NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[651akathepaul]

Hey, Duece. How's it going, champ?

I'm doing good champ.  Not sure if you saw or not but I actually gave you dudes at shot out in the Week in Review thread.  Don't want you to think I'm always against you dudes .

Good to hear.

And I did. Appreciate it. My dudes fought tough despite blowing a huge lead.

 

[madj55]

^ I'm not sure of you're ******** on my Giants or the Red Skins?

The Navajo segment was disgusting. I couldn't believe that.

I think Kaep has a lot of potential. For some reason he looks scared though. He's been disappointing this year for sure.

I got ******* on last year for saying Red Skins were a bad team and had a lucky run like Tebow did in Denver. I would play Cousins but that's just me.

Are you from the 703? If so, nothing you say about the Skins is objective and can be taken seriously. It's just out of hate for the team getting so much love and hype around the area even though we constantly suck year in and year out. Just like all the other NFC East fans that live in the DMV.

 

[madj55]

I'll be right here. 

I'll be rooting for him, but to call RG3 a gimmick QB when he's the same player that your QB is is laughable. Kaep looked competent against a very bad defense. We'll see if he can keep it up.

 

[larrydavid1]

Y'all can laugh at champ all y'all want to but he's right about the Navajo part

Damn shame

I think I'm glad I missed it

Likewise.

 

[jayfiend]

So because I was talking trash and said the Skins were going 11-5 I don't know football?

Trust me I'm 29 years old. Old enough to know never to beat on the Washington ********... I know what my team is. But I also like to take trash no matter how good or bad the skins are.

Kaep is trash. Just plays on a very good team.
He won't be around in 3 years. SF was just desperate for a Alex Smith replacement and went with the young kid that got hot. Kaep is not a Frachise QB.

I've been saying it since that draft. Luck is the type if QB you want to have. Not Wilson, RG3, or Kaep (yes I know he wasn't in that draft)

As much as I love the Skins QBs like those guys don't win Superbowls.

 

[651akathepaul]

C'mon Jay...Kaep has his definicies and areas that need improvement like all young QB's, but I wouldn't go even remotely close enough to saying he's trash. Lots of good in there for him to still have ample opportunity at being a very good quarterback.

 

[jpzx]

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter
THIS JUST IN: Eagles coach Chip Kelly names Nick Foles team's starting QB for rest of season.

He probably doesn't deserve it, but Mike Vick will get one more chance with another team in 2014. Guaranteed.

Probably a team that doesn't luck out in the draft trying to find "that guy" and has to put off finding the future, so Vick will be their short-term placeholder.

 

[651akathepaul]

^Sounds like a Vikings move.

And LOL at Sportcenters breaking news. "This just in." Oh, ESPN.

 

[jayfiend]

651akathepaul my apologies I always use the word trash. but I don't mean he's like the worst player ever. Just that he's nothing more than maybe a little above average. Last year he seemed a lot more confident I haven't really seen that this year.

 

[651akathepaul]

651akathepaul my apologies I always use the word trash. but I don't mean he's like the worst player ever. Just that he's nothing more than maybe a little above average. Last year he seemed a lot more confident I haven't really seen that this year.

No apologies needed, my friend.

Just lookin' out for ya in case a year or two down the road someone quotes you and you get bludgeoned to death by mad posters.

I always try to not stretch my sentiments on here, because a lot of the heat of the moment word usage turns into an extreme that wasn't my intent.

 

[deuce king]

So because I was talking trash and said the Skins were going 11-5 I don't know football?
 

Never said you don't know football and that was not the point I was trying to make.  You said Kaep was trash last year, just like you said the Skins would do no worse than 11-5 this year.  As it currently stands you are incorrect in your predictions, at least for 1 of them that's for sure. 

Kaep is trash. Just plays on a very good team.
He won't be around in 3 years. SF was just desperate for a Alex Smith replacement and went with the young kid that got hot. Kaep is not a Frachise QB.

I've been saying it since that draft. Luck is the type if QB you want to have. Not Wilson, RG3, or Kaep (yes I know he wasn't in that draft)

As much as I love the Skins QBs like those guys don't win Superbowls.

Here we go again with the proclamations and predictions.  Haven't you learned yet??  As far as the other QB's you used in comparison with Luck, I won't even get into that for now.  I'll just say that each and everyone of those young QB's including Luck appears to be working out okay for the individual team they are on.  Let the chips fall where they may from here on out for all of them. 

 

[jayfiend]

Yea your right Duece I should really watch what I say and how I say it. I should keep trash talk and predictions separate.

