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Frank was non-confrontational and valued the locker room politics too much to bench Brick permanently.

Vogel was soft and couldn't command the locker room, that's the bottom line imo

I guess both of you are glossing over the fact that folks like Kurt Rambis were in coaching meetings and had in influence in what Frank did.

Articles came out stating that Hamm wouldn't have to worry about this nonsense.

Frank had some flaws....but he also wasn't given a fair shot. Let's be real about that....
 
I guess both of you are glossing over the fact that folks like Kurt Rambis were in coaching meetings and had in influence in what Frank did.

Articles came out stating that Hamm wouldn't have to worry about this nonsense.

Frank had some flaws....but he also wasn't given a fair shot. Let's be real about that....
Agreed. Rambis set him up to be the fall guy for, I'm sure, a multitude of reasons.

Maybe Rambis got word early that Westbrook and Vogel weren't seeing eye to eye early on in the season. Everything went downhill from there, coupled by the injuries to Bron and AD.

Either way Rambis should be staying out of the coach's way and not be meddling in the practices.
 
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