NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[mertonhanks]

Ronde was never talked about as much as he shouldve been. Had he played for a big market team like his brother, that wouldve been a different story. Guy has been a straight up Playmaker for 15+ seasons

 

[buc em]

Josh Freeman...

#9 in passer rating with a 93.3
#8 in passing yards
#4 in TD passes
#2 in yards per attempt
#4 in TD-to-INT ratio
Also has the longest TD pass in the NFL this year for 95 yards and would have had another 90 yarder to V-Jax had he ran that one in last week.


If he keeps this up he just might make my avy again.

 

[nooera]

Jeff Allen on the Vikes is a wild dude!

Aint this Roger from Jersey Shore? at myself for even knowing this.

 

[mmg]

Josh Freeman...

#9 in passer rating with a 93.3
#8 in passing yards
#4 in TD passes
#2 in yards per attempt
#4 in TD-to-INT ratio
Also has the longest TD pass in the NFL this year for 95 yards and would have had another 90 yarder to V-Jax had he ran that one in last week.


If he keeps this up he just might make my avy again.

One week you love him, one week you hate him

 

[flyerthandelta]

Greg Jennings won't be with the packers next season

 

[illmatic34]

Greg Jennings won't be with the packers next season

Those commercials really helped this off-season.

 

[DeadsetAce]

early word is aaron hernandez did NOT make the trip to London

 

[buc em]

One week you love him, one week you hate him

Yeah, but how could I hate him if he keeps performing like that?

Over the last 4 games he has 1,309 yards passing, 10 TD's and 2 INT's. And you see his stats for the year.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

**** LeBeau's Steeler defenses are 13-1 against rookie QBs...Hope we can continue that trend with RGIII. He's having a solid rookie year, ranks first with a 70.4 completion rate, third with a 101.8 QB rating, & 18th in rushing with an avg of 66.9 yards. Wow. I have a feeling the Steelers will take more shots down field in this game, I just hope Mike Wallace doesn't continue his trend of dropping balls like he did last week. That's so unlike him...

 

[do work son]

One week you love him, one week you hate him

Yeah, but how could I hate him if he keeps performing like that?

Over the last 4 games he has 1,309 yards passing, 10 TD's and 2 INT's. And you see his stats for the year.

you watch more bucs games than i do, only one ive seen this year is against the cowboys. what was he doing his rookie season, that fell off last season? and is he looking more like his rookie season now or has he just started developing as a passer?

 

[statis22]

He was pretty good his 2nd season then fell off in his 3rd season.

 

[mmg]

Gunna brought up the point that he was so beat up because of his offensive kind he was shaken.

 

[mastamind033]

It's not talked about enough how amazing it is the things that Ronde Barber is still doing out there on the field. Every single game this guy makes a game changing interception, fumble, sack, pick 6 or tackle for loss. I'm proud to have seen a first ballot Hall of Famer's career from start to finish.

Lets not forget he is also the good twin brother, still waiting for tiki to grow a goatee to fully transform into the evil one

 

[buc em]

you watch more bucs games than i do, only one ive seen this year is against the cowboys. what was he doing his rookie season, that fell off last season? and is he looking more like his rookie season now or has he just started developing as a passer?

You're speaking of his 2nd season, which was actually his first as a full-time starter. During his 2nd season he was at his best when he was scrambling out of the pocket basically playing backyard football. He essentially played a TON like Big Ben. When the opportunity was there he would take off and run for the first down. He was hard to bring down and he brought us back in the 4th quarter a handful of times in that year alone. He also knew when to throw the ball away and seemed like he had awesome chemistry with his whole offense. Everybody was smiling, having a good time and winning football games they weren't supposed to win at such a young age.

Last year he stopped scrambling and turned into a big, innacurate pocket passer that threw off his back foot all the time. He refused to scramble even when given the opportunity and turned into a checkdown machine. What really hurt Freeman the most was not having a RB that could stay out there on passing downs. If Blount was out there everybody on the defense knew we were going to run. The season ending injury to Earnest Graham hurt him more than anything. We actually started out 4-2 and had wins over the Saints and Falcons. But then we went to London to play the Bears and supposebly most our young players were out partying the night before the game, Talib got into a big argument with Raheem right in front of the team and after that it seemed like things were never the same. The team seemed to visibly give up on Raheem and it definitely affected Freeman. It didn't help that we had the worst tandem of safetys in the league, worst trio of starting LBers and among the worst defensive lines after McCoy and Bowers went out for the season. Mike Williams put on weight, Rejus Benn didn't materialize into the receiver we thought he would and we had to put Kregg damn Lumpkin out there on passing downs since Blount couldn't be out there. Oh, and Jeff Faine was the worst center in football. He might have singlehandely been responsible for Freeman starting to throw off his back foot.



That about explains it.

 

[tengoeljugode]

The Bucs and Josh Freeman are terrible. This league is not won by cupcake offenses and flash in the pan quarterbacks. The Vikings were overachieving and the Bucs caught them at the right time. Who in this thread thought Christian Ponder was the real deal? Who in this thread thought the Vikings defense was even half way decent? Now, all of a sudden because Josh Freeman throws a 60 yard screen pass and a jump ball, he's back to being whatever it is ya'll think he is. Stop it The Saints have one of the worst defenses in the league. The Vikings have one of the worst defenses in the league. Josh Freeman is who realistic people think he is. An average quarterback.

