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Yes, the twenty twelve on the tongue had people seeing if their pairs were legit. The usual JB thread back and forths went on and on yadda yadda yadda...
Nike Air Jordan 4 Retro "White/Cement" - The Aftermath - NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING
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That was a dope way to distinguish between real and fake. Jb should do stuff like that for every drop
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You come.... NT will deliver......
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i wouldnt know all the jordans that year looked fake anyway. i certainly wasnt buying at that point.
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Wish they released perforated like that honestly
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Something just hit me. After examining the 2016 WC4's at HOH today, I kept thinking to myself that I've seen that type of material used on retros before. Then it dawned on me, it definitely was not on the 2012 WC4's, but I'm pretty sure they used the same/similar material that was used on the 2012 military blue 4's and fire red 4's. If anyone has either or both of those, go check them out. That's pretty much what the material on the 2016's feels like.
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I've read people say it was like unc 1 leather and others say it's the same plastic-y feel of the 2012s. Guess I'll just have to hold in my own hands. My guess is it's like the softer panels from the maroon vi. Btw y'all thanks for explaining that twentytwelve on the side of the tongue, learn something new everyday 
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I've read people say it was like unc 1 leather and others say it's the same plastic-y feel of the 2012s. Guess I'll just have to hold in my own hands. My guess is it's like the softer panels from the maroon vi. Btw y'all thanks for explaining that twentytwelve on the side of the tongue, learn something new everyday
I held them in my hands today. They're definitely not plastic like the 2012 WC4's and they're definitely not as nice as the UNC 1's or the maroon 6's. I own all of those and they're not like any of them. The 2012 military blue 4's and 2012 fire red 4's had different material than the 2012 WC4's. The 2016 WC4's have similar material to the 2012 military blue and fired red 4's.
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i never understood that were those samples or?
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Even tho GR, most stores, if not all will have raffles. I'm guessing.
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niketown is first come first serve
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Many footlocker releases of late have been FCFS
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How's this release looking like over there in the PI?
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Shiekh is definitely doing waffles. FootLocker shops haven't received the e-mail from corporate yet. FCFS would be horrible on these. I am way too old for that camping out. I have enough shops around my way getting them that I am pretty sure I will be able to get at least one pair via raffle.
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Early production, unauthorized, FAKE.....
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I know for a fact the 99 retro and the command force pump retro do not have the same leather
The synthetic leather they used around that 90's/early 2000's was soft and flexible and creased
They wont use that now bevause it probably cost more and todays generation is so anal about creasing
They wont have that on these. It will probably be like the maroon 6 retro which was far from good but way better than the infrared and sport blue 6 retro which were toilet seat leather
If you kicked somebody in the stomach with the sport blue 6 your foot would go clean straight through that somebody
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I'll definitely be looking for raffles. High volume stores occasionally do fcfs in my area but it's madness.. Doesn't really work for a major city.
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I know for a fact the 99 retro and the command force pump retro do not have the same leather
The synthetic leather they used around that 90's/early 2000's was soft and flexible and creased
They wont use that now bevause it probably cost more and todays generation is so anal about creasing
They wont have that on these. It will probably be like the maroon 6 retro which was far from good but way better than the infrared and sport blue 6 retro which were toilet seat leather
If you kicked somebody in the stomach with the sport blue 6 your foot would go clean straight through that somebody
I held the 2016 WC4's in my hands today at House of Hoops. They're definitely not plastic like the 2012 WC4's. The 2012 military blue 4's and 2012 fire red 4's had different material than the 2012 WC4's. The 2016 WC4's have similar material to the 2012 military blue and fired red 4's. They're nothing like the 6's from 2014, but they're also not like the maroon 6's from last year either. If you have the 2012 military blue 4's or fire red 4's, check them out, because that's pretty much what you're getting with the 2016's.
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Thats wearable synthetic leather
Maybe nike accidentally bought a bunch of toilet seats that year and decide to use them on those 6 retros and the black tongue v
Maybe nike accidentally bought a bunch of toilet seats that year and decide to use them on those 6 retros and the black tongue v
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just an early prototype, changes that didn't make the final cut.
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Last 'major' Jordan releases in my Foot Locker area, have been raffles. The FCFS kicks have been crappy Jordan ones, like 5 low that came out today and crappy-colored recent Jordan 2 release.
They had a raffle for Alternate '89 IV's, which was wasn't needed. LOL
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what about maroons
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The whole comparing this version to the previous release and/or OGs is just a silly thing to discuss. If you actually have the OGs they've aged to the point where they're virtually unwearable. So you're comparing a 27 year old shoe to one that was just produced in the past year.
Then we need to get into the whole materials argument like materials don't change over time, or become unavailable, or suppliers of materials to Nike don't change or go out of business over time....
Then we get into the whole molds of the shoe argument, Nike uses multiple molds over a release, let alone rereleases. Molds wear out during production and have variance and over time are out of tolerance.....
Then we get into stitching.....when you have different sewers assembling a shoe you have variance because no two sewers, sew the same.....
I may have missed a few other long standing debates from posters who know nothing about producing anything let alone a shoe or garment. It must just feel good for people to complain???
People need to realize this is the best Nike is willing to produce at this time. The sneaker costs a maximum of $30 landed in the US to produce. The $220 retail price is because they CAN charge it and get it. Like any business they want to make the most money they can........
Probably better for those who don't like the shoe to spend their dys building a time machine
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