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Eric Chavez was never too bright.
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I'll go through these one by one.
Here's the problem with the they failed to trade anyone. Expiring Contracts have no value to teams in this new CBA. They only do if two of these three things apply 1. They really want your player 2. You take crap they don’t want (specifically this crap has more than 1 year left on their contract) 3. You trade them an asset with your expiring contract.
Only reason Blake was traded was because there was a team that wanted him. Had some form of assets to trade for him, and were willing to give them up because in the end it was an inexpensive trade for them. Fulfilling the 1. They really wanted Steve Blake 2. You take crap they don't want (Bazemore and Brooks, two young guys who have potential but would never get real shots at playing time).
Jordan Hill was the only one with any value. The only deal that went even past the standard "Hey, is he available?" phone call was the Nets. Guess what the Nets wanted. They wanted Jordan Hill, and they wanted us to trade them a Second Round Pick to them when we got nothing in return. I don’t need to remind you we didn’t even have a second round pick.
Chris Kaman had no value at the deadline. The only team interested were the Sixers. But they didn’t even want Kaman. They wanted a third team involved to take Kaman. So you had to set up a deal in which the Sixers got an asset, the Lakers got an asset, and the third team got an asset just to take Chris Kaman.
Pau Gasol is the classic case of your expiring contract is worthless in this CBA. We were not taking back any contracts (Strike 1). We did not have an asset to trade with Pau (Strike 2). Pau is making $19million which is not a very easy contract to match (Strike 3). The Suns never wanted Pau Gasol. They could have actually traded for him, and when Mitch pushed them, they declined because “They did not want to mess up their chemistry.” They now will miss the playoffs. The Cavs were always lukewarm at best for Pau simply because he was making $19million and they didn’t even believe that he would re-sign with them because he has always said his next contract is likely his last, and he wants to play for a contender, and is not interested in losing. The Bulls offered a better player, in his prime. a player that the Cavs can offer money to, and has been about the money when he turned down a low-ball Bulls offer. He’s also a player the Cavs want to keep, and did not have to give up significant value for.
The reason the Coach, the Front Office, and the players talk about tanking is because they are constantly asked about it. What do you want them to say “Yes, we are absolutely tanking.” No, they’ll say “Of course we are not tanking, we are giving maximum effort to win games. We don’t tank.”
Kobe’s $48million is stupid. I said it was stupid.
The more time goes on, the less I think that Mitch & Jim just gave him a number and he signed. The timing of the extension really reeks of someone played hardball.
Regardless of if someone played hardball or not, it was still a stupid move.
Nobody is disrespecting the organization. Just stop it.
Kobe has been making these types of comments long before Dr. Buss was sick, and even before he was “THE MAN” in LA.
One thing Nick Young has never done is disrespected the Lakers franchise. Nor would he ever want to. Dude bleeds Purple & Gold.
Nash documentary was not an F You to the Lakers. It was a big F YOU to fans (including me) who have been begging him to retire. Him saying he doesn’t contribute anything, (I don’t remember those words but I believe you) is not him saying I’m lazy, I don’t give a damn, I’m just coming into the game and I don’t give a ****. The whole documentary is centered around him being at the end, and putting in more work than any guy on the team just to get on the court. Even if it is for 1 game. Him saying he’s in it for the money is saying what every player truly believes, and again is him giving a Big F YOU to everyone telling him to walk away from $10mil promised to him.
Pau has been crying for years. He's a passive aggressive guy. It is what he does.
What did you really think they could do to "stop this"
About Pau let me ask you this question was 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons met with an expectation to win a title?
Think about that answer, and then read on.
2011-12 They did trade him. Along with our 6th Man. But for a Franchise PG that was to help lead us to a title for the next 5 years. When that trade was nixed. There was very little reason to trade him.
