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jules episode was alright. nothing special. hard to follow the rue episode but the scene where she was a catalyst for her mother relapsing was a powerful scene. the therapy scenes fell short and didn't really do much for me. the dialogue just wasn't interesting. she's a good actress though.

how many of these episodes are they doing? hopefully they do fez next and not tyler
 
Anybody using the Xfinity app to watch the content? The interface is absolutely terrible. Night and day from Roku version.

Yep, the HBO Max app on Xfinity works works fine. I was able to watch through my receiver/tv with no problems.
 
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The voice recordings of the Madames was 100% bogus. You make an allegation like that that isn’t a felony- you better show your face on camera. I don’t care if it’s bad for the sex business or whatever. That was completely reckless of the directors to allow that.

And no- while Tiger’s circle may be small he and his agent aren’t the only two people who could have refuted various aspects of the doc. You know that isn’t even close to being true man.

Next is Pat Mahomes though . The White mob will come for him eventually and it will be ugly. That or his white wife will turn on him and attempt to get 50% of that $500M deal.

This whole post is much, MUCH less objective or fair than the documentary. You may not like it, but Tiger did what he did. Further, he was offered the chance to be in it to offer his side, but declined. Obviously that's his right, but you can't turn around and critique the doc for not having his side if he declined to offer it. Also, he is extremely rich and powerful, if anything is demonstrably false he can sue. If he doesn't want to go that route, he can just deny the claims in public. He hasn't done so to my knowledge.

There are valid critiques of the documentary, but calling the director reckless or slandering Pat Mahome's wife isn't fair IMO. I searched and this quote from his agent is all I could find from his camp in regards to the documentary:

“Just like the book it is based off of, the upcoming HBO documentary is just another unauthorized and salacious outsider attempt to paint an incomplete portrait of one of the greatest athletes of all-time,” Steinberg said.

Notice how weak it is, he doesn't actually refute anything. But the facts are the facts, so what else could he say?
 
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Finally finished the Tiger doc. Not a fan of Tiger self hating *** but didn't see anything crazy or reckless about this. Like someone said if the worst he's done is pop some pills for intense back pain and smash some **** he'll be alright. I don't like there's no family authorization, but it's not the salacious hit piece it's made out to be.
 
This whole post is much, MUCH less objective or fair than the documentary. You may not like it, but Tiger did what he did. Further, he was offered the chance to be in it to offer his side, but declined. Obviously that's his right, but you can't turn around and critique the doc for not having his side if he declined to offer it. Also, he is extremely rich and powerful, if anything is demonstrably false he can sue. If he doesn't want to go that route, he can just deny the claims in public. He hasn't done so to my knowledge.

There are valid critiques of the documentary, but calling the director reckless or slandering Pat Mahome's wife isn't fair IMO. I searched and this quote from his agent is all I could find from his camp in regards to the documentary:

“Just like the book it is based off of, the upcoming HBO documentary is just another unauthorized and salacious outsider attempt to paint an incomplete portrait of one of the greatest athletes of all-time,” Steinberg said.

Notice how weak it is, he doesn't actually refute anything. But the facts are the facts, so what else could he say?

You said he was offered the chance to be in the doc as if that makes anything better.

Let me make you an offer- I’m gonna make a documentary about your life (keep in mind that I know you just as well as the director of this BS knows Tiger). But I get final cut, I decide who else is interviewed, and I decide what’s off limits and what’s fair game to be discussed. Also if you have any kids, F them because I’m not considering them when I make this because let’s be honest, I’m chasing a dollar and don’t care about anything else.

Do we have a deal?

Come on...

The quote you pulled just speaks to the fact that Tiger has no desire to discuss this on everyone else’s terms. There’s nothing about that that says “we aren’t gonna refute anything.” It’s more like “this is my life and when I talk about it, if I talk about it, it will be on my terms”.

You said the facts are the facts like the entire story from all sides is out there. Tigers lack of participation simply means this documentary doesn’t contain all of the facts and perspectives.

I’m not saying that he didn’t cheat on his wife, he admitted to it publicly...
 
