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So I finally forced myself to give these bad boys a shot. Hoping that my love for the racers, trainers, and lunars would carry over to the frees. As all I had before the birth of Flyknits were the frees. Of course went to my local Niketown sf because as we all know nike does have the best return policy. Allowing you to put unlimited miles on the shoe for a period of 30 days. First impression was a lot worse then I thought it would be. Like with all my Flyknits I went a size down. No I don't wear socks and love a super snug fit. Still fit rather loose. Never truly fit securely nor did they feel all that stable. In the 2 days I kept them putting a little over 20miles in the books, nothing had changed. I wanted to like these so bad. Could not bring myself to keep them. Construction and overall design just flat out sucks. Not telling everyone here to cross these off your list just try them out before your truly stuck with them. More power to all you gents that have the means to throw down $160 plus on these and still feel ok about it.