Obama 'Joker' Picture

[dendanskesimon]

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

The criticism of Bush will draw back to facts.

But the as of now the criticism of Obama is based from assumptions, racism, and misunderstanding.

102 US Soldiers killed since Obama become President is a FACT

Hundreds if not thousands of innocent victims continue to be killed in Afghanistan/Iraq due to Obama's policy of continuing Bush's wars in Iraq/Afghanistan is a FACT

Funding of billions of US dollars continue in Iraq is a FACT( "We're spending $10 billion dollars a month in Iraq, at a time when the Iraqis have a $79 billion dollar surplus" Obama 10/7/0

Torture continues at Bagram Air Force Base is a FACT

9.4% jobless rate in July is a FACT

Spending billions of US treasury while the US Govt continues to borrow money and currently is in a deficit of 1.3 Trillion dollars is a FACT

Throwing out the Racism card every time someone criticizes Obama is an EXCUSE.

You know damn well that most of this stuff you posted is directly related to the Bush administration and the mess it created.

No force would've been able to fix the economy and create jobs in such a short amount of time. Obama never said that he would fix everything six months into the presidency. When he got elected, I promised myself that I wouldn't criticize him for at least the first year of his presidency.. If there are no signs of improvement by mid 2010, then criticizm of him could be justified. But I will never doubt that between McCain with Saran Palin as VP and Obama, Obama was the better choice.
i was just about to post the same dam response lol

this clown just reads what he wants, and ignores the background info

 

[rexanglorum]

I am starting to believe that someone you guys were born yesterday and really think that Obama was the first president to be mocked in various media. Thispicture is tame compared to some of the Bush bashing.

As far as Obama deserving it is concerned, in your opinions it may not be warrented but in the opinions of some the numerous and unflattering portrayals ofGeorge W. Bush and presidents before him was unwarrented. Your opinion is not the same as fact, what is fact is that a growing number of Americans are unhappywith Obama's policies and ome are voicing that dissatisfaction.

Also, the "he just started" excuse is absoltely pathetic, Bush and Clinton were getting attacked before they were sworn into office, there were somewho did not give people whom they saw as usurpers "a chance" nor are they obligated to do so. Obama was given the warmest and most enthusiasticreception of any president in a generation, compared to other president he has enjoyed a tremendously lengthy and generous grace period.

If politics really does upset upsets so many of you this much (assuming that anger is actually authentic and not a simple rephrasing of the MSNBC line up forthe sake of sounding informed), perhaps you should not have decided to dabble in it last fall. If you want a love fest of universal accord, look elsewhere.

 

[emmanuel goldstein]

people are od emotional over this obama dude ... cryin out for fairness for a president lol ... smh

 

[nothin4ever]

I BEEN SAYING THIS

BUT I WOULD COMPARE HIM TO TWO-FACE

CAUSE THATS WHAT HE DID TO US HIS " PEOPLE "

RON PAUL IS & STILL IS THE DARK-KNIGHT OF THIS

WHEN SHALL AMERICANS ...NO THE WORLD LEARN ..WE MUST GET RID OF MONEY & GOV

ONLY THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS OF LIFE

THE CYCLE IS SICK

 

[nostrandave68]

WHITE Conservatives just cant get over the fact that Obama is president. Only 6 months in and you have silly sh-- like "Birthers" angry ALL WHITEtown hall mobs, Teabaggers. And if there trying to conceal their racism their doing a terrible job at it because its quite apparent. Everything Obama does isradical or damaging to America... like come on at some point the bs has to stop. America will be such a better place when these older white bigots die off. Theyounger generation of whites are much more open to a post racial America.

 

[varisoxfan]

Originally Posted by Nothin4ever

I BEEN SAYING THIS

BUT I WOULD COMPARE HIM TO TWO-FACE

CAUSE THATS WHAT HE DID TO US HIS " PEOPLE "

RON PAUL IS & STILL IS THE DARK-KNIGHT OF THIS

WHEN SHALL AMERICANS ...NO THE WORLD LEARN ..WE MUST GET RID OF MONEY & GOV

ONLY THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS OF LIFE

THE CYCLE IS SICK

you Ron Paul lames crack me up. Put your effort behind someone who is worth a damn.

