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Originally Posted by Ballinsam23

Originally Posted by MrONegative

Originally Posted by HarlemToTheBronx

Nips gon' be poking out.
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.......he prefers the syrup
more of a jelly guy myself



The real question is the easy way or the hard way .....
 
The posts in here the last 24 hrs................................................

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Its like we dont know what to do with ourselves on an off day when no1 is panicking, and the skies not falling
 
Originally Posted by blackredxiiigoat

Originally Posted by CoupeIt88

Out of curiosity fellow Knick Fans.
A friend of mine were speaking about Amar'e and his health. Back issues have ruined plenty careers (T-Mac), Amare is 29 years old, he will be 30 next year. We owe him another 3yr/60$ million. If we find out he will never be the same again since he's most likely going to have surgery; Don't stone me for proposing this...

Should we Amnesty him? Take him out of our salary cap and try to sign a better fit Free Agent?

Unfortunately, we couldn't if we wanted to. The amnesty clause was a 1 time thing and we used it on Chauncey. It would've been a viable option though, in my opinion.

Which to me was an Isiah Thomas level of stupidity move.  Correct me if I am wrong, but did we not pick up his one year option in the off season, THEN waive him with the amnesty clause?!
 
We picked up his option with plans of having that big expiring contract to use as a centerpiece in a deadline deal (possibly for CP3).

Then the Paul possibility became less and less realistic and we had the chance to instead grab up one of the top free agents and top centers in the game. I can't knock the move at all. Amar'e has 3 years left. Whether he's healthy of not, after two years he'll be extremely valuable as an expiring contract. It's really not as bad as it seems.

It'd suck if he was really done, but we'd still have Melo and Tyson along with Lin (assuming we lock him up long term with our mid level this offseason). Shumpert is here to stay, too. Won't be that difficult to find a sharpshooter (probably by nearly as good as Novak
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) and a servicable backup PG. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but with or without Amar'e, we're in good shape.
 
We ain't going anywhere without a 2 guard and fixing the rebounding and point guard problems. Got alot of work to do and we don't even have a legit GM
 
Yeah, we have things to fix, but it's far from doom and gloom. Only problem I have is the draft pick situation.

Grunwald has done a great job building a bench with literally no money to work with. Maybe it's a fluke, but I'll give him another chance to show his worth.
 
Yeah we are def in a better position than we have been in probably a decade. We have a legit scorer, a legit center, and Dantoni is gone

He is still the interim gm which bothers me. make him GM or get someone else.

We ae probably gonna be better off when melo signs his next contract. Tyson and melo prob won't be looking for the huge payday cuz we already gave it to them. Plus the honeymoon will be over and they will be feeling the pressure to win
 
Originally Posted by Big J 33

[h1][/h1]The Difference in Miami's Fourth-Quarter Melo Defense from Grantland.
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Watching the New York Knicks play the Miami Heat is an interesting clash in styles. Since Mike Woodson took over as the Knicks’ coach — especially since Amar'e Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin went down with injuries — his team has relied largely on isolation plays, usually for Carmelo Anthony. The Heat have the league's best defense when it comes to defending isolation offense. Their 0.709 points allowed per possession in these situations is the NBA’s best, and opposing teams shoot just 33 percent when they try to go one-on-one against Miami. One reason why Miami is so tough on defense is that they have LeBron James, who allows just 0.574 points per possession (PPP) when opponents isolate against him.

Knowing this, it was surprising to see Anthony go off against Miami using simple isolation plays throughout the game’s first three quarters. He scored 21 points on 15 isolation possessions until the fourth quarter, according to Synergy Sports. He scored effectively against both James and Shane Battier. So why couldn’t Miami stop him? After breaking down some tape, it seems like the Heat failed to execute their game plan against Anthony.
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Miami's strategy against Anthony is to force him baseline and hopefully into a second defender. In this play, as Anthony catches the ball, James positions his body to cover the middle and send Anthony to the baseline. James even points toward the baseline to let Chris Bosh know that he is forcing Anthony there.

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As Anthony starts his drive, James rides his left shoulder to ensure that Anthony can’t go back to the middle. Bosh provides help as Udonis Haslem rotates to the middle to cover Bosh’s man. So far, the execution looks perfect.

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Sometimes, though, good offense beats good defense, and that’s what happens here. Anthony pulls up and hits the jump shot before Bosh can help.

On this possession, Bosh is in the right spot to provide help, but Anthony pulls up for the jumper and leans into James's body to prevent him from blocking his shot from behind. If Anthony took shots like this for the entire game and knocked them down, I'm sure Miami would accept it. In the following possessions, however, the baseline help arrived late or didn’t come at all, and Anthony found easy lanes to the rim.

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On this possession, Anthony catches the ball on the wing. Again, James forces him baseline. This defense relies on help, and that help should be coming from Bosh.

