Offical 2009-10 NBA Season Thread

[i nasmatic i]

TMac is activated tonight...

 

[metrokid26]

Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I

TMac is activated tonight...

He's back

 

[CP1708]

Another L on the Spurs.

Kobe has a broken finger, so he says.

TMac back on the floor. I pick on dude, but wish him some luck on this.

Cavs fans cried the whole thread, so I never got an answer, what was the deal with Devin Harris, why is he hobbled?

Sac fightin hard in Portland tonight..........

 

[big j 33]

NY lost... there is no God

 

[CP1708]

Beasley musta heard us talkin about him the other day.

Who's the late ESPN game tonight? Kings and who?

Who the hellsigned up for that crap fest of a game?

 

[proshares]

CP,

To answer your question about Devin Harris:

With Cleveland leading by 11 with 3:48 left, Devin Harris was called for a flagrant foul and ejected after wrapping his arm around Moon's face and neck and pulling him to the ground when Moon went up for a breakaway basket. James, who finished with 23 points, immediately tried to quiet the incident by putting his arms around Harris, while O'Neal began jawing and pushing his way toward a forming scrum.

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[h3]Extension for Woodson will wait[/h3]
10:55AM ET

[h5]Mike Woodson | Hawks[/h5]
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The Atlanta Hawks are off to their best start in franchise history. However, there is still no plan to offer head coach Mike Woodson a contract extension past this season.

"Am I happy about it? No," Woodson told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Tuesday. "But it is what it is. But I'm not going to sit here and complain about it by any means. I have this year on my contract and then I'm a free agent. They have not approached me, so obviously we're going to play it out."

Hawks general manager Rick Sund said that has been the plan from the beginning.

"It's been a good situation for Woody as ownership and the organization stood by him and supported him in the rebuilding years," Sund said. "When I suggested a new contract for Woody, the owners embraced the recommendation and I told Woody's camp that after two years, we'll evaluate it at that time and it seems to be working well."

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[h5]Steve Blake | Trail Blazers[/h5]
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There has been talk that Andre Miller doesn't fit with the Blazers and that he could be dealt. However, ESPN.com's Chad Ford writes that Steve Blake is the one most likely to be traded.

Ford writes: "Two general managers told me they've called the Blazers to inquire about Miller's availability and been told that Miller isn't available right now. Rather, those two GMs have reason to believe that Portland GM Kevin Pritichard is shopping Blake. Why Blake? One reason is that he's struggled to get the offense going smoothly ... Two, Blake is easier to move and may have more trade value. ... Three, in the opinion of one GM, the Blazers won't be quick to give up on Miller."

Ira Winderman of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel writes that one possible destination for Blake is Miami.

"Keep in mind, as well, that the trade exception the Heat holds from last February's Shawn Marion-Jermaine O'Neal trade also would accommodate Blazers point guard Steve Blake, a player who long has interested the Heat. The trade exception would allow the Heat to then include Daequan Cook or another lower-priced player in such a deal with Portland."

The trade exception is worth $4.26 million and was generated from Marcus Banks' contract.

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[h3]San Jose seeks an NBA team[/h3]
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[h5]NBA Team Relocation[/h5]
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From today's San Jose Mercury News:

"In other matters Tuesday, the San Jose City council approved a memorandum of understanding between the city and its redevelopment agency with the group that manages HP Pavilion regarding efforts to attract a National Basketball Association team. The memorandum sets forth general terms and the respective roles and responsibilities of the city and Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment. An NBA spokesman told the Mercury News he knew of no team that is preparing to move to San Jose."

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[h3]O'Neal for T-Mac?[/h3]
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[h5]Jermaine O'Neal | Heat[/h5]
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Could we see a trade between the Miami Heat and the Houston Rockets that would send Jermaine O'Neal to Texas and Tracy McGrady to Florida?

Ira Winderman of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel writes about the possibility.

"There is an undeniable sense that change is in the air, and for more than the benching of Mario Chalmers, the waiving of Shavlik Randolph and the recent deep freeze of Daequan Cook. So, in that vein, perhaps Jermaine O'Neal for Tracy McGrady might get new legs, with McGrady getting a test run Tuesday from the Rockets. The Heat's trade exception would allow for Luis Scola or Brian Cook to also be included in such a deal, to provide a replacement in the power rotation (perhaps the reason for the waiving of Randolph?)"