The Wolves decline Kevin Love for Pau Gasol. Celtics declined Rondo for Pau. Obviously smart decisions. After that you look at who is available for him. Bulls declined Deng for Pau. No team in the lottery was trading their 1st Round Pick or Pau. We were trying to win a title. Had the 3rd seed. Even at 2011-12, Pau Gasol’s value was a late 1st round pick. Why do you ask? Just look at the new CBA. He was owed $57m over the next 3 years. That has very little value to any team for barely All-Star who is rapidly declining.
2012-13
We couldn’t make any big moves until we knew what was happening with Dwight. Because if any team wanted Pau instead of Bynum and we already traded Pau, we’d be screwed. Then we added Steve Nash. Then we added Dwight Howard, and did not have to trade Pau. So we added 2 franchise players and still had our franchise player. Why would you trade Pau? What point would you have made by trading Pau for even half of what we could have gotten the year before. Especially when this year was definitely a “We have 2 years, we need to get a title.” Turns out it was a marriage from hell, and none of it worked out. Not Kobe. Not getting Dwight. Not getting Nash, and not keeping Pau. Any Pau rumor we had were all the same players from the previous year, and even less teams in the late 1st who would even give up a pick.
2013-14 Pau’s $19million contract is still a difficult pill to swallow in this CBA. Now add to a horrendous season, and cut his value in half again, and what would have trading Pau gotten us that keeping him didn’t? Nothing.
Pau was destined to end his contract with the Lakers the day the CP3 trade was vetoed. Because we would never get even 10 cents on the dollar for Pau again.
I also wouldn’t be so sure he’s leaving.
C CP1708 It isn't being blind. It is coming to the realization that expiring contracts no longer have the value that they used to because of the new CBA. Trading Kaman wouldn't have made a difference. Nor would Pau. No reason to trade Nick Young. He was here for way under market value, and even knowing he was opting out, still says he'd take less to stay in LA. That's something to consider. Hill, sure. But we disagree on what was actually out there for him. Not to forget, he's a guy they could want to keep.
Again please let's refrain from the "It cost us Wiggins, Parker, Embiid or Exum" until we know where we are drafting. Because if we are top 3, then it meant nothing. We won't know where we draft until the lottery night, also if 4th and 5th.. End up 4th & 5th or 5th & 6th, we need to also stop talking about winning games against Utah or Boston.
Here's the problem with the they failed to trade anyone. Expiring Contracts have no value to teams in this new CBA. They only do if two of these three things apply 1. They really want your player 2. You take crap they don’t want (specifically this crap has more than 1 year left on their contract) 3. You trade them an asset with your expiring contract.
Only reason Blake was traded was because there was a team that wanted him. Had some form of assets to trade for him, and were willing to give them up because in the end it was an inexpensive trade for them. Fulfilling the 1. They really wanted Steve Blake 2. You take crap they don't want (Bazemore and Brooks, two young guys who have potential but would never get real shots at playing time).
Jordan Hill was the only one with any value. The only deal that went even past the standard "Hey, is he available?" phone call was the Nets. Guess what the Nets wanted. They wanted Jordan Hill, and they wanted us to trade them a Second Round Pick to them when we got nothing in return. I don’t need to remind you we didn’t even have a second round pick.
Chris Kaman had no value at the deadline. The only team interested were the Sixers. But they didn’t even want Kaman. They wanted a third team involved to take Kaman. So you had to set up a deal in which the Sixers got an asset, the Lakers got an asset, and the third team got an asset just to take Chris Kaman.
Pau Gasol is the classic case of your expiring contract is worthless in this CBA. We were not taking back any contracts (Strike 1). We did not have an asset to trade with Pau (Strike 2). Pau is making $19million which is not a very easy contract to match (Strike 3). The Suns never wanted Pau Gasol. They could have actually traded for him, and when Mitch pushed them, they declined because “They did not want to mess up their chemistry.” They now will miss the playoffs. The Cavs were always lukewarm at best for Pau simply because he was making $19million and they didn’t even believe that he would re-sign with them because he has always said his next contract is likely his last, and he wants to play for a contender, and is not interested in losing. The Bulls offered a better player, in his prime. a player that the Cavs can offer money to, and has been about the money when he turned down a low-ball Bulls offer. He’s also a player the Cavs want to keep, and did not have to give up significant value for.
