NBA Draft Thread 2011

[ex carrabba fan]

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

@kpelton Today on BBP, the most similar player statistically to virtually every NBA Draft prospect: http://bit.ly/mJnC7H (free)

Yikes.

Pretty much

I was expecting to be intrigued, not offended

 

[university of nike]

8  Jonas Valanciunas    Lietuvos Rytas    C    Dwight Howard      90.3

Wow.

 

[university of nike]

8  Jonas Valanciunas    Lietuvos Rytas    C    Dwight Howard      90.3

Wow.

 

[JD617]

[h1]A List Of People To Whom The Internet Has Compared Kyle Singler[/h1]
Tommy Craggs —

Some comparisons, culled from the Internet in advance of Kyle Singler's being drafted approximately one round too early tomorrow. Sic'd:

reminds me of mike miller

reminds me of a poor man's Mike Miller

reminds me of poor man Hedo with his abilty to get teammates involved

reminds me of Nocioni

reminds me of Andre Kirilenko

Reminds me of Adam Morrison (shooting ability) and Jared Dudley (Basketball IQ)

Reminds me of: Adam Morrison

reminds me of an uglier(yes its possible), less talented adam morrison

reminds me of Adam Morrison, with less perimeter skills

reminds me of Adam Morrison with more athleticism, he is that good

reminds me of luke [Walton]

reminds me of a more athletic/better shooting Luke Walton

reminds me of Luke Walton or maybe Francisco Garcia

reminds me of pre-injury Curtis Sumpter

reminds me of Joe Trapani

Reminds me of Laettner

reminds me of another former Duke player Danny Ferry

reminds me of a former Dukie, Josh McRoberts

reminds me of Shane Battier

reminds me of https://secure.scout.com/a.z?s=167&p=5&c=1&requestedurl=http%3a%2f%2fmbd.scout.com%2fmb.aspx%3fs%3d167%26f%3d3210%26t%3d3413106%26p%3d32]another that absolutely refused to lose. Mr. Shane Battier[/url]

reminds me of 81877085869703168[/MEDIA]]Mike Dunleavy

reminds me of http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=10480]Mike Dunleavy Jr. with responsibility. greater[/url]

reminds me of http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/3/13/2003190/is-it-too-early-to-think-draft-sure-but-why-not]a better, quicker mike dunleavy jr[/url]

reminds me of http://boards.kusports.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1357456&page=]the Dayman[/url]

reminds me of http://www.thefantasyninjas.com/?p=473]Russel Crowe's imaginary roommate in a beautiful mind…only uglier[/url]

reminds me of http://www.cappingthegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104652&page=33]something from some horror film[/url]

reminds me of http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?p=9093521]one of the monster/aliens from Space Jam[/url]

reminds me of 46362896220958720[/MEDIA]]a quicker dirk nowitzki

reminds me of http://ocregister.collegebasketball.upickem.net/collegebasketball/content/TeamMessages.asp?week=0&Page=32]a young Dirk Nowitski[/url]

reminds me of http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php/t-123014251.html]Dirk's less talented uglier %$+! little brother[/url]

reminds me of http://blackbuzz.blogspot.com/2010/04/is-kyle-singler-second-coming-of-larry.html]Larry Bird[/url]

reminds me of http://www.cockytalk.com/archive/index.php/t-123142.html]Bird the most[/url]

reminds me of http://www.locksmithsportspicks.com/college-basketball-power-rankings-12209/]Larry Bird the way he can do it all[/url]

reminds me of http://legend-nation.com/legend-talk/index.php?/archives/7-New-Poll-up!.html]a Poor Man's Larry Bird![/url]

reminds me of http://community.msgnetwork.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/55310655/m/402108172]a bigger version of John Havlicek[/url]

reminds me of http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=38053]that guy in your rec gym who looks like he's gonna suck because he's so ugly and he keeps scoring and you just want to punch him in the nuts while blocking out for a rebound[/url]

Reminds me of http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/college-basketball/33434-kyle-singler.html]Jimmy Chitwood (Hoosiers)[/url]

 

[JD617]