 

[Master Zik]

Is Ron Paul the new Bob Dole?

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by THE FAME

Bush deserved the criticism he recived.
We were attacked under his term.
He threw us in a war for an unclear reason.
Took no immediate action towards katrina an disaster in his own country.

These are things that have all happened.

The criticsim towards Obama is mostly assumptions and pure racism.
I never seen a pic of Bush as a ritz crakcer getting shot.

The criticism of Bush will draw back to facts.
But the as of now the criticism of Obama is based from assumptions, racism, and misunderstanding.

Though I agree Bush deserved criticism, just about everything you posted is false (except for the Iraq war).

1. Bush had nothing to do with 9-11, other than the fact that he was president when it happened.. Clinton gave Osama the weapons, Clinton pissed Osama off by deserting him, and Clinton refused to give the OK to kill Osama when our military had the clear shot. I'm not saying its Clinton's fault, but rather the actions of the Clinton administration directly affected the actions of Osama Bin Laden, which led to an attack on our country.

2. Iraq war, I agree with you on here, dudes just wanted to go to war and made up a bunch of reasons why we need to. But guess what, the democrats that just love to bash Bush policy were on board, until it backfired.

3. Katrina. It is NOT, I reapeat NOT, the Federal Government's responsibility to prepare states for a hurricane. The Katrina disaster is a result of absolutely poor STATE RUN government. I live in Florida, we see more hurricanes than probably any other state, and I have NEVER ONCE seen the Federal Government come in and try to prepare our state for a storm. It is the job of the state to evacuate people if necessary, provide storm shelters, supplies, etc...The fact is that the the government of the state of Louisiana FAILED MISERABLY.

4. I am SOOOO *+#$$%% SIIIIIIICKKKKK of hearing the *+#$$%% race card everytime someone criticizes Obama. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS RACE, and everything to do with his political idealogies and radical leftwing agenda, and the fact that he has broken nearly every campaign promise he made (and it took less than 7 months for him to do it) So what assumptions and misunderstandings do think are the reasons people criticize Obama? Because all I see are people criticizing WHAT HE HAS DONE WITH HIS 7 MONTHS IN OFFICE, AND WHAT HE PLANS TO DO WITH THE REST OF HIS TERM, AND MAKING OBSERVATIONS ABOUT HIS TRUE CHARACTER BY EDUCATING THEMSELVES ON HIS PAST.

you're bugging.

a.) bin laden got funding and weapons from bush sr., not clinton.

b.) it's not the federal government's job to protect it's citizens against danger, natural or man made?

then why were they picking and choosing which projects would be complete and which wouldnt be?

c.) race card? what other reason do these people have for calling him a terrorist, trying to challenge the fact that he was born here, etc.? im not one toquickly pull the race cad, but lets be completely honest here. This election brought out alot of bigots.....up until the results were announced, alot of whitepeople in this country knew, for sure, obama wouldn't win. now that he's the winner, the right is taking any and every stance against the man they can.not only that, people are being ridiculous....

take, for example, all these town halls and "grassroots" movements...

how are you a concerned citizen when you won't even let the congressmember answer? 15 to 20 people screaming "NO, YOURE WRONG, YOURE NOT GONNA TAKE MYMONEY" over the person talking constructive? how are you questioning the member of congress and debating and "making them look dumb" when theycan't even speak? these people arent simple protesters, they're causing so much chaos, these townhall meetings get ended, shut down andcancelled....how is that constructive?

it isnt. you see alot of these right slanted people out here trying to be so smug and "smart" with their actions....they're doing !*%# they knowwill cause conflict just so they can say "well, you guys painted bush out to be a criminal, we can do the same!" or "you guys didn't likebush so we don't like your president"

it's not smart, it's not speaking on social commentary, it's not unique, it's ignorant, and you not only look dumb as $@$%, you're reallydividing the country....only, you're dividing yourself on the losing side....dividing yourself based on bs.

i was watching faux the other day, dude goes "see, democrats are social groups....us republicans, we're just a group of people that thinks thesame"

simple statement, don't read too much into it, right?