To pretend the Tiger doc covered the full scope of his rise, fall, and comeback would be silly.

So many ppl not interviewed. They went with a pretty straightforward surface level sensational take. Its pretty much no different than how the media covered it while it was happening.

Not saying there can ever be a doc that truly captures everything that went on but when I look at the Jordan doc where the cameras were around for the majority of his career even with Jordan having final say it covered a lot more and revealed a lot more we didn't know about.

A better Tiger doc definitely includes so.e Jordan and Barkley interviews, every single broad he banged, especially the porn stars, Elin interview, Tiger's mom (just so we get a closer feel for Tiger's dad, their parenting, etc.), and of course Tiger. Needed a deeper dive on Tiger and how he views his blackness as well.

It definitely would have more quotables and insight.
 
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Good luck on Tiger ever participating in something like that. Though it could only make him look good, because again, he didn't do anything crazy and he's happy in his ****ery.

I see they have Babylon 5 up and remastered, always wanted to check it out but it looked so stupid plus the terrible video quality.
 
Instead of bringing back BTAS (🐐 cartoon) they should really just pick up Batman Beyond. Really excited to see Judas and the Black Messiah though in a couple weeks.
 
Good luck on Tiger ever participating in something like that. Though it could only make him look good, because again, he didn't do anything crazy and he's happy in his ****ery.
I think we will eventually get Tiger being more candid about his dad, his youth, race and how he sees himself.

Probably never gonna get him truthful about falling in love with one ho after the other and how bad cheating on his wife was.

Maybe what went down during the car crash. Would be nice to see Elin admit she chased him with his own golf club and he ran and drove off scared still drowsy off some ambien :lol:
 
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Needed a deeper dive on Tiger and how he views his blackness as well.

The interesting part to me is he seemed "blacker" when he was younger. From the interviews in this and from interviews I saw previously when he was young. He mentioned being black, not canablasian or whatever he called himself.

Even his dad seemed well aware, and thought he could be a uniter and unifier. Which I found interesting.

It seemed like it was Tiger's decision to distance himself. Maybe he never felt he fit in, or because he didn't grow up around us. Maybe he didn't want the pressure, and just wanted to play golf.
 
Pretty much any "blackness" was feigned interest to please Earl who seemed bout it and hoped Tiger would help heal the world. Nope. Like said before when he called black people "the blacks" you can tell that wasn't in his interest.
 
The interesting part to me is he seemed "blacker" when he was younger. From the interviews in this and from interviews I saw previously when he was young. He mentioned being black, not canablasian or whatever he called himself.

Even his dad seemed well aware, and thought he could be a uniter and unifier. Which I found interesting.

It seemed like it was Tiger's decision to distance himself. Maybe he never felt he fit in, or because he didn't grow up around us. Maybe he didn't want the pressure, and just wanted to play golf.


I definitely think his relation to Black culture came from his dad (and rightly so Earl is black and he wanted Tiger to be the great Black Hope that flipped golf on its head).

Right before the scene in the doc where Tiger is speaking with Oprah and announces his race as Caublasian, Tiger is speaking about how he couldn't play at certain courses and how he was likely called the N word a ton growing up. If that didn't make him realize America will always see him as a black man no matter what his genetic make up may be, then honestly I don't know what will.

I know Earl put a ton of pressure on Tiger and he had many faults but helping his son to become greatest golfer ever and putting on for his race will never be villanized by me. I'm sure in many ways Tiger let Earl down and that's probably sti hard for him to deal with to this day.
 
Euphoria was solid. Strange a lot of time considering the premise of watching teens engaging in all of that stuff. The music selections were dope though.
 
Euphoria was solid. Strange a lot of time considering the premise of watching teens engaging in all of that stuff. The music selections were dope though.


Euphoria made me realize how different high school is now.

I know the show is focused on sexuality as a spectrum but it seems really cool to see the younger generation be so accepting of people that live a different lifestyle from their own.

15 years ago high school was very different and I couldn't even imagine how hard it would've been for a Jules.

I'm happy about alot of those changes society wise. The over indulgent drug **** is a lil scary but I know that's been around for a while too.
 
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