[h1]A List Of People To Whom The Internet Has Compared Kyle Singler[/h1]
Tommy Craggs —

Some comparisons, culled from the Internet in advance of Kyle Singler's being drafted approximately one round too early tomorrow. Sic'd:

reminds me of mike miller

reminds me of a poor man's Mike Miller

reminds me of poor man Hedo with his abilty to get teammates involved

reminds me of Nocioni

reminds me of Andre Kirilenko

Reminds me of Adam Morrison (shooting ability) and Jared Dudley (Basketball IQ)

Reminds me of: Adam Morrison

reminds me of an uglier(yes its possible), less talented adam morrison

reminds me of Adam Morrison, with less perimeter skills

reminds me of Adam Morrison with more athleticism, he is that good

reminds me of luke [Walton]

reminds me of a more athletic/better shooting Luke Walton

reminds me of Luke Walton or maybe Francisco Garcia

reminds me of pre-injury Curtis Sumpter

reminds me of Joe Trapani

Reminds me of Laettner

reminds me of another former Duke player Danny Ferry

reminds me of a former Dukie, Josh McRoberts

reminds me of Shane Battier

reminds me of https://secure.scout.com/a.z?s=167&p=5&c=1&requestedurl=http%3a%2f%2fmbd.scout.com%2fmb.aspx%3fs%3d167%26f%3d3210%26t%3d3413106%26p%3d32]another that absolutely refused to lose. Mr. Shane Battier[/url]

reminds me of 81877085869703168[/MEDIA]]Mike Dunleavy

reminds me of http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=10480]Mike Dunleavy Jr. with responsibility. greater[/url]

reminds me of http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/3/13/2003190/is-it-too-early-to-think-draft-sure-but-why-not]a better, quicker mike dunleavy jr[/url]

reminds me of http://boards.kusports.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1357456&page=]the Dayman[/url]

reminds me of http://www.thefantasyninjas.com/?p=473]Russel Crowe's imaginary roommate in a beautiful mind…only uglier[/url]

reminds me of http://www.cappingthegame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104652&page=33]something from some horror film[/url]

reminds me of http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?p=9093521]one of the monster/aliens from Space Jam[/url]

reminds me of 46362896220958720[/MEDIA]]a quicker dirk nowitzki

reminds me of http://ocregister.collegebasketball.upickem.net/collegebasketball/content/TeamMessages.asp?week=0&Page=32]a young Dirk Nowitski[/url]

reminds me of http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php/t-123014251.html]Dirk's less talented uglier %$+! little brother[/url]

reminds me of http://blackbuzz.blogspot.com/2010/04/is-kyle-singler-second-coming-of-larry.html]Larry Bird[/url]

reminds me of http://www.cockytalk.com/archive/index.php/t-123142.html]Bird the most[/url]

reminds me of http://www.locksmithsportspicks.com/college-basketball-power-rankings-12209/]Larry Bird the way he can do it all[/url]

reminds me of http://legend-nation.com/legend-talk/index.php?/archives/7-New-Poll-up!.html]a Poor Man's Larry Bird![/url]

reminds me of http://community.msgnetwork.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/55310655/m/402108172]a bigger version of John Havlicek[/url]

reminds me of http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=38053]that guy in your rec gym who looks like he's gonna suck because he's so ugly and he keeps scoring and you just want to punch him in the nuts while blocking out for a rebound[/url]

Reminds me of http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/college-basketball/33434-kyle-singler.html]Jimmy Chitwood (Hoosiers)[/url]

 

[the wizard]

pre-injury Curtis Sumpter, though?

Malta, Kyrie measured 6'3.5 at that combine with sneakers on, so I think that's why he tried to make that horrible comparison.

 

[the wizard]

pre-injury Curtis Sumpter, though?

Malta, Kyrie measured 6'3.5 at that combine with sneakers on, so I think that's why he tried to make that horrible comparison.

 

[nestasprotege]

Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

I wanted to stop reading after you alluded to Kyrie and Nolan in the backcourt together, as if that was comparable to Wall and Kyrie playing together.  Then I stopped reading completely when you mentioned Kyrie was 6'4" and had the size to guard both guard positions.  He's 6'2, kid.  He's guarding a 1 and that's it.