then he goes on "they have the blacks, the browns, the old, the young, unions, celebrities" but he didn't describe his "group of people who'think' the same" right?

right.

it's cool, yall got that "us vs. them" mentality...

the man campaigned on healthcare reform, now the masses of people who LOST the election are voicing an opinion? GUESS WHAT, YOU'RE IN THE MINORITY, WELCOMETO THE MINORITY POOL.....

a majority of americans want health care reform....period. you can cry, complain, talk over people, scream and shout and hide your bigotry all the $@$% youwant, at the end of the day, Obama has only been waiting for appearance reasoning....he could pass the bill based upon an issue he won the election off of anytime he wants....lol

no posters, photoshops, ruined town halls or any other closeted bigotry will help you.

lol@a lady talking with the same cadence as "hes a terrorist" lady, saying "hes going to take our healthcare and killold people"

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

How effective were Bush and Clinton in terms of implementing their plans and being successful when they first started?

Not trying to spark anything, just genuinely curious.

 

[sundoobie]

You know damn well that most of this stuff you posted is directly related to the Bush administration and the mess it created.

No force would've been able to fix the economy and create jobs in such a short amount of time. Obama never said that he would fix everything six months into the presidency. When he got elected, I promised myself that I wouldn't criticize him for at least the first year of his presidency.. If there are no signs of improvement by mid 2010, then criticizm of him could be justified. But I will never doubt that between McCain with Saran Palin as VP and Obama, Obama was the better choice.
No Problem.

In 3 years when I post RELEVANT FACTS as to why Obama is being criticized, I will just use the aforementioned reason that it was all directly related to theBush Administration. GOT IT!

Oh god .

Are you really comparing 102 soldiers that have died since Obama has been in office to the thousands since the war has started ?

REALLY ?
Yes Really. Are you saying those 102 soldiers and their families whom are grieving are not as important because Obama is in office?

this clown just reads what he wants, and ignores the background info
Reads what I want? Well everything I posted are RELEVANT facts as to why Obama is being criticized. But I got it champ, lets post all thebackground info also because after all every single problem in America no matter if its 6 months, 2 years, 3 years under Obama is and will always be Bush'sfault.

a majority of americans want health care reform....period.
Based on what? Your opinion or actual poll statistics?

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this week showed that 46 percent disapproved of Obama's handling of health care reform, while 41 percent approved.0

A Rasmussen poll last week showed worse numbers, with 53 percent opposing the Obama-backed plan. That is up from 45 percent opposed in June.

 

[Lizakers]

people who think Obama and/or Democrats are socialists are HIGHLY ignorant and uneducated

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Oh god .

Are you really comparing 102 soldiers that have died since Obama has been in office to the thousands since the war has started ?

REALLY ?

Yes Really. Are you saying those 102 soldiers and their families whom are grieving are not as important because Obama is in office?
#5

, no, no less relevant, but please, charge the deaths tothe right culprit....

is the new vice pres of random bank #5 responsible for their 1 million loss last year?

no.

but they're still losing money, doobie, how is the 25k loss this year so far NOT the new guy's fault? i mean, the bank is losing money ON HIS WATCH!

, come on bro, you're smarter than that...don't get caught upin arguing that you just make statements man...

@ 102 deaths under "obama's watch"

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

a majority of americans want health care reform....period.

Based on what? Your opinion or actual poll statistics?

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this week showed that 46 percent disapproved of Obama's handling of health care reform, while 41 percent approved.0

A Rasmussen poll last week showed worse numbers, with 53 percent opposing the Obama-backed plan. That is up from 45 percent opposed in June.