The reason the Coach, the Front Office, and the players talk about tanking is because they are constantly asked about it. What do you want them to say “Yes, we are absolutely tanking.” No, they’ll say “Of course we are not tanking, we are giving maximum effort to win games. We don’t tank.”
Kobe’s $48million is stupid. I said it was stupid.
The more time goes on, the less I think that Mitch & Jim just gave him a number and he signed. The timing of the extension really reeks of someone played hardball.
Regardless of if someone played hardball or not, it was still a stupid move.
Nobody is disrespecting the organization. Just stop it.
Kobe has been making these types of comments long before Dr. Buss was sick, and even before he was “THE MAN” in LA.
One thing Nick Young has never done is disrespected the Lakers franchise. Nor would he ever want to. Dude bleeds Purple & Gold.
Nash documentary was not an F You to the Lakers. It was a big F YOU to fans (including me) who have been begging him to retire. Him saying he doesn’t contribute anything, (I don’t remember those words but I believe you) is not him saying I’m lazy, I don’t give a damn, I’m just coming into the game and I don’t give a ****. The whole documentary is centered around him being at the end, and putting in more work than any guy on the team just to get on the court. Even if it is for 1 game. Him saying he’s in it for the money is saying what every player truly believes, and again is him giving a Big F YOU to everyone telling him to walk away from $10mil promised to him.
Pau has been crying for years. He's a passive aggressive guy. It is what he does.
What did you really think they could do to "stop this"
About Pau let me ask you this question was 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons met with an expectation to win a title?
Think about that answer, and then read on.
2011-12 They did trade him. Along with our 6th Man. But for a Franchise PG that was to help lead us to a title for the next 5 years. When that trade was nixed. There was very little reason to trade him.
The Wolves decline Kevin Love for Pau Gasol. Celtics declined Rondo for Pau. Obviously smart decisions. After that you look at who is available for him. Bulls declined Deng for Pau. No team in the lottery was trading their 1st Round Pick or Pau. We were trying to win a title. Had the 3rd seed. Even at 2011-12, Pau Gasol’s value was a late 1st round pick. Why do you ask? Just look at the new CBA. He was owed $57m over the next 3 years. That has very little value to any team for barely All-Star who is rapidly declining.
2012-13
We couldn’t make any big moves until we knew what was happening with Dwight. Because if any team wanted Pau instead of Bynum and we already traded Pau, we’d be screwed. Then we added Steve Nash. Then we added Dwight Howard, and did not have to trade Pau. So we added 2 franchise players and still had our franchise player. Why would you trade Pau? What point would you have made by trading Pau for even half of what we could have gotten the year before. Especially when this year was definitely a “We have 2 years, we need to get a title.” Turns out it was a marriage from hell, and none of it worked out. Not Kobe. Not getting Dwight. Not getting Nash, and not keeping Pau. Any Pau rumor we had were all the same players from the previous year, and even less teams in the late 1st who would even give up a pick.
2013-14 Pau’s $19million contract is still a difficult pill to swallow in this CBA. Now add to a horrendous season, and cut his value in half again, and what would have trading Pau gotten us that keeping him didn’t? Nothing.
Pau was destined to end his contract with the Lakers the day the CP3 trade was vetoed. Because we would never get even 10 cents on the dollar for Pau again.
I also wouldn’t be so sure he’s leaving.
C CP1708 It isn't being blind. It is coming to the realization that expiring contracts no longer have the value that they used to because of the new CBA. Trading Kaman wouldn't have made a difference. Nor would Pau. No reason to trade Nick Young. He was here for way under market value, and even knowing he was opting out, still says he'd take less to stay in LA. That's something to consider. Hill, sure. But we disagree on what was actually out there for him. Not to forget, he's a guy they could want to keep.