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[h3]Brand will come off the bench[/h3]
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[h5]Elton Brand | 76ers[/h5]
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Philadelphia 76ers head coach Eddie Jordan isn't sure if rookie Jrue Holiday will remain in the starting lineup, but he is leaning towards moving Elton Brand to the bench. That would allow Jordan to slide Andre Iguodala from shooting guard to small forward and Thaddeus Young from small forward to power forward.

Asked by The Philadelphia Inquirer if he had concluded Iguodala and Young were playing out of position, Jordan said, "I'm leaning that way."

Added Jordan: "I like Andre and Thad getting out and running straight lines to the basket."

Brand likes the idea of coming off the bench and playing center to create matchup problems for the opposition.

"[With me] at the five, Thad [Young] is a great player at the four, no forwards can guard him because he's so quick, so that gives us a mismatch there," Brand told the Philadelphia Daily News. "Coming in to play the five, yeah, I could do that also. I get touches and move the ball and pass the ball. It's fun playing the five, you get a lot of touches out there."

 

[CP1708]

Dev.

But naw Pro, I meant his injury early this season, what's been bothering him? Last year that dude was havin HUGE games out there, and right now he'sjust sorta coasting along. He's hobbled by something, is it his ankle or a knee?

 

[proshares]

I think it was his groin not 100% sure although I know he's been bothered by a sprained pinkie the last week or so.

 

[dlo13]

I can't believe I almost support giving Woodson an extension now.

 

[scott frost]

Channeling my inner Bill Simmons, anytime you can pay a player $14 Mill a year to come off your bench, you have to make that move.

 

[kiddin like jason]

Osh (or anyone else that may know), what is the average for Offensive/Defensive Rating? I can't find it anywhere.

 

[bigmike23]

In other matters Tuesday, the San Jose City council approved a memorandum of understanding between the city and its redevelopment agency with the group that manages HP Pavilion regarding efforts to attract a National Basketball Association team. The memorandum sets forth general terms and the respective roles and responsibilities of the city and Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment. An NBA spokesman told the Mercury News he knew of no team that is preparing to move to San Jose."
3 teams in the bay area?

why

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

Osh (or anyone else that may know), what is the average for Offensive/Defensive Rating? I can't find it anywhere.

Teams or just individual players?

 

[kiddin like jason]

Players.

 

[CP1708]

I can find the top 20, but not an average or median. I'll keep looking.

 

[proshares]

Check basketballreference.com or 82games.com should have it. Posting from phone or I'd check for you.

 

[kiddin like jason]

I figured it would be simple to find, but no dice.

BasketballReference has everything but an average number. 82games has a bunch of statistics my mathematically-defunct brain can't comprehend.

 

[CP1708]

Here's the top 20 at least.

Defensive Rating

1.	Dwight Howard-ORL	94.6
2.	Kevin Garnett-BOS	97.5
3.	LeBron James-CLE	99.1
4.	Anderson Varejao-CLE	100.0
5.	Kendrick Perkins-BOS	100.2
6.	Tim Duncan-SAS	100.2
7.	Zydrunas Ilgauskas-CLE	100.5
8.	Chris Andersen-DEN	100.6
9.	Yao Ming-HOU	100.9
10.	Rajon Rondo-BOS	100.9
11.	Lamar Odom-LAL	101.7
12.	Trevor Ariza-LAL	102.2
13.	Gerald Wallace-CHA	102.4
14.	Joel Przybilla-POR	102.4
15.	Luis Scola-HOU	102.4
16.	Samuel Dalembert-PHI	102.6
17.	Emeka Okafor-CHA	102.7
18.	Rashard Lewis-ORL	102.8
19.	Chris Paul-NOH	103.1
20.	Rasheed Wallace-DET	103.4

 

[kiddin like jason]

That was last year.

1.	Gerald Wallace-CHA	95.6
2.	Rasheed Wallace-BOS	95.9
3.	Lamar Odom-LAL	96.6
4.	Greg Oden-POR	96.8
5.	Kendrick Perkins-BOS	96.9
6.	Kevin Garnett-BOS	97.3
7.	Rajon Rondo-BOS	97.5
8.	Dwight Howard-ORL	97.9
9.	Erick Dampier-DAL	98.4
10.	Marcus Camby-LAC	98.5
11.	Josh Smith-ATL	98.6
12.	Tyson Chandler-CHA	98.7
13.	Kobe Bryant-LAL	98.8
14.	Joel Przybilla-POR	98.9
15.	Andrew Bynum-LAL	99.1
16.	Anderson Varejao-CLE	99.7
17.	Raymond Felton-CHA	99.8
18.	Andrew Bogut-MIL	100.2
19.	Derek Fisher-LAL	100.4
20.	Ersan Ilyasova-MIL	100.7

It's not important. I just wanted to see how a few players stacked up.

