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conch > abalone here and IRL
conch > abalone here and IRL
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Hideous, but I love the Under The Sea™ theme.
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Looks like stonewash jeans
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Not too bad. I'm interested.
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An all-time great shoe ruined by below average colorways..
There has really been zero cw's thus far that seem like an must cop for me.
There has really been zero cw's thus far that seem like an must cop for me.
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Wow… all colorways are $151 on NDC. Even Abalone.
Don’t remember the 20s going on discount this quickly. Abalone just released.
Don’t remember the 20s going on discount this quickly. Abalone just released.
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Me either. I've been holding onto a 20% off coup for them Abalone and told myself if they come down like the other colorways I would snag em...but now I'm wondering if I should wait a little longer. I really like that colorway.
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It’s odd. 20s still weren’t that easy to find for $150 until summertime. That was just less than 6 months ago.
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Nobody I play with is rushing out to buy the 21s. We all stocked up on 20s, think the 20 look better, and haven’t heard the 21s are a significant improvement. Maybe Nike is just having a hard moving hoop shoes in general and the hoopers aren’t buying like me and my boys aren’t.
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I haven’t seen anyone with 21s either. I have 4 colorways and thankfully stocked up on several 20s.
Nike must be having a very hard time. Setting the 21s at $150 so quickly will have a trickle effect. It’s like Banana Republic - no one is willing to pay full price on their clothes because there’s always a 40% off sale.
If 21s are $150, people may be hesitant to pay $160 for KD 16s. And they would be very reluctant to pay $200 for new colorways, when they may be $150 in 2 weeks.
Nike must be desperate and sales must have had a huge decline this year.
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It’s Nike basketball in general. Product isn’t really moving like it used to.
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It's their own fault. NBY? No. Hype training Kobe's after his death. Yes. And just generally doing mediocre work on their basketball line.
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It's not odd, the 21's aren't as popular as the 20's and most aren't buying the 21's.
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It’s more than just popularity of 21s.
Selling your top signature shoe at 25% off within weeks of release smells like desperation.
Must be a big drop in sales beyond just 21s.
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for me the colorways have been horrendous on the 21.
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The 21 is so close in performance and look, it's probably hard to convince the basketball players to buy a $200 21.
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The only performance basketball shoe that is selling out at a $200 retail in 2023-2024 is a Kobe.
The 21 is a great shoe, people just aren't going to pay that high MSRP for it when they know it's going to go on discount.
The 21 is a great shoe, people just aren't going to pay that high MSRP for it when they know it's going to go on discount.
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One of Lebron's lines biggest issue was he got that bubble championship in August during the middle of Covid with factory shut downs when there couldn't be championship, cigar, champagne, cork limited Lebron's. That would have brought more energy to the line.
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hard to sell a shoe for $200 if the colorways are trash
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it seems the 20's were selling at retail last year. inflation/economy also messing up sales for nonessential sneakers
