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They hit on all those picks for the most part and it was leading no where until Bron showed up. We were in the wilderness for five years, I want to not go back.Eh, for the most part the organization has been able to draft really well. The younger Buss' are good. And for the most part outside of JHS and I guess Zo they've hit on a lotta picks.
Well you're definitely not living in reality, there not selling their cash cow.
I know. Hence, my frustration.
They aren't about truly competing, they are about interest/revenue.
I'll "settle" for a new GM. If that can happen, I'll ease off Jeanie. Kobe's agent ain't it.
I can't say they haven't been about competing because they did mortgage the future for AD and also try to retool on multiple occasions. Some of the moves, most notably the Russ one didn't work out. They tried to get Kyrie and they're going to try to get another star in this summer, hopefully Donovan and basically pull an AD part duex if it works out.
Them not trying to stop gap it and make moves just because ala this past trade deadline just because Bron and Klutch wanted them too was showing some restraint and looking at the bigger picture.
We have a 40 year old megastar and another really elite player that's not quite a number one option and they'll again hook or crook try to supplement them in someway to take another crack at it. That's just where we are and the rest of the league like always isn't going to do us any favors. The Laker tax will always be a factor.
They hit on all those picks for the most part and it was leading no where until Bron showed up. We were in the wilderness for five years, I want to not go back.
It’s more about who we didn’t draft, not who we drafted. Hindsight is 20/20 of course
But we really past on a lot of franchise changing players, and got unlucky in some cases where we were a draft pick position away from a generational player
Every #2 pick became a role player or fringe all star smh
And they all would have been in New Orleans pretty much regardless the moment Bron decided to sign anyway.
Wish we could know what it looked like if they signed Bron but kept building.
Like no giving up on Randle/Brooke Lopez.
#4 pick coulda been Garland.
Zo/Garland/Caruso
KCP/Hart
Bron/Ingram
Randle/Kuz
Zubac/Lopez
And we'd still have literally all our picks, every year to work with.
Outside of Zo (and maybe he doesn't get hurt, but even if he did) that's a pretty damn strong 10 man roster + whatever picks/MLE's they could add on with.
Maybe AD signs straight up the next year anyways. (Or Kawhi I suppose)
Not sure everyone woulda found their role or not, of course, but woulda been interesting as hell.
People want this to be true so bad.So the franchise is basically being ran by Bron/AD/Klutch?
There's a longer list of the Lakers telling Lebron no (or trying to prove that he doesn't run things) than there is a list of them cratering in to his every demand.
Let's see your list of people THAT YOU CAN PROVE are cowering to him.I'd love to see that list. Please.
Off the top of my head, what Lebron wanted but didn't get...I'd love to see that list. Please.
Let's see your list of people THAT YOU CAN PROVE are cowering to him.
Start there.
Gonna be a lot of "Well remember that time when clearly Bron wanted this to happen (no proof; just assumption), but management wanted this OTHER thing to happen (no proof; just assumption), and then the thing that we all knew Bron wanted to happen happened? Or am I just making that up?"Don't do that....
You know it will NEVER happen.
Let's see your list of people THAT YOU CAN PROVE are cowering to him.
Start there.
Off the top of my head, what Lebron wanted but didn't get...
Kyrie
T Lue
DeRozan
Caruso re-signed
Trading DLo
Trading Westbrook during the offseason
What Lebron got....
AD
3rd star (Westbrook... and since that was the pivot after DDR, I don't think that was Lebron's 1st choice but rather he just signed off on it)
I really hate the NT experience on my phone… too many times I type a reply the page refreshes and it’s gone smh.They tried to get Kyrie. Brook rejected us, no?
They offered Lue a contract. He rejected us. (Lowball offer was the report)
Bron/AD met with and recruited Russ. Wasn't that all up and thru this thread? Dinner's and photos and such. Those things didn't happen?
I agree on Caruso not being resigned. I can't see Bron/AD buying off on that.
DDR was because of Russ, right?
And I'm not sure how them trading for Russ, then not trading him the very next offseason gives either side a win. It makes both sides look horrible. So maybe half a point each.
The Hawks wanted multiple picks for Murray, so I give you the DLo one.
Did Bron/AD want Vogel or Ham kept?
How many Klutch players have we brought in after Bron? (KCP doesn't count since he was pre-Bron)
How many extensions have they been given, 3-4? (Another one looking)
They have no say in this next coaching hire?
How many future draft picks have been spent? (and we may not be done yet)
I don't know what the Bronny part of the equation will or won't be. We'll see pretty soon.
Again, neither of us can prove one way or another, all based on reports and how things shake out.WRT to Kyrie and Lue… lowball offers don’t really show a serious effort to get a deal done.
Think D'lo is a lock for Orlando. There's a chance he could get traded for Wendell Carter and free the Magic to pursue someone like Claxton. Which would take the Nets out of the Mitchell race