New York Yankees Official Thread - vs Mets; 60-42 - Let’s Make a Deal

[donewithjs]

Gary can get a multi hit game every 15 games and the Gary lovers come running out saying he’s breaking out of his slump and then immediately goes back into same slump He Does not belong on an MLB roster.

 

[YouGotThese]

Can’t stand Gary Sanchez. Hopefully he’s not on the team next year. He’s very Melky Cabrera-like at the plate

 

[Hahahaha]

You got a pitcher up there that is about to **** himself and y’all fail. What a bunch of losers.

77 gets a break, he had a couple bogus outside the zone strikes.

24 goes up there and swings at everything, literally everything. Should have sent 66 up for him.

99 gets hosed on that first K, it was wide. Then the check swing looked like he checked it but whatever. 99 has to do better.


Do me a ****in favor. Put Boone, Happ and Gary on a plane and send them ****in packing. And ****in fire that POS CB for that ******** game he called today.

 

[donewithjs]

Dropped strikes, passed balls, guy is straight trash

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Gary Sanchez doesn't strike me as a World Series winning catcher.

 

[donewithjs]

Gary Sanchez doesn't strike me as a World Series winning catcher.

You’re not winning a WS with him catching or DHing.

 

[pauliepeppas]

Sanchez is such a dog....Higgy better play rest of series

 

[jaysonny3]

Lost the game in 2nd inning; should have left Delvi for at least 1 time around the order with the intention of him not giving up more than 3-4 runs - may have lasted 4 innings then go to the pen with your mop up guys if down. Judge looks lost at the plate besides his HRs (2) which equal his hits hasn’t done much. Buckner strike zone was worse than angel hernandez. tired of seeing people hit .180 and hit meaningful hrs in the post season - just get them out. Chad green will probably be the opener with whatever bullpen they have left for game 4.

 

[アミーゴ]

Lets take a step back and get ready for tomorrow - no point in being negative it’s over and done with

 

[jrp44]

Feel like Tanaka will give us a good game tomorrow

 

[essential1]

We go through this every time. Gary can hit .180 all year and still be better than all but a few Catchers offensively. It was that way in 2018 and wasn’t far off in 2020.
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2016, 2017 and 2019 he was top 2-3 offensive catchers.

Passed balls are a largely irrelevant part of a baseball game, and inevitable. The separation of a average versus elite catcher is maybe an extra 5 passed balls in 800 innings. Off the top of your head or even looking it up, can you find 5 games in the last 4 seasons where Gary’s passed balls actively cost the Yankees a win?

Among catchers:
2018, he hit .186 was 9th in RBIs, in significantly less at bats than the guys ahead of him due to injuries. 6th in HRs. 6th in Runs.
This year .146 9th in RBIs, 12th in Runs. And the separation between 4th and where he was at was 4 RBIs and 4 runs due to the small sample size.

He calls a solid game, and can frame pitches. To top it off can have an objectively horrific year at the plate and still be in the top 3rd of catchers production on offense with a small sample size.

Furthermore, Gary is making good contact on the ball, 4th in hard contact among catchers, and within 1-2 percentage points of the 3guys ahead of him in hard contact when it comes to medium contact.
Gary also statistically is one of the most unlucky players offensively as well. See his batting average versus BABIP is roughly within 10-15 points. The vast majority of other catcher’s BABIP is 40-50-60-70 points higher than their average. That is a luck thing. Gary had 16 or 18 balls batted over 100mph for outs this year (156 at bats). 2019, expected batting average for balls hit 100 mph is .491

He had the 35th highest average exit velo at 91.6. 36th and 37th were Gio and DJ. Expected BA for 92mph exit velo is .262
8th % of barrels on batted ball events in the league.

Gary is largely an unlucky player, stat after stat every year bears that out.
And even being unlucky. Even with 2 really bad seasons at the plate, still kept pace with the leaders in his position.

If you go after Realmuto in the off-season. I’m good with it. That’s fine. He’s the better all around player. And made that separation this season.
But if you don’t, Higashioka is not a better player, and never will be.

Also there were multiple Yankees in the offense with really bad games tonight.

 

[donewithjs]

We go through this every time. Gary can hit .180 all year and still be better than all but a few Catchers offensively. It was that way in 2018 and wasn’t far off in 2020.
.
2016, 2017 and 2019 he was top 2-3 offensive catchers.

Passed balls are a largely irrelevant part of a baseball game, and inevitable. The separation of a average versus elite catcher is maybe an extra 5 passed balls in 800 innings. Off the top of your head or even looking it up, can you find 5 games in the last 4 seasons where Gary’s passed balls actively cost the Yankees a win?

Among catchers:
2018, he hit .186 was 9th in RBIs, in significantly less at bats than the guys ahead of him due to injuries. 6th in HRs. 6th in Runs.
This year .146 9th in RBIs, 12th in Runs. And the separation between 4th and where he was at was 4 RBIs and 4 runs due to the small sample size.

He calls a solid game, and can frame pitches. To top it off can have an objectively horrific year at the plate and still be in the top 3rd of catchers production on offense with a small sample size.

Furthermore, Gary is making good contact on the ball, 4th in hard contact among catchers, and within 1-2 percentage points of the 3guys ahead of him in hard contact when it comes to medium contact.
Gary also statistically is one of the most unlucky players offensively as well. See his batting average versus BABIP is roughly within 10-15 points. The vast majority of other catcher’s BABIP is 40-50-60-70 points higher than their average. That is a luck thing. Gary had 16 or 18 balls batted over 100mph for outs this year (156 at bats). 2019, expected batting average for balls hit 100 mph is .491

He had the 35th highest average exit velo at 91.6. 36th and 37th were Gio and DJ. Expected BA for 92mph exit velo is .262
8th % of barrels on batted ball events in the league.

