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**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins
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- Sep 5, 2010
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Kuz is AWFUL.
- Sep 5, 2010
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Feel like this is only the second or third blowout win the team has had this season, which speaks to how bad the Wizards are. 
- Feb 23, 2010
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Bronny is a meme at this point lol, set up to fail
- Apr 5, 2007
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Why is Bronny even in the NBA?
- Apr 24, 2006
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On pace for 46 wins, one fewer than last season
- Mar 20, 2017
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Savannah and her sweet cakes
- Jan 18, 2006
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That's interesting....seems like no matter who we surround Bron and AD with, we are getting close to the same results.
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darthska
Staff member
- Apr 30, 2004
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If you move Vincent, you plan on playin Bronny here pretty soon? Cuz.....
(And I'm not even a Vincent fan)
Nurk isn't good. Upgrade at C? Eh, maybe slightly but not enough to change anything.
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Ya the other guard options aren't great right now. But what's the difference between Gabe and a minimum guard like Devonte Graham or Markelle Fultz?
I don't think Nurk is good at all, but he's big and rebounds. And you would get off Vando's contract while getting a FRP back.
Ya the other guard options aren't great right now. But what's the difference between Gabe and a minimum guard like Devonte Graham or Markelle Fultz?
I don't think Nurk is good at all, but he's big and rebounds. And you would get off Vando's contract while getting a FRP back.
If you can flip that pick into a Guard, that might be somethin.
I still love the "idea" of Vando. The reality of Vando, not so much.
- Sep 5, 2010
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I thought teams couldn't put multiple minimum contracts in a trade, but it seems like I might be wrong.If you can flip that pick into a Guard, that might be somethin.
I still love the "idea" of Vando. The reality of Vando, not so much.
So technically instead of sending Gabe out, it could be a JHS+Wood+Hayes (or Reddish) combo to satisfy the money being send out.
- May 17, 2007
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- Jan 18, 2006
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Here we go
MIKE LOWERY
formerly chuck finster
- Mar 1, 2007
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I'd argue Nurkic = Val. So even with his higher salary, if their sending a 1st back, I'd do it.
- Jan 4, 2012
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Think Nurk is pretty average, but a good rebounder and a big body. What I will say is Nurk would ultimately help us with our kryptonite, Jokic. Jokic bullies majority of the league posting up and getting deep post position. Say what you will about Nurk, he's big as hell and won't get bullied so easily.Ya the other guard options aren't great right now. But what's the difference between Gabe and a minimum guard like Devonte Graham or Markelle Fultz?
I don't think Nurk is good at all, but he's big and rebounds. And you would get off Vando's contract while getting a FRP back.
I'm still a Vando truther though, but he's been injured forever.
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Here's what it says:
The Los Angeles Lakers (23-1
are sitting in a perilous position, currently just a game ahead of the Dallas Mavericks for sixth in the West, and the guaranteed playoff spot that comes with it. Their two cornerstones -- the 40-year-old LeBron James and Anthony Davis -- continue to perform at elite levels, both almost certain to make another All-Star Game appearance next month in San Francisco.
But with the Feb. 6 trade deadline a little more than two weeks away, league sources told ESPN that James and Davis are growing concerned about the Lakers' ability to make significant roster upgrades with their two tradeable first-rounders. James, a four-time champion, and Davis, a one-time champ, have expressed that they want the franchise to make moves to contend for a championship, with the co-stars believing the Lakers are potentially a piece or two away, sources said.
James and Lakers head coach J.J. Redick made some very telling comments after the team's road blowout loss to the LA Clippers on Sunday night.
"That's how our team is constructed, we don't have room for error," James said. "We don't have a choice. That's the way our team is constructed. We have to play close to perfect basketball."
The Lakers have been without Jarred Vanderbilt and Christian Wood, both expected to be key members of the rotation, all season.
"It just goes back to not having a huge margin for error and I think our group is like, if one guy is gone from the rotation, there's an exponential effect to that," Redick said. "When we're healthy, we're whole and we're playing connected and we execute, I think we're a great basketball team."
