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Excerpt from a NY Times article published in October 28, 1997...
Something else in there too.
NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins
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He is who we thought he was
Excerpt from a NY Times article published in October 28, 1997...
Something else in there too.
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Joe was male athlete of the year twice. GOAT. 
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And Brady did all that in an era where the league now protects the quarterback, and where receivers arent allowed to get touched or heads taken off by the secondary. Brady is the closest QB next to Joe though.
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Jerry Rice cheated! By extension, so did Montana.
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Player A: 12/33 126yards 0 TD's 2INT
PlayerB: 12/21 247yards 2TD's 1INT
Can you guess who is who?
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How is this stat calculated?
LOL.
Montana played GREAT in the Super Bowl, when he got there...
Folks like to skim over those 3 straight one and dones tho...
As if those 49-3 and 17-3 L's to the Giants never happened...
Sidenote: the Giants have taken down some pretty good QB's on their 4 title runs
Montana 2x
Brady 2x
Elway
Kelly
Favre
Rodgers
Not bad.
Montana played GREAT in the Super Bowl, when he got there...
Folks like to skim over those 3 straight one and dones tho...
As if those 49-3 and 17-3 L's to the Giants never happened...
Sidenote: the Giants have taken down some pretty good QB's on their 4 title runs
Montana 2x
Brady 2x
Elway
Kelly
Favre
Rodgers
Not bad.
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QBR? Nobody knows. ESPN won't release the formula. It's basically a tool for ESPN to us to create their own narratives about quarterback success. Ultimately, nobody should pay attention to it.
mr marcus
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They created that a few years ago right?
I go by the regular qb rating. Espn always pulling random **** to fit their agenda when it comes to A > B
I go by the regular qb rating. Espn always pulling random **** to fit their agenda when it comes to A > B
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Excerpt from a NY Times article published in October 28, 1997...
Something else in there too.
Son of a *****
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Yeah, and it immediately blew up in their face.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/10/espns-qbr-stat-puts-tebow-ahead-of-rodgers/
Smh. I had no idea what that stat was that he posted
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I also want to know how to calculate the Defenisve epa
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But a significant reason why competition + conference play was tougher back then was due to no unrestricted free agency or a salary cap. Continuity and stability is much easier to maintain as a result and that's huge. There were also 28 teams in the league during the 80's vs. 32 present day. None of that can be ignored.
Hearing all these arguments reiterates to me that there will never be a definitive answer though. We won't reach a consensus because there are philosophical differences in the way we view these things. It's just gonna keep going round & round in circles just like Peyton vs. Brady and similar discussions.
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If we really want to keep it funky...it's the Colts' fault since they planted the seed for today's NFL w/ soft rules benefiting the offense. Bill Polian, who just so happened to be part of the competition committee, got the ball rolling after Ty Law and those boys molested their receivers in the playoffs.
The funny **** to me is in recent seasons after the playoffs begin (and fantasy football is done)...the flags don't fly as often and they flat out let 'em play in the Superbowl. So much for that.
Colts looking funny in the light w/ all that snitching.
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I found an interesting chart listing QB records when their defense gives up 24 or more points
"One of the biggest critiques that have been thrown out a lot about Wilson over the past few weeks is his rather poor record of 2-9 when the Seahawks gives up 24 or more points. I know it's a cherry picked stat, nonsense, etc, but it's been mentioned in the media against his level of play. So it got me wondering how other Super Bowl winning QB's compare, then I threw in a couple of other QB's in that would be considered his peers, experience wise. The results, I'd say, are rather interesting."
These are actual starts by each QB and considers player injury/being rested for the play offs
[th=""]QB/First start/Team[/th][th=""]Overall Record[/th][th=""]First 11[/th]
"One of the biggest critiques that have been thrown out a lot about Wilson over the past few weeks is his rather poor record of 2-9 when the Seahawks gives up 24 or more points. I know it's a cherry picked stat, nonsense, etc, but it's been mentioned in the media against his level of play. So it got me wondering how other Super Bowl winning QB's compare, then I threw in a couple of other QB's in that would be considered his peers, experience wise. The results, I'd say, are rather interesting."
These are actual starts by each QB and considers player injury/being rested for the play offs
| Brady (week 3, '01 NEP) | 40-42 | 3-8 |
| P. Manning (week 1, '98 IND; week 1, '12 DEN) | 45-63 | 1-10 |
| Roethlisberger (week 3, '04 PIT) | 16-31 | 2-9 |
| Brees (week 1, '02 SDC; week 1'06 NO) | 30-73 | 2-9 |
| Rodgers (week1, '08 GB) | 16-26 | 1-10 |
| Wilson (week 1, '12 SEA) | 2-9 | 2-9 |
| Luck (week 1, '12 IND) | 11-15 | 5-6 |
| Kaepernick (week 10, '12 SFO) | 8-7-1 | 6-4-1 |
| Romo | 16-36 | 6-5 |
| Flacco | 15-22 | 5-6 |
| Eli | 20-61 | 2-9 |
| Joe Cool | 23-25 | 5-6 |
| Rivers | 20-37 | 4-7 |
| Ryan | 16-38 | 3-8 |
| Stafford | 10-31 | 3-8 |
| Cam | 3-24-1 | null |
| Cutler | 12-35 | null |
| Bridgewater | 3-2 | null |
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When it all comes down to it, Brady > Peyton
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Eli with 20-61
Yet Uggs can't beat him
Yet Uggs can't beat him
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good post Rolaholic
Teddy ahead of the game
chart goes to show, putting so much emphasis on your QB to "carry" teams is pointless.
Teddy ahead of the game
chart goes to show, putting so much emphasis on your QB to "carry" teams is pointless.
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Teddy B
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what ever happened to that boy @10027?
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my dude Kaep one of only two above .500
the fact that seattle's defense has yielded 24+ points only 11 times since russel's been there is incredible.
the fact that seattle's defense has yielded 24+ points only 11 times since russel's been there is incredible.
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