Again please let's refrain from the "It cost us Wiggins, Parker, Embiid or Exum" until we know where we are drafting. Because if we are top 3, then it meant nothing. We won't know where we draft until the lottery night, also if 4th and 5th.. End up 4th & 5th or 5th & 6th, we need to also stop talking about winning games against Utah or Boston.
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Stauskas could be lottery-bound
Chad Ford's Top 100: No. 19
Strengths: Shooting, TO%, PF% | Weaknesses: Usage, Rebound%, Steal%
WARP projection: 1.2 (26th among top 100)
Comparables: Doron Lamb (94.9), John Jenkins (91.6), Daniel Gibson (91.3), Terrico White (90.
The analytics perspective
Kevin Pelton: Thanks to his ability to knock down shots, Stauskas is an elite offensive prospect. Among players in Chad's top 50, only Doug McDermott has a better projected true shooting percentage (.550) for next season based on translated college performance. And while Stauskas will probably be primarily a role player early in his NBA career, he's shown the ability to create his own shot, which makes him more than just a specialist.
However, real concerns about his defensive contributions drive down his WARP projection. Among perimeter players in my database of college translations dating back to 2003, only Jason Kapono and Joe Crawford have made the NBA with similarly poor NCAA steal rates. Given the importance of steal rate as an indicator of NBA success, that's a red flag, and Stauskas is also poor on the glass.
The scouting perspective
Amin Elhassan: The 2014 draft is thick with combo guards, and Stauskas throws his hat into that ring. He's a terrific shooter from all areas of the floor, and possesses a nice, fluid stroke and quick release. He consistently was one of the best shooters in college. Additionally, he's a crafty finisher around the basket, using off-rhythm dribbles and/or steps to get to the front of the rim and avoid shot-blockers. Stauskas has 2-guard size at 6-foot-6 but does not have a long wingspan. He does have good vision and passes well with both hands (with decent accuracy on passes).
In pick-and-roll play, he does a good job of reading options and making quick decisions. I question whether he has the explosion to beat guys off the bounce with a live dribble, but I love his ability to run a secondary pick-and-roll off the catch on the wing. In many ways, Stauskas reminds me of J.J. Redick in his ability to run pick-and-roll or catch the ball moving off screens and deliver pocket passes. Plus, he does a good job of hitting ahead in transition.
However, there are serious questions about Stauskas' ability to defend. On-ball, he can be "magnetized" by screens, anticipating contact even when the screener has slipped and letting his man get by. Off-ball, he has good awareness but small strides make it hard for him to close out in a hurry. He also has a bad habit of gambling and trying to shoot the gap on screens rather than locking and trailing. Otherwise, he doesn't give you much in the way of steals or defensive rebounds.
Stauskas' dead-eye shooting and playmaking give him a chance to be a solid rotation player, a la Redick, but his defensive habits must improve (also a la Redick).
The NBA front-office perspective
Chad Ford: There are really two paths to becoming a high draft pick. One is to have unique physical attributes and athletic ability; if you have great size, length, explosiveness or quickness for a particular position, you always get a look. The other is to have a skill that easily translates to the NBA.
Stauskas has the latter. Most NBA GMs and scouts consider him one of the best pure shooters in the draft. He has a super quick release on his jumper and can get it off against just about anywhere on the floor. In a league devoid of great shooters, Stauskas is an instant commodity.
However, he's more than just a shooter. He has an excellent handle, can play the point in a pinch and has a high basketball IQ that allows him to score in other ways besides 3s. The only real knock on him is on the defensive end. He lacks the lateral quickness to guard most 2s at the next level.
Still, this draft doesn't have a lot of elite prospects who are great shooters. Once we get out of the top 10, the first team that really needs shooting from the guard position is going to be sorely tempted. He should go somewhere between Nos. 12 to 24 on draft night.