Just recently, Golden State Warriors star Stephen Curry -- in a similar position as James in the twilight years of his career -- took a different approach, professing patience with the direction of his team. He has been in constant communication with Warriors leadership, and though Golden State has probed for another star to pair with Curry and Draymond Green, the bigger names who might be available have not appealed to all parties.
"Desperate trades or desperate moves that deplete the future, there is a responsibility on allowing or keeping the franchise in a good space and good spot when it comes to where we leave this thing when we're done," Curry said. "Doesn't mean that you're not trying to get better. It doesn't mean that you're not active in any type of search to, if you have an opportunity where a trade makes sense or even in the summer free agency makes sense. You want to continue to get better.
"Nobody wants to be stale or be in a situation where you're passing up opportunities. But it doesn't mean that you're desperate just flinging assets all around the place just because you want to do something."
The Lakers have done their due diligence in gauging trade interest around the league, and are open to using their tradeable first-round picks for players who are a fit for this iteration of the Davis-James team as well as for several years to come under Redick, sources said. Los Angeles has already made one trade this season, sending D'Angelo Russell, Maxwell Lewis and three second-round picks to the Brooklyn Nets for Dorian Finney-Smith and Shake Milton. However, Finney-Smith is still working to find his rhythm, seeing his 3-point shooting drop from 43.5% to 36%, and Milton has essentially been out of the rotation over the past two weeks.
Still, the urgency remains for the Lakers, who won a championship in 2020 with James and Davis, but have won just two playoff series since (both in 2023). The Lakers currently have those two first-round picks (2029, 2031) and two second-round picks (2025, their own and the Clippers') available to be traded, in a league that is currently in the midst of its longest period of parity in decades.
"Boston, OKC and Cleveland are who they are," one high-ranking team official said in recent days. "But this is wide open."
L.A. has been in this position before in the James-Davis era. The Lakers were 27-25 heading into the deadline last season when the team failed to strike a deal, with vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka citing other organizations' disinterest by telling reporters, "You can't buy a house that's not for sale."
The Lakers also sat out the 2022 trade deadline, when the team was 26-30 in their first season with Russell Westbrook, and instead tapped into the waiver wire to try to give the team a boost down the stretch.
The Lakers' patience in 2022 paid off the following season, when Pelinka and the front office executed a series of moves -- including parting with Westbrook and his $46.3 million salary -- to remake the team. The new energy and additional talent acquired in Russell, Vanderbilt and Rui Hachimura helped spark a run to the Western Conference finals, a remarkable turnaround for a team that started the season 2-10.
As talks accelerate over the next 15 days, the perception of a wide-open league provides tremendous motivation for some title and playoff contenders. Here are some other notable pieces to keep an eye on beyond the Lakers, starting with the latest on the situation between Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat.
are sitting in a perilous position, currently just a game ahead of the Dallas Mavericks for sixth in the West, and the guaranteed playoff spot that comes with it. Their two cornerstones -- the 40-year-old LeBron James and Anthony Davis -- continue to perform at elite levels, both almost certain to make another All-Star Game appearance next month in San Francisco.But with the Feb. 6 trade deadline a little more than two weeks away, league sources told ESPN that James and Davis are growing concerned about the Lakers' ability to make significant roster upgrades with their two tradeable first-rounders. James, a four-time champion, and Davis, a one-time champ, have expressed that they want the franchise to make moves to contend for a championship, with the co-stars believing the Lakers are potentially a piece or two away, sources said.
James and Lakers head coach J.J. Redick made some very telling comments after the team's road blowout loss to the LA Clippers on Sunday night.
"That's how our team is constructed, we don't have room for error," James said. "We don't have a choice. That's the way our team is constructed. We have to play close to perfect basketball."
The Lakers have been without Jarred Vanderbilt and Christian Wood, both expected to be key members of the rotation, all season.
"It just goes back to not having a huge margin for error and I think our group is like, if one guy is gone from the rotation, there's an exponential effect to that," Redick said. "When we're healthy, we're whole and we're playing connected and we execute, I think we're a great basketball team."