, if you read my post, it's not based on polls ORopinion...

it's based upon the man being elected on a platform of healthcare reform

"i will reform healthcare by doing......"

then he wins

then he makes strides toward reforming healthcare in the fashion he sees fit, because, hey, he IS the president and WAS elected on a platform of healthcarereform....

i'm sorry, i may not be as politically intelligent as you are, but arent you supposed to actually DO what you said you were gonna do during the electiononce you're actually elected?

dudes act like my man just stood up on stage like "vote for me im black"

you spent so much time during the campaign swearing obama had no platform or no plan of action

and every time he makes an attempt to advance his platforms and plans of actions, you know, cause he was picked to be president and picked to execute theplatforms he promised during the campaign, you guys are all up in arms like obama wasnt telling you this is what he wanted to do for about 2 years and act likehe wasnt elected president because a MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AGREE, AND VOTED FOR HIM SO HE WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO EXECUTE THE IDEAS HE CAMPAIGNED FOR DURINGTHE ELECTION

or i mean, i may be wrong, you know more politics than me...

plus, you have shiny polls in which they randomly questioned about 800 people in the same geographic location probably during the same time of day, butthat's cool tho, you got polls....

 

[nash]

it's pretty sad that the American people were so behind Obama and when things start getting a little rough or signs of immediate improvement aren'tseen they turned their backs on him

 

[sundoobie]

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Oh god .

Are you really comparing 102 soldiers that have died since Obama has been in office to the thousands since the war has started ?

REALLY ?

Yes Really. Are you saying those 102 soldiers and their families whom are grieving are not as important because Obama is in office?
#5

, no, no less relevant, but please, charge the deaths to the right culprit....

is the new vice pres of random bank #5 responsible for their 1 million loss last year?

no.

but they're still losing money, doobie, how is the 25k loss this year so far NOT the new guy's fault? i mean, the bank is losing money ON HIS WATCH!

, come on bro, you're smarter than that...don't get caught up in arguing that you just make statements man...

@ 102 deaths under "obama's watch"





Must be nice sitting in front of a computer LAUGHING at the subject on hand. Death of American soldiers is something you're laughing at and comparing to abank? What are you in middle school?

And yes every single soldier killed is under Obama's watch. With a stroke of a pen he can bring every single US soldier, contractor, and support personnelhome. He has that power.

Culprit? A majority of those deaths were due to Obama's policy and mission in Afghanistan currently under hand. He is the one that sent more of our troopsto die there not Bush.

So how you going to sit there and LAUGH and JOKE about these young men/women whom have died serving this country? Typical NT response or should I say ENPHANresponse.

 

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by eNPHAN


you're bugging.

a.) bin laden got funding and weapons from bush sr., not clinton.

...actually. Clinton was no better than Bush Sr. Reagan in this regard.

The US funded the KLA during the Kosovo war and it's well known that Al Qaeda was heavily involved in the KLA both in financing the organization andproviding them with non native (Arab/N. African) fighters.

 

[sundoobie]

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

a majority of americans want health care reform....period.

Based on what? Your opinion or actual poll statistics?

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this week showed that 46 percent disapproved of Obama's handling of health care reform, while 41 percent approved.0

A Rasmussen poll last week showed worse numbers, with 53 percent opposing the Obama-backed plan. That is up from 45 percent opposed in June.

, if you read my post, it's not based on polls OR opinion...

it's based upon the man being elected on a platform of healthcare reform

"i will reform healthcare by doing......"

then he wins

then he makes strides toward reforming healthcare in the fashion he sees fit, because, hey, he IS the president and WAS elected on a platform of healthcare reform....

i'm sorry, i may not be as politically intelligent as you are, but arent you supposed to actually DO what you said you were gonna do during the election once you're actually elected?

dudes act like my man just stood up on stage like "vote for me im black"

you spent so much time during the campaign swearing obama had no platform or no plan of action

and every time he makes an attempt to advance his platforms and plans of actions, you know, cause he was picked to be president and picked to execute the platforms he promised during the campaign, you guys are all up in arms like obama wasnt telling you this is what he wanted to do for about 2 years and act like he wasnt elected president because a MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AGREE, AND VOTED FOR HIM SO HE WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO EXECUTE THE IDEAS HE CAMPAIGNED FOR DURING THE ELECTION

or i mean, i may be wrong, you know more politics than me...

plus, you have shiny polls in which they randomly questioned about 800 people in the same geographic location probably during the same time of day, but that's cool tho, you got polls....

Let me post as sarcastically as I can be.