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Bill Simmons would have a fit. A week later we would see a 30 for 30 "The Rigged 2014 NBA Draft Lottery"I know you really want to believe that, but sorry man, Pincus just told me the other day, LA passed on trading Pau to Cleveland.
And look how he phrases it. (cuz you know he gets his info direct from Mitch himself probably)
Saving money, not important.
Oh?
That's not why we would be trading Pau tho. Not "just" about saving money, it's about enhancing your better asset. This draft pick >>>>> 1 more God damn year of Pau's sorry ***, and no way to dispute that.
Here's the other piece.
With Pau on roster, after trading Blake, the only way to get under the tax lines was to flip BOTH Hill and Kaman, couldn't do just one. That's why the Nets pushed for an asset with Hill, they don't want to help us get under the tax, if they buy Hill, and we flip Kaman, we "save" money.
Well, if Pau is already gone, that part of the equation is already out the window. Again, now you have even more flexibility to move pieces, and ensure that asset.
If Pau is dealt early in the process, the money is already saved, and teams have no reason to resist "helping" us. We already under the tax line. They need a player (Kaman, Young, Hill) they can have him, and not cost anything other than cheap stuff, throwaway contracts, 2nd rounders, etc.
Keeping Pau because "money is not an issue" is not the right way to play it. And so help me, if we go into this offseason and either re-sign Pau, or let him walk for nothing, and get absolutely no value in return, and end up with the 6th pick instead of a much better shot at top 3...............good luck spinning that.
At some point dude, you gotta open your eyes and see Mitch has fallen off post CP3. I hope he turns it around, and proves me wrong, but you back every single detail you can, at some point, step back and look.
I was just as big a Mitch guy as you were, but I'm not anymore. He's let me down for the past year now. And he's already screwing with our future. Kobe's deal, not working smarter on this draft pick, resisting the tank process to begin with, threatening to trade this pick.
He's a stubborn businessman that thinks he can keep on doin what he's always done, when the rest of the landscape has changed all around him.
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I just found some really interesting stuff. 
I was thinkin about how Jerry West sold off pieces to pull in Shaq. The Peeler-Lynch trade to Vancouver that had Danny Ainge all upset cuz he knew West would be able to pair Shaq, with Kobe.
Remember folks argue that Shaq came first, then Kobe? Well, look what I found.
2 days later.......
Divac, Peeler, and Lynch. All dumped, to enhance the chance at landing a bigger fish.
Same thing Mitch could have done. Dump the lesser pieces, to help enhance our chances at a bigger prize. West did it. Why wouldn't Mitch?
Hell, it cost West 120 million. Mitch would only be on the hook for 20+ million, and he'd be cutting loose older vets anyways.
I was thinkin about how Jerry West sold off pieces to pull in Shaq. The Peeler-Lynch trade to Vancouver that had Danny Ainge all upset cuz he knew West would be able to pair Shaq, with Kobe.
Remember folks argue that Shaq came first, then Kobe? Well, look what I found.
2 days later.......
Divac, Peeler, and Lynch. All dumped, to enhance the chance at landing a bigger fish.
Same thing Mitch could have done. Dump the lesser pieces, to help enhance our chances at a bigger prize. West did it. Why wouldn't Mitch?
Hell, it cost West 120 million. Mitch would only be on the hook for 20+ million, and he'd be cutting loose older vets anyways.
I know, I was speaking to him on the Suns deal, and then the Cavs. He claims the Suns did not want to move a 1st, no matter what. He follows that with WE backed off the Cavs trade.
And then says Mitch prefers to keep Pau. And I ask you, what the **** for?
Deal Pau, you get out from that salary, and open more trade options. Now what? Bring back his 34 year old washed self?
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Simply put saying "this franchise doesn't have a good plan" is ridiculous.
They have a plan, just because you as a fan don't know the plan doesn't mean they don't have one.
Or if you think you know the plan and don't agree with it, that's on you. But to say the people running a billion dollar franchise group with investors on their backs don't have a plan is kind of short sighted.