Two, Nolan was a combo guard and an excellent catch and shoot and off the dribble, hence why he was able to play as an undersized 2 next to Kyrie.  Neither Kyrie or Wall are 2 guards, not even in spot duty.  Kyrie excelled behind the 3 point line because of the ball movement and system K ran that allowed him open looks.  He's not going to give you buckets from the outside playing off the ball and we damn sure know what John's shot is like.  I honestly can't believe you brought that idea to the table, fam

My thoughts in my head didn't translate well to the keyboard

. I meant Wall being 6 foot 4 and them, in tandem, not having a problem guarding any 1-2 in the league. You're telling me Wall and Kyrie couldn't guard Wade and Chalmers or Barea/Stevenson and Kidd? I still think he's 6 foot 4 though.

I completely disagree with your assessment of Kyrie and the NBA in general. How can you watch the NBA finals and see Kidd/Barea have so much success and not think Wall/Kyrie could do the same? Kyrie can get to the hoop and shoot. Wall can get to the hoop and pass. In my opinion Kyrie and Wall would flourish playing with each other because they would force each other to do what they do well, and ONLY what they do well. Wall can't shoot a lick from 3, and Kyrie is NOT a pass first point guard. Together they would be perfect, especially when you take into account what is currently successful in the NBA. If Felton and Lawson can get minutes together, Wall and Kyrie can do the same.

I hope the Cavs don't think Kyrie Irving is going to be the next Chris Paul. He is a mediocre passer at best.

 

[nestasprotege]

Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

I wanted to stop reading after you alluded to Kyrie and Nolan in the backcourt together, as if that was comparable to Wall and Kyrie playing together.  Then I stopped reading completely when you mentioned Kyrie was 6'4" and had the size to guard both guard positions.  He's 6'2, kid.  He's guarding a 1 and that's it.

Two, Nolan was a combo guard and an excellent catch and shoot and off the dribble, hence why he was able to play as an undersized 2 next to Kyrie.  Neither Kyrie or Wall are 2 guards, not even in spot duty.  Kyrie excelled behind the 3 point line because of the ball movement and system K ran that allowed him open looks.  He's not going to give you buckets from the outside playing off the ball and we damn sure know what John's shot is like.  I honestly can't believe you brought that idea to the table, fam

My thoughts in my head didn't translate well to the keyboard

. I meant Wall being 6 foot 4 and them, in tandem, not having a problem guarding any 1-2 in the league. You're telling me Wall and Kyrie couldn't guard Wade and Chalmers or Barea/Stevenson and Kidd? I still think he's 6 foot 4 though.

I completely disagree with your assessment of Kyrie and the NBA in general. How can you watch the NBA finals and see Kidd/Barea have so much success and not think Wall/Kyrie could do the same? Kyrie can get to the hoop and shoot. Wall can get to the hoop and pass. In my opinion Kyrie and Wall would flourish playing with each other because they would force each other to do what they do well, and ONLY what they do well. Wall can't shoot a lick from 3, and Kyrie is NOT a pass first point guard. Together they would be perfect, especially when you take into account what is currently successful in the NBA. If Felton and Lawson can get minutes together, Wall and Kyrie can do the same.

I hope the Cavs don't think Kyrie Irving is going to be the next Chris Paul. He is a mediocre passer at best.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

He is a mediocre passer at best.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

He is a mediocre passer at best.

 

[doublejs07]

Son said Jimmy Chitwood

 

[doublejs07]

Son said Jimmy Chitwood

 

[hood17]

space jam monster 

 

[hood17]

space jam monster 

 

[ricardo malta]

Originally Posted by nestasprotege

Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

I wanted to stop reading after you alluded to Kyrie and Nolan in the backcourt together, as if that was comparable to Wall and Kyrie playing together.  Then I stopped reading completely when you mentioned Kyrie was 6'4" and had the size to guard both guard positions.  He's 6'2, kid.  He's guarding a 1 and that's it.

