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congrats to Brook? lol
he should be getting a double-double almost every game
he should be getting a double-double almost every game
OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD : VOL. MOST. ANTICIPATED. PLAYOFFS. EVER?
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You talking about the thread asking when you became a fan of your team/heartbreaking moments as a fan and ppl describing and posting pics from different sports or just NBA?
|A-Man|
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You talking about the thread asking when you became a fan of your team/heartbreaking moments as a fan and ppl describing and posting pics from different sports or just NBA?
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*SHRUGS* We should be better than our record
I'm getting ready for the Wolves draft so I can start the "FIRE KAHN" chant and "HIRE KEVIN PRITCHARD"
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*SHRUGS* We should be better than our record
I'm getting ready for the Wolves draft so I can start the "FIRE KAHN" chant and "HIRE KEVIN PRITCHARD"
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Who in this year's draft can help them out though?
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Who in this year's draft can help them out though?
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Originally Posted by JapanAir21
Who in this year's draft can help them out though?
they'll be fine as long as they draft another PG
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Originally Posted by JapanAir21
Who in this year's draft can help them out though?
they'll be fine as long as they draft another PG
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Originally Posted by kvsm23vs24
This one? I remember because i made it
http://niketalk.yuku.com/...---want-----lists?page=1
nice... good looking out
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Originally Posted by kvsm23vs24
This one? I remember because i made it
http://niketalk.yuku.com/...---want-----lists?page=1
nice... good looking out
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Another PG againOriginally Posted by JapanAir21
Who in this year's draft can help them out though?
Im going just to start the Fire Kahn chants.
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Another PG againOriginally Posted by JapanAir21
Who in this year's draft can help them out though?
Im going just to start the Fire Kahn chants.
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Block for Dream!
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Block for Dream!
Dwight Howard may very well spend his prime years out of a Magic uniform.
The only thing Ric Bucher and Chris Broussard like to do more than report on the NBA is argue about the NBA. So we decided to combine those two skills for Insider's weekly One-on-One series, in which they'll debate the hottest topics in the association.
[h3]Question: If he decides to leave the Orlando Magic, where should Dwight Howard sign in 2012?[/h3]
BROUSSARD: It would be nice if Dwight Howard bucked the trend of superstars leaving home for greener pastures when he becomes a free agent in 2012, but there's a very good chance he won't. So, in the event that he does indeed leave, I argue he should take his talents not to South Beach but to Venice Beach and become the next great Los Angeles Lakers big man. The Lakers won't have the cap room to sign him outright, but I could see them offering up Andrew Bynum in a trade when the time comes.
BUCHER: If I were a betting man -- oh, wait, I AM a betting man -- I'd put my money on Howard going to the Lakers. It's what I've heard he'd like to do and, seeing as he seems to be working off the Shaquille O'Neal blueprint for career arcs (one NBA Finals appearance in Orlando, endless impersonations, free throw problems, Superman fixation), it almost seems preordained. But that's a big part of why I believe he shouldn't go there: It's been done, and the chances of Howard coming anywhere close to what Shaq did as a Laker are -- well, I'd bet on that, too. Against him.
If he wants to go to a big market, take advantage of his engaging personality off the court and make an indelible mark on the league, he goes to the New Jersey Nets, joins forces with Deron Williams and completely transforms the franchise, an achievement he will be remembered -- and cherished -- for forever.
CB: I don't dislike your idea. Dwight and Deron would be fabulous together, and by the time Dwight got there, the team would either be in Brooklyn or just a few months away. But Dwight is better suited for Los Angeles. With his goofy personality, I'm not sure he would enjoy the constant scrutiny and pressure that comes with playing in New York. It's very possible that he'd "lose the fun."
While we all know he may need to get a bit more serious, he still needs to maintain the essence of who he is -- a fun-loving, laid-back Southerner -- to be at his best. In L.A., he'd have the weather and Hollywood opportunities he desires, not to mention a media that's less harsh. That's a better fit overall.
RB: Losing some of that goofy personality wouldn't be the worst thing for Dwight. We're starting to see the benefits of that already: his orneriness over Orlando's struggles has produced some of his best basketball. If he truly wants to win championships more than be an entertainer, he loses nothing by getting more serious.