Gary is largely an unlucky player, stat after stat every year bears that out.
And even being unlucky. Even with 2 really bad seasons at the plate, still kept pace with the leaders in his position.

If you go after Realmuto in the off-season. I’m good with it. That’s fine. He’s the better all around player. And made that separation this season.
But if you don’t, Higashioka is not a better player, and never will be.

Also there were multiple Yankees in the offense with really bad games tonight.

You can literally take any catcher in Major League Baseball and put him in the Yankees lineup with all that protection and they’d be one of the top offensive catchers in the Game. If you put Gary on a team without a Monster lineup he wouldn’t even be in the Majors at this point. Who gives a **** how hard he hits the ball when he makes contact? That’s irrelevant. He literally had a passed ball to put a runner in scoring position last night when we were only down a run, lucky we got out of it. He dropped a borderline called strike 3 that the ump could’ve went either way with and who knows what happens next. Once again Johnny Jerkoff from the Bar can hit the Ball really really hard WHEN he makes contact so exit velocity is overrated.

 

[donewithjs]

And I’m going to keep saying it. If Gary didn’t have the protection of the Yankees lineup he wouldn’t be in the Majors anymore. And when he doesn’t have the protection shouldn’t he see more garbage pitches and his OBP be higher? So only Gary has bad luck most of the time because he hits the ball hard *****.One of the best pitchers in Baseball prefers not to pitch to him and I’m waiting for the argument that they know each other

 

[donewithjs]

If you hit the ball hard and don’t get a hit it’s called bad luck . You really might be Gary Sanchez fam

 

[jrod54life]

ya do know this game coulda gone either way the two big issues were J HApp and the umpire. the rays pitcher in the 7/8 was wild as hell and the umpire kept calling strikes on balls even the tbs announcers were saying they were deff balls no where near the strike zone

 

[essential1]

If you hit the ball hard and don’t get a hit it’s called bad luck . You really might be Gary Sanchez fam

Actually yes. Yes it is. The harder you hit the ball, the higher your expected batting average on each individual event is, and more likely that that hard hit leads to the guy reaching safely.

Again 10% of his at bats were 100mph contacts that led to outs. Expected batting average on any ball hit 100mph is .491

Definition of bad luck.

 

[essential1]

It’s also the reason Gary was significantly better than Austin Romine when Romine was the backup for 3 years.

And why 2017-2019, Gary had the same production as Realmuto in 100 less games.

Again, this year has been ****. But Gary has consistently been unlucky his entire career hitting. And even then, still providing similar stats to the top 3rd of catchers this year.

 

[g-time]

it kind of feels like he's putting the blame of last night on Gary, which that loss wasn't on him. team struck out 18 times.

 

[nick.]

it kind of feels like he's putting the blame of last night on Gary, which that loss wasn't on him. team struck out 18 times.

If it has to be pinned on anyone, it's on Happ, Ottavino, & Loaisiga. They didn't do their job. Five runs should be enough to win.


As far as Gary, he hits the ball hard but what good does it do if it's on the ground into the shift? I'd need to see numbers but from the eye test, it doesn't seem like he's getting many balls into the air. He also isn't walking enough to have a respectable OBP.

 

[yankeesking92]

Sanchez sucks, Boone is horrendous, and Happ should never have worn the pin stripes to begin with.

 

[g-time]

If it has to be pinned on anyone, it's on Happ, Ottavino, & Loaisiga. They didn't do their job. Five runs should be enough to win.


As far as Gary, he hits the ball hard but what good does it do if it's on the ground into the shift? I'd need to see numbers but from the eye test, it doesn't seem like he's getting many balls into the air. He also isn't walking enough to have a respectable OBP.

Most definitely those guys. Kind of feel Garcia should of went back out for the 2nd.

Sanchez definitely needs to be patient and have a better eye at the plate. He's too much of a free swinger.

 

[donewithjs]

it kind of feels like he's putting the blame of last night on Gary, which that loss wasn't on him. team struck out 18 times.

No where did I say the loss is on Gary, but if he’s a negative a majority of nights he doesn’t help at all. Why not go with odds, and odds are Gary is going to play bad. The team struck out 18 times but on most nights they come through, can’t say the same about Gary.

 

[essential1]

If it has to be pinned on anyone, it's on Happ, Ottavino, & Loaisiga. They didn't do their job. Five runs should be enough to win.


As far as Gary, he hits the ball hard but what good does it do if it's on the ground into the shift? I'd need to see numbers but from the eye test, it doesn't seem like he's getting many balls into the air. He also isn't walking enough to have a respectable OBP.

Agreed on part 1.

Part 2 - But at the same time. Higgy doesn’t walk at all. And with the exception of an uncharacteristic game where he hits 3 Homeruns, he’s no more than John Ryan Murphy at bat.

 

[nick.]

Agreed on part 1.

Part 2 - But at the same time. Higgy doesn’t walk at all. And with the exception of an uncharacteristic game where he hits 3 Homeruns, he’s no more than John Ryan Murphy at bat.

I don't think Higgy is the answer at the position either. But our $300M pitcher wants him to catch his starts so he's at least the #2 catcher for the forseeable future.

 

[donewithjs]

Agreed on part 1.

Part 2 - But at the same time. Gary really doesn’t walk at all. And swings at garbage And with the exception of an uncharacteristic game where he gets 2 hits he’s no more than A single A player at bat.

Fixed.