Not based on POLL or OPINION? Ummmm Strange... sounded like you knew what you were talking about. But great way to go back to what you posted.

yes SHINY POLLS are cool aren't they? I mean who cares about em certainly not those Politicians in Washington

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Oh god .

Are you really comparing 102 soldiers that have died since Obama has been in office to the thousands since the war has started ?

REALLY ?

Yes Really. Are you saying those 102 soldiers and their families whom are grieving are not as important because Obama is in office?
#5

, no, no less relevant, but please, charge the deaths to the right culprit....

is the new vice pres of random bank #5 responsible for their 1 million loss last year?

no.

but they're still losing money, doobie, how is the 25k loss this year so far NOT the new guy's fault? i mean, the bank is losing money ON HIS WATCH!

, come on bro, you're smarter than that...don't get caught up in arguing that you just make statements man...

@ 102 deaths under "obama's watch"

Must be nice sitting in front of a computer LAUGHING at the subject on hand. Death of American soldiers is something you're laughing at and comparing to a bank? What are you in middle school?

And yes every single soldier killed is under Obama's watch. With a stroke of a pen he can bring every single US soldier, contractor, and support personnel home. He has that power.

Culprit? A majority of those deaths were due to Obama's policy and mission in Afghanistan currently under hand. He is the one that sent more of our troops to die there not Bush.

So how you going to sit there and LAUGH and JOKE about these young men/women whom have died serving this country? Typical NT response or should I say ENPHAN response.








yawn

 

[Betonblck]

Originally Posted by Nothin4ever


RON PAUL IS & STILL IS THE DARK-KNIGHT OF THIS

WHEN SHALL AMERICANS ...NO THE WORLD LEARN ..WE MUST GET RID OF MONEY & GOV

ONLY THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS OF LIFE

THE CYCLE IS SICK

You Ron Paul supporters are hilarious. But I don't know what's worse, the people that believe what he says or Ron Paul himself.

Abolish the Federal Reserve?

Reduce the size of government?

Right, the first thing a politicianis going to do is fire all his buddies that helped him get there. Then why work in government in the first place? Just quit your job and government will besmaller.

He reminds me of my elementary school class President that says there will be no homework on Fridays.

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by eNPHAN


you're bugging.

a.) bin laden got funding and weapons from bush sr., not clinton.

...actually. Clinton was no better than Bush Sr. Reagan in this regard.

The US funded the KLA during the Kosovo war and it's well known that Al Qaeda was heavily involved in the KLA both in financing the organization and providing them with non native (Arab/N. African) fighters.

as vice president, bush sr. had ties with saddam

as presidnt, he provided bin laden with the neccesary weapons to fight soviet influence...

containment policy.

all way before clinton and obama.

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

a majority of americans want health care reform....period.

Based on what? Your opinion or actual poll statistics?

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this week showed that 46 percent disapproved of Obama's handling of health care reform, while 41 percent approved.0

A Rasmussen poll last week showed worse numbers, with 53 percent opposing the Obama-backed plan. That is up from 45 percent opposed in June.

, if you read my post, it's not based on polls OR opinion...

it's based upon the man being elected on a platform of healthcare reform

"i will reform healthcare by doing......"

then he wins

then he makes strides toward reforming healthcare in the fashion he sees fit, because, hey, he IS the president and WAS elected on a platform of healthcare reform....

i'm sorry, i may not be as politically intelligent as you are, but arent you supposed to actually DO what you said you were gonna do during the election once you're actually elected?

dudes act like my man just stood up on stage like "vote for me im black"

you spent so much time during the campaign swearing obama had no platform or no plan of action

and every time he makes an attempt to advance his platforms and plans of actions, you know, cause he was picked to be president and picked to execute the platforms he promised during the campaign, you guys are all up in arms like obama wasnt telling you this is what he wanted to do for about 2 years and act like he wasnt elected president because a MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AGREE, AND VOTED FOR HIM SO HE WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO EXECUTE THE IDEAS HE CAMPAIGNED FOR DURING THE ELECTION

or i mean, i may be wrong, you know more politics than me...

plus, you have shiny polls in which they randomly questioned about 800 people in the same geographic location probably during the same time of day, but that's cool tho, you got polls....

