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Nothing like a little victim-blaming to kickstart the day.
NBC employee claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room.
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Is it victim blaming or promoting vigilance and protecting yourself? Of course you tell the men to not be overly aggressive stop when she says stop as well, but there's nothing wrong with telling someone to not get blackout dunk bc not all men will follow the rules. Criminals will always exist.
Kinda unrelated, but the women who say stop but really mean 'keep going' make situations really difficult for everyone.
Kinda unrelated, but the women who say stop but really mean 'keep going' make situations really difficult for everyone.
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Yep. Still victim-blaming.
Was Geraldo promoting vigilance and protecting yourself when he told young black men to not wear hoodies in the wake of Trayvon Martin’s murder?
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Well again, is this the thread to talk about this? Is this the basis people want their argument to sit on? It’s like people who go into the people dead from gun violence dead and promote having more guns. Gotta read the room better than that if anything at all
And when it comes to sexual things, sorry but anyone can say no whenever they wants. This is just the “well you wore what you wore” argument.
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I feel like this was something that would happen when WE were younger. I don’t think younger girls are doing this anymore. At least I hope not.
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If i go to a crime infested hood flaunting gold chains, diamond rings and counting thousands of dollars wearing expensive clothes... Do you think I'll get robbed?
Do you think I 'asked for it'?
Do i have the right to wear what I want to wear and count my hard earned money in peace? Yes! Is it smart to not be vigilant?
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Did you not read what i posted. Do you not see where it says men should STOP WHEN SHE SAYS STOP? or did you just overlook that?
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Did you comprehend anything I typed or did you look over all of it to save face? Bill cosby really got y’all acting funny. Y’all must of loved the show a lot. That or ghost dad
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Blah blah, if you wear a hoodie and hold a toy gun should you expect to get shot? *oh but that’s different meme* right?
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Thats literally victim blaming....
funny you never hear about people telling men they should watch how much they drink because they might get raped...
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This guy
Why do we always run to false dilemmas in this thread?
A false dilemma, also referred to as false dichotomy, is an informal fallacy based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise.
If one cant wrap their mind around the fact that saying:
"when you drink alcohol you leave yourself open to assault or rape"
is entirely different than saying:
"when you drink alcohol you deserve to be assaulted or raped"
then that says more about you than either "personal responsibility" or "victim blaming" ever will.
You lack understanding, maturity, and reasoning skills.
BOTH things are true.
Nobody "deserves" to be raped.
Nobody is exempt from personal responsibility (accountability).
Sheesh!
I swear if it wasn't for logical fallacies some folks would have nothing to say.
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I think the problem is moreso that it goes without saying and is a pretty tasteless thing to say given the context. Also fails to take into account that Cosby was allegedly drugging women without their knowledge, so being intoxicated really doesn't have much to do with this date rape scenario, but why bother putting anything into context when you can just autistically adhere to logical principles?
Why do we always run to false dilemmas in this thread?
A false dilemma, also referred to as false dichotomy, is an informal fallacy based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise.
If one cant wrap their mind around the fact that saying:
"when you drink alcohol you leave yourself open to assault or rape"
is entirely different than saying:
"when you drink alcohol you deserve to be assaulted or raped"
then that says more about you than either "personal responsibility" or "victim blaming" ever will.
You lack understanding, maturity, and reasoning skills.
BOTH things are true.
Nobody "deserves" to be raped.
Nobody is exempt from personal responsibility (accountability).
Sheesh!
I swear if it wasn't for logical fallacies some folks would have nothing to say.
We all know the importance of personal responsibility, but I don't think that should be the primary focus in cases where someone is victimized.
Cool mid-2000s stock photo though, and stop plagiarizing your lectures from wikipedia!
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Naw, let’s keep this within the context of this thread. When is it ok to rape someone using this logic? Let’s just get right into it
Why do we always run to false dilemmas in this thread?
A false dilemma, also referred to as false dichotomy, is an informal fallacy based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise.
If one cant wrap their mind around the fact that saying:
"when you drink alcohol you leave yourself open to assault or rape"
is entirely different than saying:
"when you drink alcohol you deserve to be assaulted or raped"
then that says more about you than either "personal responsibility" or "victim blaming" ever will.
You lack understanding, maturity, and reasoning skills.
BOTH things are true.
Nobody "deserves" to be raped.
Nobody is exempt from personal responsibility (accountability).
Sheesh!
I swear if it wasn't for logical fallacies some folks would have nothing to say.
when is it the females fault Cosby did what he did?
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Damn, dudes really started their day victim-blaming rape victims
Sad
Sad
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I’ll also take this time to remind everyone of the peeping toms we have on NT
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Sound familiar?
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THANK YOU!!
Why do we always run to false dilemmas in this thread?
A false dilemma, also referred to as false dichotomy, is an informal fallacy based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise.
If one cant wrap their mind around the fact that saying:
"when you drink alcohol you leave yourself open to assault or rape"
is entirely different than saying:
"when you drink alcohol you deserve to be assaulted or raped"
then that says more about you than either "personal responsibility" or "victim blaming" ever will.
You lack understanding, maturity, and reasoning skills.
BOTH things are true.
Nobody "deserves" to be raped.
Nobody is exempt from personal responsibility (accountability).
Sheesh!
I swear if it wasn't for logical fallacies some folks would have nothing to say.
NO ONE IS BLAMING THE VICTIM. THE CRIMINAL IS ALWAYS AT FAULT.
Essentially, all we're saying is Don't leave your windows open bc burglars will take advantage.
It's always the burglar that's at fault but the homeowner could have prevented it by being vigilant. It's not the homeowners fault, but he could have prevented it.
Goodness.
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My final thoughts:
There will always be criminals. Period. You can either make it EASIER for them or HARDER for them.
Your choice.
There will always be criminals. Period. You can either make it EASIER for them or HARDER for them.
Your choice.
THANK YOU!!
NO ONE IS BLAMING THE VICTIM. THE CRIMINAL IS ALWAYS AT FAULT.
Essentially, all we're saying is Don't leave your windows open bc burglars will take advantage.
It's always the burglar that's at fault but the homeowner could have prevented it by being vigilant. It's not the homeowners fault, but he could have prevented it.
Goodness.
Nah Fam - We Andy Dufresne in a thread full of Warden Norton's
They aint interested in facts / truth...only narratives / agendas.
Dont you mention "personal responsibility" to me again!
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Amen. #ditchthehoodie #justcomply #shouldn'thaveresisted
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LOL look at the walking back of the arguments taking place. “All I’m say is….” Naw, that wasn’t why things were being argued in here. ALSO keep it within the context of rape, which is what we are arguing to begin with. Bunch of cop out statements. Weak