Two, Nolan was a combo guard and an excellent catch and shoot and off the dribble, hence why he was able to play as an undersized 2 next to Kyrie.  Neither Kyrie or Wall are 2 guards, not even in spot duty.  Kyrie excelled behind the 3 point line because of the ball movement and system K ran that allowed him open looks.  He's not going to give you buckets from the outside playing off the ball and we damn sure know what John's shot is like.  I honestly can't believe you brought that idea to the table, fam

My thoughts in my head didn't translate well to the keyboard

. I meant Wall being 6 foot 4 and them, in tandem, not having a problem guarding any 1-2 in the league. You're telling me Wall and Kyrie couldn't guard Wade and Chalmers or Barea/Stevenson and Kidd? I still think he's 6 foot 4 though.

I completely disagree with your assessment of Kyrie and the NBA in general. How can you watch the NBA finals and see Kidd/Barea have so much success and not think Wall/Kyrie could do the same? Kyrie can get to the hoop and shoot. Wall can get to the hoop and pass. In my opinion Kyrie and Wall would flourish playing with each other because they would force each other to do what they do well, and ONLY what they do well. Wall can't shoot a lick from 3, and Kyrie is NOT a pass first point guard. Together they would be perfect, especially when you take into account what is currently successful in the NBA. If Felton and Lawson can get minutes together, Wall and Kyrie can do the same.

I hope the Cavs don't think Kyrie Irving is going to be the next Chris Paul. He is a mediocre passer at best.

I think you're wrong about Kyrie not being a pass first point guard.  He was a scorer at Duke because the opportunities were there.  Did you not see how many weapons that squad had, especially from outside?  Opened up the lane like the Red Sea for Kyrie. 

And you gotta understand, Kidd and Barea were outside threats, one area Wall and Kyrie, to a certain degree, are not.  On the other side of the ball you really think they would be able to lock up Wade and Chalmers?  The reason Kidd and Barea looked serviceable on D was because the help D coming from the likes of Stephenson, Chandler, and Matrix.  Wall and Kyrie would get murked trying to contain those two, more so Wade. 

Quite frankly, Wall and Kyrie aren't efficiently playing off the ball.  They both need to be the main facilitators to be successful.  They're not Wade and Lebron who've been in the league for 8 years and have the experience to adapt.  You put a ball dominant rookie PG and ball dominant 2nd year PG in the same backcourt and it'll stunt both their growths.

 

[ricardo malta]

Originally Posted by nestasprotege

Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

I wanted to stop reading after you alluded to Kyrie and Nolan in the backcourt together, as if that was comparable to Wall and Kyrie playing together.  Then I stopped reading completely when you mentioned Kyrie was 6'4" and had the size to guard both guard positions.  He's 6'2, kid.  He's guarding a 1 and that's it.

Two, Nolan was a combo guard and an excellent catch and shoot and off the dribble, hence why he was able to play as an undersized 2 next to Kyrie.  Neither Kyrie or Wall are 2 guards, not even in spot duty.  Kyrie excelled behind the 3 point line because of the ball movement and system K ran that allowed him open looks.  He's not going to give you buckets from the outside playing off the ball and we damn sure know what John's shot is like.  I honestly can't believe you brought that idea to the table, fam

My thoughts in my head didn't translate well to the keyboard

. I meant Wall being 6 foot 4 and them, in tandem, not having a problem guarding any 1-2 in the league. You're telling me Wall and Kyrie couldn't guard Wade and Chalmers or Barea/Stevenson and Kidd? I still think he's 6 foot 4 though.

I completely disagree with your assessment of Kyrie and the NBA in general. How can you watch the NBA finals and see Kidd/Barea have so much success and not think Wall/Kyrie could do the same? Kyrie can get to the hoop and shoot. Wall can get to the hoop and pass. In my opinion Kyrie and Wall would flourish playing with each other because they would force each other to do what they do well, and ONLY what they do well. Wall can't shoot a lick from 3, and Kyrie is NOT a pass first point guard. Together they would be perfect, especially when you take into account what is currently successful in the NBA. If Felton and Lawson can get minutes together, Wall and Kyrie can do the same.