In this league plans change constantly due to circumstances you can't control (injuries, contracts, etc)
What was once the plan 3 months ago may have been altered today. We all should keep that in mind
They have a plan, just because you as a fan don't know the plan doesn't mean they don't have one.
Or if you think you know the plan and don't agree with it, that's on you. But to say the people running a billion dollar franchise group with investors on their backs don't have a plan is kind of short sighted.
In this league plans change constantly due to circumstances you can't control (injuries, contracts, etc)
What was once the plan 3 months ago may have been altered today. We all should keep that in mind
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The plan, stupid or not (you know what side I'm on) was to compete for the playoffs while retaining 2014 cap flexibility.
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CP you're making a presumption that teams would definitely give us an asset for Hill or Kaman if we were under the tax line.
That's not how teams work. If they like the deal, and it helps their team and view it as fair, they make the trade. They don't worry about Wellllll if I make this trade it helps them.
Teams make trades based on their OWN needs not the other teams.
I always enjoy the hilarity of your discussions with Pincus because like here you can't admit when you are being presumptuous as opposed to saying something from reality
That's not how teams work. If they like the deal, and it helps their team and view it as fair, they make the trade. They don't worry about Wellllll if I make this trade it helps them.
Teams make trades based on their OWN needs not the other teams.
I always enjoy the hilarity of your discussions with Pincus because like here you can't admit when you are being presumptuous as opposed to saying something from reality
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Hold on I don't get it ...why is everyone all of a sudden acting surprised about this season!
We ALL knew what this season was gonna be as soon as Kobe got injured and D12 left.
Compete for the playoffs?! I think CP was the only one calling tank from the start
The difference with me is I'm not gonna pretend I know every single detail of our franchise plan everyday.
They have told us time and time again that the main priority with the new CBA is to get as much flexibility as possible. And they have set themselves up for that.
Minus that stupid Kobe contract they have done that. So unless they go against that I don't know how you feel failed/betrayed by Mitch or Jim...
Could they have made better choices with opportunities this year. Of course.
Does it deviate from their main purpose that they have told us. No.
So what are we really arguing over in here? Honestly.
We ALL knew what this season was gonna be as soon as Kobe got injured and D12 left.
Compete for the playoffs?! I think CP was the only one calling tank from the start
The difference with me is I'm not gonna pretend I know every single detail of our franchise plan everyday.
They have told us time and time again that the main priority with the new CBA is to get as much flexibility as possible. And they have set themselves up for that.
Minus that stupid Kobe contract they have done that. So unless they go against that I don't know how you feel failed/betrayed by Mitch or Jim...
Could they have made better choices with opportunities this year. Of course.
Does it deviate from their main purpose that they have told us. No.
So what are we really arguing over in here? Honestly.
NO.
I am not. Just as you said with the Asik deal, no return. Sell.
They can just take Hill. Someone can just have Kaman, we don't need anything back. IF, we get something for them, great, if not, no biggie.
Same as the Blake deal. Baze+Brooks, meh. Whatever. Maybe we keep Baze, maybe not, it's whatever.
Same thing with them. They were not needed in LA, either buy them out, or sell them to another team, but bottom line, get them off the roster.
It's about flushing the whole system. You don't tear it down to 35%, you tear it down to 7%. Flush everything out. Play Sacre, Kelly, Marshall, X, etc 35 minutes a night, every night, and take each L without qualm.
Listen to Mitch this year. "Unfortunately, we have a high pick."
"We won't make deals that don't make basketball sense" K, Jerry West traded two young players for a 2nd round pick. Without guarantee that Shaq would sign. That ain't no damn basketball sensical trade.
There was nothing to protect here. Nothing. The season was a bust from jump, we all saw it coming, you know they did too. Why sit still and do nothing?
I use Hill and Kaman as examples merely as bigs that are in demand, that could help other teams on the cheap, I haven't even pushed yet for why the hell wasn't Nick Young sold? Of all of them, he's the one that shoulda been sold the most, but, I don't have a high opinion of him, and I suspect neither do many playoff teams. So in that sense, I get why no market or value would be there. Otherwise, I would have demanded he been sold.