Let me post as sarcastically as I can be.

Not based on POLL or OPINION? Ummmm Strange... sounded like you knew what you were talking about. But great way to go back to what you posted.

yes SHINY POLLS are cool aren't they? I mean who cares about em certainly not those Politicians in Washington

he was elected, proof enough that a majority of american's support the ideas he talked about, i.e. healthcare reform.

he won.....he needs to do everything he campaigned for to win...

if he said he was gonna do it, how are you salty once he's done it?

"if you elect me, i will reform healthcare"

now tha he's elected you're all "WHAT IS HE DOING? DOESNT HE SEE THAT 46 PERCENT OF AMERICANS WITH AN ERROR OF 7 PERCENT DON'T AGREE WITHHIM?!?!?!?"

he already won, his supporters outnumber his opposition....

whatever poll you wanna post inst gonna change that, bruh

 

[sundoobie]

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Oh god .

Are you really comparing 102 soldiers that have died since Obama has been in office to the thousands since the war has started ?

REALLY ?

Yes Really. Are you saying those 102 soldiers and their families whom are grieving are not as important because Obama is in office?
#5

, no, no less relevant, but please, charge the deaths to the right culprit....

is the new vice pres of random bank #5 responsible for their 1 million loss last year?

no.

but they're still losing money, doobie, how is the 25k loss this year so far NOT the new guy's fault? i mean, the bank is losing money ON HIS WATCH!

, come on bro, you're smarter than that...don't get caught up in arguing that you just make statements man...

@ 102 deaths under "obama's watch"

Must be nice sitting in front of a computer LAUGHING at the subject on hand. Death of American soldiers is something you're laughing at and comparing to a bank? What are you in middle school?

And yes every single soldier killed is under Obama's watch. With a stroke of a pen he can bring every single US soldier, contractor, and support personnel home. He has that power.

Culprit? A majority of those deaths were due to Obama's policy and mission in Afghanistan currently under hand. He is the one that sent more of our troops to die there not Bush.

So how you going to sit there and LAUGH and JOKE about these young men/women whom have died serving this country? Typical NT response or should I say ENPHAN response.

yawn



No LAUGHING icon? No it's Bush's fault anyways? WOW I am impressed

Did I actually make sense to you? Welcome to being open minded to other's people's feelings and opinions.

he was elected, proof enough that a majority of american's support the ideas he talked about, i.e. healthcare reform.

he won.....he needs to do everything he campaigned for to win...

if he said he was gonna do it, how are you salty once he's done it?

"if you elect me, i will reform healthcare"

now tha he's elected you're all "WHAT IS HE DOING? DOESNT HE SEE THAT 46 PERCENT OF AMERICANS WITH AN ERROR OF 7 PERCENT DON'T AGREE WITH HIM?!?!?!?"

he already won, his supporters outnumber his opposition....

whatever poll you wanna post inst gonna change that, bruh

Let me get this straight BRUH.

Since a majority of Americans voted for Obama, that means a majority of Americans want Health Care reform REGARDLESS of POLLS that ask say 800 to 2000 averageAmericans what their current opinions about Health Care Reform are as of today August 10, 2009.

Let me rephrase that...

REGARDLESS of POLLS that ask say 800 to 2000 average Americans what their current opinions about Health Care Reform are as of today August 10, 2009... none ofthat matters because a majority of Americans voted for Obama which AUTOMATICALLY means ...

a majority of americans want health care reform....period.

Got it!

 

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by eNPHAN


you're bugging.

a.) bin laden got funding and weapons from bush sr., not clinton.

...actually. Clinton was no better than Bush Sr. Reagan in this regard.

The US funded the KLA during the Kosovo war and it's well known that Al Qaeda was heavily involved in the KLA both in financing the organization and providing them with non native (Arab/N. African) fighters.

as vice president, bush sr. had ties with saddam

as presidnt, he provided bin laden with the neccesary weapons to fight soviet influence...

containment policy.

all way before clinton and obama.