Just recently, Golden State Warriors star Stephen Curry -- in a similar position as James in the twilight years of his career -- took a different approach, professing patience with the direction of his team. He has been in constant communication with Warriors leadership, and though Golden State has probed for another star to pair with Curry and Draymond Green, the bigger names who might be available have not appealed to all parties.
"Desperate trades or desperate moves that deplete the future, there is a responsibility on allowing or keeping the franchise in a good space and good spot when it comes to where we leave this thing when we're done," Curry said. "Doesn't mean that you're not trying to get better. It doesn't mean that you're not active in any type of search to, if you have an opportunity where a trade makes sense or even in the summer free agency makes sense. You want to continue to get better.
"Nobody wants to be stale or be in a situation where you're passing up opportunities. But it doesn't mean that you're desperate just flinging assets all around the place just because you want to do something."
The Lakers have done their due diligence in gauging trade interest around the league, and are open to using their tradeable first-round picks for players who are a fit for this iteration of the Davis-James team as well as for several years to come under Redick, sources said. Los Angeles has already made one trade this season, sending D'Angelo Russell, Maxwell Lewis and three second-round picks to the Brooklyn Nets for Dorian Finney-Smith and Shake Milton. However, Finney-Smith is still working to find his rhythm, seeing his 3-point shooting drop from 43.5% to 36%, and Milton has essentially been out of the rotation over the past two weeks.
Still, the urgency remains for the Lakers, who won a championship in 2020 with James and Davis, but have won just two playoff series since (both in 2023). The Lakers currently have those two first-round picks (2029, 2031) and two second-round picks (2025, their own and the Clippers') available to be traded, in a league that is currently in the midst of its longest period of parity in decades.
"Boston, OKC and Cleveland are who they are," one high-ranking team official said in recent days. "But this is wide open."
L.A. has been in this position before in the James-Davis era. The Lakers were 27-25 heading into the deadline last season when the team failed to strike a deal, with vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka citing other organizations' disinterest by telling reporters, "You can't buy a house that's not for sale."
The Lakers also sat out the 2022 trade deadline, when the team was 26-30 in their first season with Russell Westbrook, and instead tapped into the waiver wire to try to give the team a boost down the stretch.
The Lakers' patience in 2022 paid off the following season, when Pelinka and the front office executed a series of moves -- including parting with Westbrook and his $46.3 million salary -- to remake the team. The new energy and additional talent acquired in Russell, Vanderbilt and Rui Hachimura helped spark a run to the Western Conference finals, a remarkable turnaround for a team that started the season 2-10.
As talks accelerate over the next 15 days, the perception of a wide-open league provides tremendous motivation for some title and playoff contenders. Here are some other notable pieces to keep an eye on beyond the Lakers, starting with the latest on the situation between Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat.
- Sep 5, 2010
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Vando made his Lakers debut vs the Warriors in 2023.
Will be happy to see him back, another guy that can't dribble, shoot, or create, but he can defend like a dawg so hopefully he can help.
- Apr 24, 2006
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Not expecting much except that he’ll be wide open in the corner for multiple possessions
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I'm in the minority...
but I don't want Jeanie selling the team. I love that we are mom & pop and family run.
As far as the ORGANIZATION is run, it's fantastic it's such a well oiled machine from an opps perspective.
Great public relations, great facility, well staffed, affordable (UNLIKE CHASE)
Now the BASKETBALL side of things (ROB) have been less than ideal for sure.
Not sure how long Rob is on the clock for but I would love to see someone else get a crack at our GM/Basketball operations job.
but I don't want Jeanie selling the team. I love that we are mom & pop and family run.
As far as the ORGANIZATION is run, it's fantastic it's such a well oiled machine from an opps perspective.
Great public relations, great facility, well staffed, affordable (UNLIKE CHASE)
Now the BASKETBALL side of things (ROB) have been less than ideal for sure.
Not sure how long Rob is on the clock for but I would love to see someone else get a crack at our GM/Basketball operations job.