I hope the Cavs don't think Kyrie Irving is going to be the next Chris Paul. He is a mediocre passer at best.

I think you're wrong about Kyrie not being a pass first point guard.  He was a scorer at Duke because the opportunities were there.  Did you not see how many weapons that squad had, especially from outside?  Opened up the lane like the Red Sea for Kyrie. 

And you gotta understand, Kidd and Barea were outside threats, one area Wall and Kyrie, to a certain degree, are not.  On the other side of the ball you really think they would be able to lock up Wade and Chalmers?  The reason Kidd and Barea looked serviceable on D was because the help D coming from the likes of Stephenson, Chandler, and Matrix.  Wall and Kyrie would get murked trying to contain those two, more so Wade. 

Quite frankly, Wall and Kyrie aren't efficiently playing off the ball.  They both need to be the main facilitators to be successful.  They're not Wade and Lebron who've been in the league for 8 years and have the experience to adapt.  You put a ball dominant rookie PG and ball dominant 2nd year PG in the same backcourt and it'll stunt both their growths.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

I think you're wrong about Kyrie not being a pass first point guard.  He was a scorer at Duke because the opportunities were there.  Did you not see how many weapons that squad had, especially from outside?  Opened up the lane like the Red Sea for Kyrie. 

And you gotta understand, Kidd and Barea were outside threats, one area Wall and Kyrie, to a certain degree, are not.  On the other side of the ball you really think they would be able to lock up Wade and Chalmers?  The reason Kidd and Barea looked serviceable on D was because the help D coming from the likes of Stephenson, Chandler, and Matrix.  Wall and Kyrie would get murked trying to contain those two, more so Wade. 

Quite frankly, Wall and Kyrie aren't efficiently playing off the ball.  They both need to be the main facilitators to be successful.  They're not Wade and Lebron who've been in the league for 8 years and have the experience to adapt.  You put a ball dominant rookie PG and ball dominant 2nd year PG in the same backcourt and it'll stunt both their growths.


This.
Barea and Kidd play well together because Kidd can settle in as a spot up shooter. Heck half the time he wasn't even facilitating the offense. Barea works well without the ball cuz he just runs around the court in circles cutting and slashing.

Wall and Kyrie need  the ball.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

I think you're wrong about Kyrie not being a pass first point guard.  He was a scorer at Duke because the opportunities were there.  Did you not see how many weapons that squad had, especially from outside?  Opened up the lane like the Red Sea for Kyrie. 

And you gotta understand, Kidd and Barea were outside threats, one area Wall and Kyrie, to a certain degree, are not.  On the other side of the ball you really think they would be able to lock up Wade and Chalmers?  The reason Kidd and Barea looked serviceable on D was because the help D coming from the likes of Stephenson, Chandler, and Matrix.  Wall and Kyrie would get murked trying to contain those two, more so Wade. 

Quite frankly, Wall and Kyrie aren't efficiently playing off the ball.  They both need to be the main facilitators to be successful.  They're not Wade and Lebron who've been in the league for 8 years and have the experience to adapt.  You put a ball dominant rookie PG and ball dominant 2nd year PG in the same backcourt and it'll stunt both their growths.


This.
Barea and Kidd play well together because Kidd can settle in as a spot up shooter. Heck half the time he wasn't even facilitating the offense. Barea works well without the ball cuz he just runs around the court in circles cutting and slashing.

Wall and Kyrie need  the ball.

 

[ValarMorghulis]

why yall arguing this?

'01 Draft on

Chuck tho

 

[ValarMorghulis]

why yall arguing this?

'01 Draft on

Chuck tho

 

[pmatic]

@DraftExpress NBA sources say San Antonio has offered George Hill to Bucks (#10), GSWs (#11) and Utah (#12) in exchange for their pick.

 

[andoneflip]

i hope its a good draft tomorrow

 

[andoneflip]

i hope its a good draft tomorrow

 

[pmatic]

@DraftExpress NBA sources say San Antonio has offered George Hill to Bucks (#10), GSWs (#11) and Utah (#12) in exchange for their pick.