No, there were plenty of others.
He's saying The Lakers plan was to try and make the playoffs, words straight out of Mitch's mouth.
Basically just saying that more should have been done, and that this pick, which currently sits at 6th, should have been protected much, much better. We should have tried with everything in our franchise ability to get that thing inside the top 3 no matter what.
I realize we still have a chance to get "lucky" and come up, but that is still based on percentaged odds. Odds that are stronger within the top 3, than the top 6.
In doing that, we could have gotten rid of some vets/contracts earlier, and possibly gotten under the tax-repeater-luxury, wherever they could have gotten.
Another thing would have been better handling of Nash situation. Either shutting him down, or buyout, or ask him to retire, or medical 10 game thing, something, anything.
Basically, we did none of those things, outside flipping Steve Blake.
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The key word there is TRY. And c'mon CP let's not play dumb here ...you no as a GM you are not gonna come out and say "hey, our only franchise player is hurt and most of our players are on one year deals so making the playoffs are out for us"
C'mon CP of course that's what would come out of his mouth lol
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You spend a lot of time attempting to make fun of me. If you spent nearly half of that time trying to fix your life you could be happier one day. Just don't want you to jump off a building someday bro
Somebodys hurt lol
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Oh yea to digress...
My lil brother is taking his middle school state exams this week and everything is so intense surrounding it.
I don't remember things being this serious and intense back in my middle school days
My lil brother is taking his middle school state exams this week and everything is so intense surrounding it.
I don't remember things being this serious and intense back in my middle school days
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Hey licensed to balls how bout we make that reward for winning the prediction contest you not posting in the sports forum for a week?
Even tho he flat out gave me the fact I was right and we should have dealt Pau to Cleveland?
He is arguing I was wrong about Hill and Kaman, because Pau never got dealt. My entire point is, and has been, if Pau's dealt, it opens up other deals.
And Pincus said, we backed off Pau to Cleveland, cuz money matters not. Make that deal, and suddenly doors open elsewhere.
Hard to convey that to the guy in 140 characters. I need him to join NT so we can get familiar.
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So in retrospect, they did have a plan, it was just the most asinine one they could have concocted...
1) Make the playoffs
2) Write Kobe a blank check
3) Not get rid of Pau or anyone that would allow us to suck even more
4) Convince Nash to leave (though really nothing they could do about that since he's only about his money anyway)
5) Don't get under the luxury tax
6) Get the worst possible draft pick possible by having these guys still play all out
Nice...can't wait for the draft and the offseason.
1) Make the playoffs
2) Write Kobe a blank check
3) Not get rid of Pau or anyone that would allow us to suck even more
4) Convince Nash to leave (though really nothing they could do about that since he's only about his money anyway)
5) Don't get under the luxury tax
6) Get the worst possible draft pick possible by having these guys still play all out
Nice...can't wait for the draft and the offseason.
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Oh yea to digress...
My lil brother is taking his middle school state exams this week and everything is so intense surrounding it.
I don't remember things being this serious and intense back in my middle school days
Yeah.. Basically is the measure of teacher effectiveness now.
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And I get all of that I truly do. I've stated my frustrations with stuff they could have done too.
Could they have done more with what they had? Yes. Of course.
Do I hate Steve Nash? Yes.
But you don't ask a HOFer to retire. You just don't. That's gutless and it's not what we are about.
Could we have fought harder to get better chances of a higher pick?? Yes of course. Still pissed about that Utah win. But at the end of the day the lottery is the lottery. No matter what nothing is set in stone.
So at the end of the day all I'm saying is could they have done more with the situations they had this year, yes but our grand scheme still isn't changed as a whole. And history shows sometimes when you don't act on every little thing that comes up in the season you will be better off for it.
You can't bite at EVERY opportunity that comes along.