I hear you on the scrutiny of New York, but I have to believe the founding fathers of the Brooklyn Nets -- which is what Dwight and Deron would be -- would get a longer leash than most, because they chose Brooklyn and the moribund Nets over everywhere else. Besides, don't think for a minute that if Dwight doesn't deliver as Shaq did -- a very tall order -- Lakers fans won't let him know about it. Every day.
The Nets are, without question, the riskier pick. But they also offer the bigger reward. And while the Lakers have a great history, the fact is that they are about to undergo a major turnover, most notably Jerry Buss ceding authority to his son Jim. We saw how well that has worked with the Steinbrenners. Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov has no track record, but the trick he pulled on the New York Knicks, getting them to waaaaay overbid for Melo and then smuggling Deron out of Utah, shows he has some game. And we know he has rubles and is willing to spend them.
CB: Playing for the Lakers would put no more pressure on Dwight than playing elsewhere. He is going to be criticized if he doesn't win a ring no matter where he plays, especially if he has D-Will as a teammate.
The Laker tradition won't be a burden to Howard. Following Jerry West and Magic Johnson wasn't an extra burden on Kobe, and in Boston the Big Three isn't killed for winning only one title, despite that total paling in comparison to great Celtics of the past. Rather, it's a chance to be part of the best organization in basketball, one you know will be well-run and one that will spare no expense to win rings. It's like playing for the New York Yankees versus trying to start (restart) a winning tradition with the Pittsburgh Pirates.
In L.A., Dwight will be celebrated as the next great Lakers big -- following Mikan, Chamberlain, Abdul-Jabbar and Shaq. He will accept the torch from Kobe as the Lakers' top guy, yet Kobe will still be great enough to help him win titles, not to mention having Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom.
RB: If the new collective bargaining agreement is structured as the owners want it to be, the Lakers won't be able to add Howard even by trading Bynum for him, because they already have $47 million committed to Bryant and Pau Gasol in 2012. The Nets, however, would be able to put a package together featuring Brook Lopez for Howard, both of whom would be signed to contracts that fit under the new labor pact. And as unbelievable as Kobe has been in transforming his game to remain a championship-level closer, Howard would be far wiser to hook up with a 27-year-old Williams than a 34-year-old Bryant, since he certainly has more of a future with the former than the latter.
The only way Dwight is celebrated as the next Lakers big is if he wins rings -- as in multiples -- and, for all his improvement and gaudy numbers, there are still holes in his game. Going to Hollywood and being distracted by off-the-court enticements might be the worst thing for him as a basketball player. The comparison to the Big Three in Boston or Kobe doesn't work; the Celtics' stars weren't in their prime, as Howard will be in two years, and you're just dead wrong that the Lakers' legacy wasn't a burden for Kobe. He simply overcame it, as he has every other challenge. Dwight doesn't have that same DNA.
Fact is, as with any of the young stars today, winning one ring will be a monumental achievement. The parity is too great and the hard cap we're headed toward will only level the playing field even more. One ring in Brooklyn, for the Nets, would put Howard on a pedestal all his own. One ring in L.A. would make him the Laker Big Who Only Won One.
Dwight Howard may very well spend his prime years out of a Magic uniform.
The only thing Ric Bucher and Chris Broussard like to do more than report on the NBA is argue about the NBA. So we decided to combine those two skills for Insider's weekly One-on-One series, in which they'll debate the hottest topics in the association.
[h3]Question: If he decides to leave the Orlando Magic, where should Dwight Howard sign in 2012?[/h3]
BROUSSARD: It would be nice if Dwight Howard bucked the trend of superstars leaving home for greener pastures when he becomes a free agent in 2012, but there's a very good chance he won't. So, in the event that he does indeed leave, I argue he should take his talents not to South Beach but to Venice Beach and become the next great Los Angeles Lakers big man. The Lakers won't have the cap room to sign him outright, but I could see them offering up Andrew Bynum in a trade when the time comes.
BUCHER: If I were a betting man -- oh, wait, I AM a betting man -- I'd put my money on Howard going to the Lakers. It's what I've heard he'd like to do and, seeing as he seems to be working off the Shaquille O'Neal blueprint for career arcs (one NBA Finals appearance in Orlando, endless impersonations, free throw problems, Superman fixation), it almost seems preordained. But that's a big part of why I believe he shouldn't go there: It's been done, and the chances of Howard coming anywhere close to what Shaq did as a Laker are -- well, I'd bet on that, too. Against him.