The policy of providing the Afghans and Arab fighters weapons during the Soviet Afghan war began under Reagan. Yes, Bush Sr. was VP but it began long beforeBush Sr became Pres. The CIA handled the aid to the Afghans and it was the CIA who pushed for increased aid. Not the executive branch.
Bush Sr. was only Director of CIA for about a year ('76-'77) more than 2 years before the Soviet-Afghan War began.

Bush Sr. became President in January of 1989 . The Soviets withdrew the last of their forces in Jan and Feb of 1989.


What does Saddam have to do with Bin Laden? We were talking about aid to Bin Laden and Al Queda, right?

 

[optimusprimeaphia]

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

You know damn well that most of this stuff you posted is directly related to the Bush administration and the mess it created.

No force would've been able to fix the economy and create jobs in such a short amount of time. Obama never said that he would fix everything six months into the presidency. When he got elected, I promised myself that I wouldn't criticize him for at least the first year of his presidency.. If there are no signs of improvement by mid 2010, then criticizm of him could be justified. But I will never doubt that between McCain with Saran Palin as VP and Obama, Obama was the better choice.

No Problem.

In 3 years when I post RELEVANT FACTS as to why Obama is being criticized, I will just use the aforementioned reason that it was all directly related to the Bush Administration. GOT IT!

Oh god .

Are you really comparing 102 soldiers that have died since Obama has been in office to the thousands since the war has started ?

REALLY ?
Yes Really. Are you saying those 102 soldiers and their families whom are grieving are not as important because Obama is in office?

this clown just reads what he wants, and ignores the background info
Reads what I want? Well everything I posted are RELEVANT facts as to why Obama is being criticized. But I got it champ, lets post all the background info also because after all every single problem in America no matter if its 6 months, 2 years, 3 years under Obama is and will always be Bush's fault.

a majority of americans want health care reform....period.
Based on what? Your opinion or actual poll statistics?

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this week showed that 46 percent disapproved of Obama's handling of health care reform, while 41 percent approved.0

A Rasmussen poll last week showed worse numbers, with 53 percent opposing the Obama-backed plan. That is up from 45 percent opposed in June.









This is the stupidest argument ever.

Dude isn't even stating something worth respecting.

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by eNPHAN


you're bugging.

a.) bin laden got funding and weapons from bush sr., not clinton.

...actually. Clinton was no better than Bush Sr. Reagan in this regard.

The US funded the KLA during the Kosovo war and it's well known that Al Qaeda was heavily involved in the KLA both in financing the organization and providing them with non native (Arab/N. African) fighters.

as vice president, bush sr. had ties with saddam

as presidnt, he provided bin laden with the neccesary weapons to fight soviet influence...

containment policy.

all way before clinton and obama.

The policy of providing the Afghans and Arab fighters weapons during the Soviet Afghan war began under Reagan.
What does Saddam have to do with Bin Laden? We were talking about aid to Bin Laden and Al Queda, right?

alls im saying. relax, bro....

your boy up there was spouting off something or other....whatever i was saying about sadam was in response to him....

but my point is this, we were in bed with them cats long before anyone elected in 2008, so stop all the "BUT HE..." bs, especially when it pertainsto problems or occurances that are more than decades old......

like i said, obama got elected on platform of a, b and c....so obviously a majority of americans wanted a, b and c, because thats the platform he ran on,"once elected, i will do a, b and c"....so now that he's doing b (a would be...stimulus-related i guess?), you wanna criticize him and say"BUT AMERICA DOESNT WANT B, NOONE WANTS B" when obviously, a majority of americans voted the man in power precisely so he could do B......

were you able to understand that example, without me typing "healthcare"?

regardless of your polls of 2000, 250, 3500 people....the poll i'm referencing is not only more offical, unbiased, uncontrolled more important poll....butit's the only one that matters....the election poll numbers.....

"but sally ann from cnn asked about 200 people on the street today before her lunch break and they said...."

lol

edit: and really, if you wanna get technical, the POLICY was that of containment, which was a policy adopted by our great nation LONG before bush, regan,clinton and all of them...if you REALLY wanna get down to it.....either way, it has nothing to do with our president in 2009.....i dont even remember what theargument was....but i just find it comical you think you're doing it...and you aren't...at all.