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As Anthony starts to drive, Bosh needs to range over and cut him off. Dwyane Wade is rotating to cover Bosh’s man — "helping the helper" — and he even points to the spot where Bosh should rotate to. Instead, Bosh sticks with his man, who is so deep on the weakside baseline that he’s actually out of bounds. This is the danger of relying on rotations. When one guy messes up, the defense falls apart.

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James recognizes that the help isn't coming, so instead of giving Anthony a layup, he takes the foul and sends him to the free throw line.

In nearly all of Anthony’s isolation possessions on Sunday, James or Battier forced him to the help. Unfortunately, the help rarely came, and when it did, it was late. This helped Anthony light up the Heat for three quarters. So what changed in the fourth? Miami started playing Anthony straight up, and Anthony started settling for jump shots.

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On this possession, James plays Anthony straight up, so when Anthony starts to drive baseline, James stays in front of him and stops his drive.

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When the Heat abandon the defensive scheme and allow James to play Anthony one-on-one, James beats him to the spot and forces him to cross over back to his left.

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Anthony ends up forcing a contested 3-pointer. Now, part of this is great defense by LeBron, but look at the shot clock. After his initial attempt to drive, Anthony doesn’t explore any other options. He just shoots a 3. On this possession, not only did James’s defense slow down Anthony, but Anthony also settled for a tough shot with 17 seconds left to find a better opportunity.

James also made an effort to keep the ball out of Anthony's hands in the fourth quarter.

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Here, J.R. Smith is trying to pass to Anthony at the elbow, but James fronts Anthony to make Smith’s pass more difficult.

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Smith dribbles to the wing to create a better angle for the pass, but James stays in front of Anthony. Meanwhile, time is melting off the shot clock.

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Eventually, Smith lobs the ball over James. Anthony catches the ball in the corner with five seconds left on the shot clock. Anthony shoots a contested 3 and misses.

In the fourth quarter, Anthony had five isolation possessions and scored five points. On four of those possessions, Anthony shot three 3-pointers and a long 2. He made one of the 3s, but it was contested. Instead of forcing Anthony baseline, the Heat stayed in front of Anthony, prevented his drives, and let him shoot himself out of rhythm.

Another factor in Anthony’s less-productive fourth quarter was the change in play calling. In the first three quarters, Anthony isolation plays started with other movement. For example, Anthony would set a back screen or get a pin-down screen, then pop out to the wing to catch the ball and go one-on-one. These simple actions like working off screens make it easier for Anthony to isolate. In the fourth quarter, that movement vanished. Instead, Anthony brought the ball up and just looked to score. That, or he just stood at the elbow and waited for a pass. That made Anthony's job much more difficult. When Woodson was coach of the Atlanta Hawks, his team had a similar problem with the offense becoming stagnant late in games.
If the Knicks and the Heat end up playing each other in the playoffs, it will be interesting to see how Miami coach Erik Spoelstra decides to defend Anthony. The help scheme he devised for Sunday’s game can work, but the team needs to execute it consistently. Spoelstra must decide if he wants to risk giving Anthony layups if the scheme breaks down, or if he just wants Miami’s wing defenders like James and Battier to guard Anthony straight up. For Woodson’s Knicks, isolation is their game, and they will probably ride that in the playoffs. But to be more effective late in games they must initiate the isolation offense with screens and ball movement. If they just let Anthony stand at the elbow and wait for the basketball to go one-on-five, they won’t stand a chance against Miami or any of their other likely first-round playoff opponents.
Thanks for posting this. Very spot-on. I should read Grantland more.
 
Originally Posted by mjmoney23

Originally Posted by blackredxiiigoat

Originally Posted by CoupeIt88

Out of curiosity fellow Knick Fans.
A friend of mine were speaking about Amar'e and his health. Back issues have ruined plenty careers (T-Mac), Amare is 29 years old, he will be 30 next year. We owe him another 3yr/60$ million. If we find out he will never be the same again since he's most likely going to have surgery; Don't stone me for proposing this...

Should we Amnesty him? Take him out of our salary cap and try to sign a better fit Free Agent?

Unfortunately, we couldn't if we wanted to. The amnesty clause was a 1 time thing and we used it on Chauncey. It would've been a viable option though, in my opinion.

Which to me was an Isiah Thomas level of stupidity move.  Correct me if I am wrong, but did we not pick up his one year option in the off season, THEN waive him with the amnesty clause?!

Because if they didn't then they wouldn't have been able to acquire Chandler.  If you'd honestly choose Chauncey over Chandler then you're on your own.  Chandler is the MVP of this team.
 
I with the move then. To me its just too bad that picked up that option to begin with. He was not worth 12 million or whatever it was for. I didn't put 2 and 2 together with the Chandler signing. To me, the real issue was picking up that option in the first place.
 
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