And honestly In the long run I will go with luck over everybody tho. I love the traditional QB. He's the type of QB that I've seen win Super Bowls all my life. Speaking of that....

When is the last time a mobile QB win the Super Bowl. And I'm talking Run first type QB. Big Ben? Even tho I wouldn't exactly say he's run first.

Brady
Brees
Peyton
Eli
Big Ben
Dilfer
Rodgers
Brad Johnson

That's all of them since 2000 right?

None of them exactly run first.

That's why I don't really trust the RG3 and all the other guys I've mentioned. The Pocket Passer usually gets the ring.

 

[lyonbc1]

@Edwerderespn: Browner suspension is 8th since 2010 for Pete Carroll team. Imagine hysteria if this were Cowboys, Eagles, Jets, Giants, Saints, Pats?"

Accurate.

Lmaoooo

 

[Peep Game]

LOL

 

[jayfiend]

And another thing, everybody is ready to crucify the shanahans. Simply ignoring the fact that the skins Roster is trash. What coach can win with this Roster?

If anything it shows the job they did last year was simply amazing.

But with RG3 slowing down and teams not being afraid he's going to run they have to make some adjustments, it just can't be this year. They don't think people understand how bad that oline is. Tyler Polumbus is probably the worst RT in the L. Trent is the only one worth taking about.

And for an offense that struggling it's hard to get going when your down damn near 21 before the 1st quarter is over.

Just look at the facts. Before you go pointing the finger. That's all I'm saying.

 

[100027]

Lmaoooo

yes.

 

[Peep Game]

While that may be true, Shanahan still thinks he's in '98, and has done all but said "Robert, I'm trying to get you killed out there, cause I like Cousins more"

 

[larrydavid1]

So because I was talking trash and said the Skins were going 11-5 I don't know football?

Trust me I'm 29 years old.

To answer your question, no, based off 95% of your statements in here you don't know football.

An don't try an backtrack your original statement either, at first you were saying the RedBums would go 14-2/13-3...
When you started to get flammed you gave us a run down of your schedule and predicted W's/L's, it was only then that you said "aight... aight... 11-5 AT WORST."

Little did you know, you'll be lucky to see 5-11, scrub.

 

[xxnamebrandxx]

The 9ers needed that win to get in sync again. Still, the play calling needs to be relayed quicker. This keeps the tempo and rhythm up on offense, and puts the defense on their heels. Even yesterday the 9ers are snapping the ball with under 5 seconds on the clock. The Saints, Broncos and Patriots snap with 8 or more seconds left on the play clock.

 

[jayfiend]

You forgot 10-6 I said that you

Who of you like? Don't know you

I hope it's a contender because you sure are talking like it is.

 

[deuce king]

Yea your right Duece I should really watch what I say and how I say it. I should keep trash talk and predictions separate.

And honestly In the long run I will go with luck over everybody tho. I love the traditional QB. He's the type of QB that I've seen win Super Bowls all my life. Speaking of that....

When is the last time a mobile QB win the Super Bowl. And I'm talking Run first type QB. Big Ben? Even tho I wouldn't exactly say he's run first.

Brady
Brees
Peyton
Eli
Big Ben
Dilfer
Rodgers
Brad Johnson

That's all of them since 2000 right?

None of them exactly run first.

That's why I don't really trust the RG3 and all the other guys I've mentioned. The Pocket Passer usually gets the ring.

Depends on your definition of a mobile QB.  For example, personally I would define Rodgers as a mobile QB.  Meaning he is able to move around in the pocket and create space for himself if and when the pocket collapses, he can or will run for a few quick yards if needed and he's mobile enough that defensive lineman and linebackers would need to stay in their lanes as he is capable of moving around. 

 

[IATT]

steve young is who all these guys need to try and emulate..

not vick.. not cunningham.. hell, not mcnabb, culpepper or mcnair

rg3 has the skillset to be 2nd coming of young.. but in my opinion, shanahan and co are doing him a disservice.. which as an eagles fan, i'm happy with.. but as a fan of dude, it saddens me to see him taking these beatings game in and game out

 

[S4L]

rg3 has the skillset to be 2nd coming of young.

LOL.

 

[jayfiend]

Yea I was thinking Steve Young too.

Rodgers is mobile. But I think if a team had a choice if rather he sat in the pocket and threw it ran. Most would pick Run

 

[larrydavid1]

rg3 has the skillset to be 2nd coming of young.

LOL.

Speaking of Rodgers though, what it look like on his return, roughly 2 more weeks?