as a death sentence of a lifestyle. I personally know two older women who dated women for 10 years or more and after they broke up went back to men with no hesitation. They happen to fall in love with those women.
There is a combination of both people who choose to be with the same sex person and those who who felt it was natural from the beginning.