 

[bigmike23]

and how do they come up with that rating?

cause i see a few people on that list that can't guard a chair

 

[big j 33]

Yeah can someone breakdown those rankings for the simple minded, I'm curious too.

 

[CP1708]

Damn, I didn't even notice that. It's was right on the front page when I pulled it, how the hell I get last years?

So hold on, Lamar Odom is 3rd in defensive ratings? Ok.

Wait, I have Odom, Fisher, Kobe, and Bynum but not Artest? Good lord, what the hell is up with these stats? I know Artest has come down a notch from who hewas, but he is no way worse then Fish is. PG's light us up somethin fierce.

 

[kiddin like jason]

Defensive Rating is just the number of points a player allows per 100 possessions.

 

[bangdak]

Sheed at #2?

i also, need someone to break this down for me.
crash at #1 doesnt surprise me one bit, dude is an absolute beast, he just needs to stay healthy.

 

[CP1708]

Interesting stuff.......

10. If crooked NBA playoff series were heavyweight boxers, then the 2002 Western finals (Lakers-Kings) was George Foreman and the 2001 Eastern finals (Bucks-Sixers) was Earnie Shavers. Translation: People remember only George, but Earnie was almost as memorable. To briefly recap, Philly's wins in Games 1 and 4 swung on a controversial lane violation and two egregious no-calls. The Sixers finished with advantages of 186-120 in free throws, 12-3 in technicals and 5-0 in flagrant fouls. Glenn Robinson, one of Milwaukee's top-two scorers, didn't even attempt a free throw until Game 5. Bucks coach George Karl and star Ray Allen were fined a combined $85,000 after the series for claiming the NBA rigged it. In that game, Milwaukee's best big man, Scott Williams, was charged with a flagrant foul but not thrown out, only to be suspended, improbably, for Game 7.

The defining game: When Philly stole a must-win Game 4 in Milwaukee despite an atrocious performance from Iverson (10-for-32 shooting), helped by a 2-to-1 free-throw advantage and a host of late calls. How one-sided was it? When an official called a harmless touch foul to send Sam Cassell to the line with two seconds left and the Bucks trailing by seven (maybe the all-time we-need-to-pad-the-free-throw-stats-so-they-don't-seem-so-lopsided-afterward call), the subsequent sarcastic standing ovation nearly morphed into the first-ever sarcastic riot. And this was Milwaukee, the most easygoing city in the country! Nobody remembers this. The real loser was Allen, who exploded for 190 points in the series, including a record nine threepointers in do-or-die Game 6. Nobody remembers this, either. Even I didn't remember it. Crap.

15. Finally, I visited the Nike compound in Oregon recently and soon realized the company's approach is about 200 times more complex than I'd imagined. I'd always thought it signed someone, designed a cool-looking shoe for the guy, then mailed it to him. Nope. Nike brings many of its athletes to its campus, runs them through elaborate tests, breaks down their mechanics (not just the structure of their feet, but the way each body part relates to all the others) and everything else. The company takes pride in its guys not suffering major foot or ankle injuries.

The trip made me think of Grant Hill. In 1997, Fila blew him away with a massive $80 million deal meant to splash the company into the basketball market. With Nike and Reebok heatedly bidding for NBA stars, Fila went a different route: It threw the bulk of its basketball marketing budget behind Hill. But after staying healthy for six seasons, Hill injured his ankle and missed much of the next decade. Could his shoes have contributed to his woes? In any case, Fila doesn't sponsor NBA players or compete in that market anymore.

Yes, it could be coincidence, and yes, Fila surely was careful in customizing its shoe for Hill. But if a publishing company that printed only a couple of books a year tried to sign me, would I think, Do they have enough experience to publish mine? Damned right I would. The whole thing is weird. Keep in mind, it's usually bigs who battle chronic foot and ankle issues, not athletic swing guys. After my visit, I realized "What if Grant Hill had signed with Nike?" was a natural for my "Greatest What-Ifs?" chapter. Hill was headed for Level 3 or 4 of my Hall of Fame Pyramid, but he didn't make it. What if his career detour wasn't just bad luck? It's a great hypothetical, you have to admit.

Curious, I Googled what sneakers Hill is wearing this season. Yup ... Nike.