If he wants to go to a big market, take advantage of his engaging personality off the court and make an indelible mark on the league, he goes to the New Jersey Nets, joins forces with Deron Williams and completely transforms the franchise, an achievement he will be remembered -- and cherished -- for forever.
CB: I don't dislike your idea. Dwight and Deron would be fabulous together, and by the time Dwight got there, the team would either be in Brooklyn or just a few months away. But Dwight is better suited for Los Angeles. With his goofy personality, I'm not sure he would enjoy the constant scrutiny and pressure that comes with playing in New York. It's very possible that he'd "lose the fun."
While we all know he may need to get a bit more serious, he still needs to maintain the essence of who he is -- a fun-loving, laid-back Southerner -- to be at his best. In L.A., he'd have the weather and Hollywood opportunities he desires, not to mention a media that's less harsh. That's a better fit overall.
RB: Losing some of that goofy personality wouldn't be the worst thing for Dwight. We're starting to see the benefits of that already: his orneriness over Orlando's struggles has produced some of his best basketball. If he truly wants to win championships more than be an entertainer, he loses nothing by getting more serious.
I hear you on the scrutiny of New York, but I have to believe the founding fathers of the Brooklyn Nets -- which is what Dwight and Deron would be -- would get a longer leash than most, because they chose Brooklyn and the moribund Nets over everywhere else. Besides, don't think for a minute that if Dwight doesn't deliver as Shaq did -- a very tall order -- Lakers fans won't let him know about it. Every day.
The Nets are, without question, the riskier pick. But they also offer the bigger reward. And while the Lakers have a great history, the fact is that they are about to undergo a major turnover, most notably Jerry Buss ceding authority to his son Jim. We saw how well that has worked with the Steinbrenners. Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov has no track record, but the trick he pulled on the New York Knicks, getting them to waaaaay overbid for Melo and then smuggling Deron out of Utah, shows he has some game. And we know he has rubles and is willing to spend them.
CB: Playing for the Lakers would put no more pressure on Dwight than playing elsewhere. He is going to be criticized if he doesn't win a ring no matter where he plays, especially if he has D-Will as a teammate.
The Laker tradition won't be a burden to Howard. Following Jerry West and Magic Johnson wasn't an extra burden on Kobe, and in Boston the Big Three isn't killed for winning only one title, despite that total paling in comparison to great Celtics of the past. Rather, it's a chance to be part of the best organization in basketball, one you know will be well-run and one that will spare no expense to win rings. It's like playing for the New York Yankees versus trying to start (restart) a winning tradition with the Pittsburgh Pirates.
In L.A., Dwight will be celebrated as the next great Lakers big -- following Mikan, Chamberlain, Abdul-Jabbar and Shaq. He will accept the torch from Kobe as the Lakers' top guy, yet Kobe will still be great enough to help him win titles, not to mention having Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom.
RB: If the new collective bargaining agreement is structured as the owners want it to be, the Lakers won't be able to add Howard even by trading Bynum for him, because they already have $47 million committed to Bryant and Pau Gasol in 2012. The Nets, however, would be able to put a package together featuring Brook Lopez for Howard, both of whom would be signed to contracts that fit under the new labor pact. And as unbelievable as Kobe has been in transforming his game to remain a championship-level closer, Howard would be far wiser to hook up with a 27-year-old Williams than a 34-year-old Bryant, since he certainly has more of a future with the former than the latter.
The only way Dwight is celebrated as the next Lakers big is if he wins rings -- as in multiples -- and, for all his improvement and gaudy numbers, there are still holes in his game. Going to Hollywood and being distracted by off-the-court enticements might be the worst thing for him as a basketball player. The comparison to the Big Three in Boston or Kobe doesn't work; the Celtics' stars weren't in their prime, as Howard will be in two years, and you're just dead wrong that the Lakers' legacy wasn't a burden for Kobe. He simply overcame it, as he has every other challenge. Dwight doesn't have that same DNA.
Fact is, as with any of the young stars today, winning one ring will be a monumental achievement. The parity is too great and the hard cap we're headed toward will only level the playing field even more. One ring in Brooklyn, for the Nets, would put Howard on a pedestal all his own. One ring in L.A. would make him the Laker Big Who Only Won One.
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Harrington just made Griffin do a split
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Harrington just made Griffin do a split
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Blake should have faked an injury or something cause that was ugly
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Blake should have faked an injury or something cause that was ugly
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