 

[buc em]

The Vikings have 3 of the best players in all of football (AP, Jared Allen, Percy) and beat the 49ers a few weeks ago, they definitely don't suck. Of the 4 games the Bucs lost they haven't lost a single one by more than 7 points. They were beating the Giants all game until they let them come back at the end of the 4th quarter. They were beating the Cowboys all game, made Romo fumble twice and throw 3 picks but let them come back at the end of the game. That loss also was terrible playcalling and clock management at the end of the game. They were beating the ******** with a minute to go until they let RG3 walk down the field to set them up for a game winning field goal. Then they lost to the Saints on some rule that most people didn't even know existed. Josh Freeman may be "just an average quarterback", but the Bucs are actually a pretty good team. A lot better than what their record indicates.

 

[maliz]

The Vikings have 3 of the best players in all of football (AP, Jared Allen, Percy) and beat the 49ers a few weeks ago, they definitely don't suck. Of the 4 games the Bucs lost they haven't lost a single one by more than 7 points. They were beating the Giants all game until they let them come back at the end of the 4th quarter. They were beating the Cowboys all game, made Romo fumble twice and throw 3 picks but let them come back at the end of the game. That loss also was terrible playcalling and clock management at the end of the game. They were beating the ******** with a minute to go until they let RG3 walk down the field to set them up for a game winning field goal. Then they lost to the Saints on some rule that most people didn't even know existed. Josh Freeman may be "just an average quarterback", but the Bucs are actually a pretty good team. A lot better than what their record indicates.

You described a team that can''t close out a game as "pretty good". Thats a lot of "would/shoulda and until some unexplained misfortune" talk.

Pretty good teams close out games and get it done...PERIOD

 

[buc em]

Great teams find a way to close out games. Pretty good teams find a way to close out games sometimes like the Bucs have. This team is going to continue to get better and better as the season progresses.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

 

[maliz]

Great teams find a way to close out games. Pretty good teams find a way to close out games sometimes like the Bucs have. This team is going to continue to get better and better as the season progresses.

I agree I think the Bucs are very talented but yet to put it together. Josh Freeman's problems are all mental imo.

The Bucs should focus more on defense though as their 3 division rivals are all offensive oriented. Falcons are a bit more balanced tho.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

A great way to help a young QB out is the have a solid running game. I'm always scratching my head at why teams fail in this area when they have a good young QB. Tampa Bay has a nice group of RBs & a decent o-line. They should be running the brakes out of their backs. I think Thursday was the first time I've seen Tampa Bay commit to running which also opened up the passing game. Mike Williams had a solid game. Same thing with the Panthers (although I don't think their line is playing well especially without Khalil).

 

[Kimchi Papi]

I think non Cowboy fans have expressed their opinions of Jones, but how do Cowboy fans feel about Jerry?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ner-supports-jerry-jones-the-general-manager/

Jerry Jones the owner supports Jerry Jones the general manager
Posted by Michael David Smith on October 27, 2012, 3:05 PM EDT

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones sees no reason he should stop serving as the Cowboys’ general manager. In fact, Jones says being both owner and general manager provides an advantage to the Cowboys.

Jones told the Star-Telegram that as the NFL’s only general manager who has 100 percent job security, he can take risks that other general managers would never take.

“That is one of the luxuries of my position as owner as well as the ultimate decision maker, general manager and president – I can do that and take the losses and come back for more,” Jones said.

OK, but couldn’t that also be a disadvantage for the Cowboys? Taking losses and coming back for more isn’t exactly the description of a successful franchise.

“I have won with that style,” Jones said. “We are not managing a widow-woman’s retirement account here. In other words, to compete, I think we need to be aggressive. You play the game, you manage the game that way. You take some risks. When they don’t pay off, they look bad. That has happened.”

But no matter how many risks don’t pay off, there’s no risk of the Cowboys’ owner firing the Cowboys’ general manager.

 

[jjs07]

If you're a fan of Peyton Manning or are curious about his thought process/steps regarding his comeback, this is a MUST READ.

Duke Coach David Cutcliffe played key role in Peyton Manning's NFL comeback
10/26/12 11:40AM
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Jeff Duncan, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune

When Peyton Manning plotted his return to the NFL last fall, he could have picked anyone to oversee the renovation of his game. He could have gone to QB Camp with Jon Gruden or picked a famous passing guru like George Whitfield.

Instead, the four-time NFL MVP, the man many believe to be the greatest football player ever, entrusted his career to David Cutcliffe, his former college offensive coordinator at Tennessee now in fifth season as the head coach at Duke.

To the uninitiated, Cutcliffe might seem an odd choice. After all, he's operated largely in college football's shadows since being fired at Ole Miss in 2004. But if you know the Manning M.O., the choice of Cutcliffe made perfect sense.

Rest of Article in Link

 

[va757va]

gameday !! 

alot of good ones...[articularly in the east...

wet,windy and rainy in philly = a town stomp

initially picked pitt, but the closer we get..the more im leaning towards the skins...50/50 game..

 

[mez 0ne]

can't decide winners for Rams/Patriots, Saints/Broncos, Jets/Dolphins

Still mad over my Green Bay packers over the Texans pick not saving, I would be ranked 14