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Is it out yet?
tonight at 6 pacific, 9 eastern. Can’t wait. I think Jules is my favorite character.
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Is it out yet?
Actually yeah I rock with these 2My favorites on Euphoria are Fezco and Lexi.
Tiger documentary. Phenomenal.
Really enjoyed Flight Attendant. Kaley Cuoco really surprised me with her acting in that series.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Flight Attendant was good. I need to get on the Tiger documentary ASAP. Lots of folks are raving about it.
Tiger is good. It is no fluff piece either. What Last Dance could have been if Jordan's people didn't co-produce.
For the most part s1 was a bunch of episodes where they dedicated the main plot to one character. I want to say they covered like 6 or 7 characters and then had stuff from previous eps be subplots when they revisited certain characters. Then they just mixed things up to finish up.but not sure how a whole episode dedicated to Jules and maybe a few others would turn out.
Finished both parts of the Tiger Doc langfor5 Kinfolk M Mark Antony Ja's 2¢
I think they did as best they could without Tiger’s input. I would be curious to hear how y’all think it could have been better.
Thank you guys for pushing me to watch it
I hear you. It’s honestly tough for me to comment without knowing Tiger personally who his friends were/are, you know what I mean? Looking at his gf’s home videos and the accounts of how his folks treated him, he legit might not have had that many friends from his HS/Stanford days. He played in an individual sport and he was super competitive so didn’t rock with anyone else on the tour. He was always golfing or working out. And when he wasn’t doing that, he was doing the Navy stuff or with thotties/MJ and Barkley.“Best that they could” is far too generous.
There was very minimal effort put towards objectivity or getting more of his side of the story told.
Even if Tiger, Elin and Tiger’s mom were unwilling to contribute, that doesn’t give anybody license to go off the rails like they did and an effort could have been made to get perspectives from people that didn’t have an axe to grind.
An entertaining watch for sure, but when objectivity is intentionally absent, quality suffers greatly.
I hear you. It’s honestly tough for me to comment without knowing Tiger personally who his friends were/are, you know what I mean? Looking at his gf’s home videos and the accounts of how his folks treated him, he legit might not have had that many friends from his HS/Stanford days. He played in an individual sport and he was super competitive so didn’t rock with anyone else on the tour. He was always golfing or working out. And when he wasn’t doing that, he was doing the Navy stuff or with thotties/MJ and Barkley.
His pops and caddie were probably the two closest dues to him from when he was a young bol to the downfall (obviously his pops based before 2009 - RIP). And for him to cut the caddie off...dude whose wedding he was best man at...his Day 1...with NO hesitation...the pool to pick from might not have been that large to begin with.
I guess this is all to ask, realistically, what positive perspective (outside of him, Elin or Tida) do you think could have been added that might have added objectivity?
BTW - I come in peace. I’m not trying to argue, I’m just genuinely curious what you believe was missing.
True but the only person who could refute those specific claims would be Tiger or his agent. I guess this where the difference lies between The Last Dance, which some consider a fluff piece and this, which some consider a hit piece: The protagonist was involved in the former documentary but not the latter.Not even necessarily a positive perspective- but at a minimum more context than just running with “hi I was Tiger’s caddie for x amount of years. He dropped me without so much as a good phone call”.
Maybe the caddie had been rubbing Tiger the wrong way for a while leading up to that? Maybe Tiger did call but when Stevie picked up it wasn’t what he wanted to hear so in his view, it came out of the blue and he was blind sided?
Context is so important and never irrelevant.
Objectivity says that the caddie may be no more than a former disgruntled employee so he could very well be speaking from a place of absolute bitterness. Best man in his wedding or not, he was still an employee and working for a price.
I would hope that everyone has a hard time arriving at conclusions and making complete interpretations without hearing from Tiger on the matter.True but the only person who could refute those specific claims would be Tiger or his agent. I guess this where the difference lies between The Last Dance, which some consider a fluff piece and this, which some consider a hit piece: The protagonist was involved in the former documentary but not the latter.
When you choose not to speak or be involved you completely cede control of the narrative. At that point, every viewer is going assess the situation through their own personal perspective which often overshadows or obscures fact and truth and reality. It’s evident based on the fact that we’re even having this discussion. You and I watched the same documentary but because the only other parties that could have provided context declined to participate, it’s up to our own unique interpretations.
Yeah, it felt less like a documentary and more like an exposé. The way everything was presented was in the most sensational way possible. It definitely felt like everyone who was speaking had some kind of axe to grind with him, which made the whole thing feel kind of like a hit piece.“Best that they could” is far too generous.
There was very minimal effort put towards objectivity or getting more of his side of the story told.
Even if Tiger, Elin and Tiger’s mom were unwilling to contribute, that doesn’t give anybody license to go off the rails like they did and an effort could have been made to get perspectives from people that didn’t have an axe to grind.
An entertaining watch for sure, but when objectivity is intentionally absent, quality suffers greatly.