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Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA
exactly what i was thinking
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Originally Posted by 2g00d4u
Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA
exactly what i was thinking
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Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA
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Originally Posted by 2g00d4u
Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA
exactly what i was thinking
EXACTLY!
[h1]Office dating leaves the closetFor Office Romance, the Secret's Out [/h1][h2]Companies take a more neutral stance on workplace romance; couples see no need to hide[/h2]
- [h3]By SUE SHELLENBARGER[/h3]
Like a growing number of young couples, Nathan Shaw and Maiko Sato met at the office, in a Cisco Systems training program for new recruits. They dated openly as fellow employees for a couple of years.
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When Mr. Shaw was looking for a novelway to propose marriage, he picked the office as the setting andengaged his boss as a co-conspirator. During a date with Ms. Sato onenight, his boss called Mr. Shaw on the pretext of asking him to stop bythe office to test some teleconferencing gear.
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As Ms. Sato gamely tried to help withthe "test," Mr. Shaw guided her to the engagement ring he had hidden,then flipped a flashing slide onto her teleconferencing screen: "Sayyes!" After a moment of stunned silence, she did. The two married in2008 and remain happily co-employed at Cisco's San Jose, Calif., campus.
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Office romance is coming out of thecloset. Some 67% of employees say they see no need to hide their officerelationships, up from 54% in 2005, says a CareerBuilder survey of5,231 employees released Tuesday.
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In the past, "the Baby Boomers keptoffice romance secret" amid fears of career damage or reprisal, saysHelaine Olen, co-author with Stephanie Losee of "Office Mate," a bookon the topic. Now, amid growing openness about sexuality and greaterequality between the sexes, she says, singles "are saying, 'Why isanybody even bothering to keep this secret at all?"'
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That doesn't mean all the old ruleshave changed. Affairs when one or both partners are married are stilltaboo. Nor is it OK to snuggle up behind the copier with your latestcrush. Employers still expect even the most out-there couples to behaveprofessionally.
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Dating your boss or subordinate isgenerally out of bounds, too. Court rulings in recent years havebroadened employers' exposure to sexual-harassment lawsuits, makingthis a more sensitive issue. A growing minority of employers havewritten policies requiring employees to disclose any romanticrelationships to a superior and allowing the employer to separate thepartners at work, says Manesh Rath, a Washington, D.C., employmentlawyer.
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Beyond that, though, employers realizethat trying to stamp out workplace courtship is like standing in frontof a speeding train. "The office keeps coming up as No. 1" in surveysas the best place to meet a mate, leading bosses to conclude that they"have to be cool about it," says Janet Lever, a professor of sociologyat California State University, Los Angeles, and a longtime researcheron office romance.
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To Stacie Taylor, who has been datinga co-worker for 3 ½ years, finding a significant other at the officeseems logical. "People spend so much of their time working that it'sunavoidable," says Ms. Taylor, 37, a professional developmentcoordinator at Zoot Enterprises, a Bozeman, Mont., technical-servicesprovider. Her boyfriend, Cary Costello, 29, a project manager, adds,"If you're around a bunch of like-minded people who have similarinterests, it's bound to happen."
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But office romances can have a negativespillover effect on co-workers. At Slingshot, a Dallasinteractive-advertising agency, one pair of co-workers who starteddating were equals on the job and behaved appropriately in the office,says Owen Hannay, chief executive. Nevertheless, when they startedgoing out to lunch with each other every day, co-workers on theirseven-person team "felt excluded, and it created a lot of negativity."The daters have left the company, Mr. Hannay says.
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Other couples take great pains toprevent fallout from their romance. Shortly after Erica Toth and BrianCarnevale started dating, colleagues in their 18-person office figuredit out. But the couple bent over backward to keep their relationshipfrom affecting others at the office of Text 100, a technologypublic-relations firm. They asked to be assigned to different projects,says Mr. Carnevale, 31, an account director.
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When new employees joined the firm,Ms. Toth, 28, an account manager, would tell them about their datingrelationship, she says, adding, "if for some reason you are concerned,let your manager know." And if she slipped up and called Mr. Carnevale"Honey" over lunch, he quickly corrected her. The couple also limittheir conversation based on, "what would my co-workers want to hear?"Ms. Toth (now Ms. Carnevale) says. After dating for three years asco-workers, they married and are now expecting their first child.
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Some employers, especially those witha lot of young workers, are taking a more neutral stance on officeromance. Cisco's dating policy, for example, "does not encourage ordiscourage consensual relationships in the workplace." Relationshipsbetween supervisors and subordinates, however, are "frowned upon" andmay result in a transfer or reassignment, the policy says.
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This leaves young couples who arepeers to navigate the office fishbowl on their own. When co-workersMichelle Walters and Ryan Scholz started dating, Mr. Scholz, aproduction manager for GMR Marketing, New Berlin, Wis., tried at firstto act in meetings as if their relationship didn't exist. But he hassince relaxed and become more casual about it, and both have gottenused to kidding from co-workers, says Ms. Walters, a project manager.
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GMR Chief Executive Gary Reynolds saysthe event-marketing company doesn't have a written dating policybecause its 500 employees are fine without one. He says, "Why try tomandate behavior and develop policy when you don't need it?"
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The biggest pitfall of office romancemay be its potential for messy breakups; 67% of 493 employers surveyedin 2006 by the Society for Human Resource Management cited as asignificant problem the possibility of retaliation by spurned ordisappointed lovers, up from 12% in 2001.
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The best vaccination against a badending is "a long corporate courtship," says GMR's Mr. Scholz. Hesuggests getting to know each other at lunch or group outings. Then ifit doesn't work out, "you have basically just broken up with your lunchbuddy."
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Indeed, many young office daters aretaking things slowly, reverting to painstaking relationship-buildingbecause they know their livelihoods are at risk. "People have thisnotion that these relationships are scuzzy meetings in the supplycloset, or Christmas-party affairs. In fact, it's just the opposite,"the author Ms. Olen says. "The office has become the last bastion ofold-fashioned courting."
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Jonathan Wolf met Emily Gudeman onlinewhen they were co-workers in different offices at a San Mateo, Calif.,Internet-marketing concern. They got to know each other throughinstant-messaging, phone calls and photos. After four months of remotecommunication, says Mr. Wolf, now a product manager for Bazaarvoice,Austin, Tex., "I had this virtual crush on this girl."
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After meeting—and mindful of the risksof office romance—they took months to get acquainted before theystarted dating. "We had a true courting, where we had to sit on thefront porch and just talk to each other" online and by phone, says Ms.Gudeman. Eventually she transferred to his office, where the pairworked together for another year. Although both have since moved on toseparate new employers, their five-year relationship is still goingstrong.
—Email [email protected].
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Originally Posted by Nktran001
Pics of the cute chick?
Originally Posted by nikeairon
Cool thanks the input y'all!
Originally Posted by toast1985
I'm struggling with it myself. But it' s been often asked (as w/ virtually every other question on her), and the answer is usually the same:
Career - No
Job - Yes.
qft. ive done it no problems.Originally Posted by QueenCitySneakerQueen
Originally Posted by toast1985
I'm struggling with it myself. But it' s been often asked (as w/ virtually every other question on her), and the answer is usually the same:
Career - No
Job - Yes.
This.
Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN
Originally Posted by nikeairon
Cool thanks the input y'all!
You responded almost 3 monts after you created this topicWhat's happened since then?