Official 2012 Boxing Thread: JMM/Manny IV - FOTY.

[illoquent aka dsk]

RIP.

 

[illphillip]

I just saw this....does anyone know the real deal?

[UPDATE: Despite earlier reports, Steward's family is now saying that the trainer is still very much alive. "At this point, I'm asking EVERYBODY to LEAVE US ALONE so that we can comfort and communicate with Emanuel," Diane Steward-Jones said in an email to the Detroit Free Press shortly after they released their previous report. "His surgical team just dropped by and scoffed at the reports he is dead."]

 

[gunna get it]

He has passed on.

 

[orsrt8]

Damn...Gonna be missed.
Jim Lampley has gotten emotional and teary eyed a few times during broadcast just talking about a fighter or the fight that just happened. Cant imagine how emotional he'll get during the next HBO telecast.

 

[stringer bell 32]

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[marvin hagler]

LOL... Dulorme got sparked.

 

[gunna get it]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...khan-contention-parkinson-182840518--box.html


Khan about Roach:
It's hard to see him older and getting worse. I wish him the best. Freddie, with the Parkinson's disease, he was struggling with instructions and couldn't move as well.
'
Roach resonse:
If that was true, why would he say to me, 'Fire Manny Pacquiao and Chavez Jr.', and they'll keep me? Him, his father, his lawyer and his uncle all said that. It had nothing to do with Parkinson's. Parkinson's had nothing to do with it. They know that. And I wish them the best of luck.

 

[shannonscrooks]

Amir at a crossroads.

 

[proshares]

Yea, it's not like we just watched a 24/7 where Freddie was moving well with JCC. Or it's not like we're gonna be watching one soon with him presumably moving well with Manny. Way to show class, Amir.

 

[freakydestroyer]

Before I had no reason to hate Amir Khan. What a scum bag.

 

[bigmike23]

Yea, it's not like we just watched a 24/7 where Freddie was moving well with JCC. Or it's not like we're gonna be watching one soon with him presumably moving well with Manny. Way to show class, Amir.

he doesnt do pad work with either guy anymore.you can tell he is losing his touch, he doesnt talk much durning fights anymore either

kahn is wrong for saying thats the reason he left because we all know it wasnt. but lets not act like roach has looked good.

 

[jay23oth]

Amir Khan str8 scum bag never liked him hope he gets rocked by Molina but Khan will easily dominate. I would hate to see him fight Mayweather he dont deserve it. I know its early guys but who's fighter of the year? KO of the year? I got Danny Garcia fighter of the year & KO of the year too with Khan.

 

[proshares]

he doesnt do pad work with either guy anymore.you can tell he is losing his touch, he doesnt talk much durning fights anymore either

kahn is wrong for saying thats the reason he left because we all know it wasnt. but lets not act like roach has looked good.

You sure Mike? I could have sworn I saw him doing pads with JCC. I'll see if I can find it.

 

[freakydestroyer]

Roach has definitely lost a step, but it's not the sole reason his fighters have been losing lately.

 

[951guero]

News on Bradley is he should be coming back on early 2013
Hope he gets the winner of Ghost v Berto

who yal got on Molina v Khan
Never really seen Molina box

 

[shaunhillftw49]

Amir Khan str8 scum bag never liked him hope he gets rocked by Molina but Khan will easily dominate. I would hate to see him fight Mayweather he dont deserve it. I know its early guys but who's fighter of the year? KO of the year? I got Danny Garcia fighter of the year & KO of the year too with Khan.

Molina might not win a one rd
Mare - Moreno winner should get FOTY or Donaire
Dannys ko wasn't good, just shocking

 

[freakydestroyer]

Amir Khan str8 scum bag never liked him hope he gets rocked by Molina but Khan will easily dominate. I would hate to see him fight Mayweather he dont deserve it. I know its early guys but who's fighter of the year? KO of the year? I got Danny Garcia fighter of the year & KO of the year too with Khan.

Molina might not win a one rd
Mare - Moreno winner should get FOTY or Donaire
Dannys ko wasn't good, just shocking

Martinez should get fighter of the year, unless I am forgetting someone.

 

[proshares]

Ward is going to win FOTY by beating a guy coming down in weight? Albeit a good fighter, you're not winning FOTY fighting just once.

No one really wowed but I guess it'd have to be Donaire now, especially if he's fighting Arce before EOY. Slow year.

 

[freakydestroyer]

Ward won last year And he only fought once this year.
I forgot that Mayweather mini me might get it.

 

[jking0821]

Ward won last year And he only fought once this year.
I forgot that Mayweather mini me might get it.

I hope broner doesn't win it

Honestly though they only performances that stick out as far as Fighter of the year is Ward and MArtinez. And what Ward did to Dawson is one of the most clinical displays of boxing i have seen in a really long time. I could see Donaire winning it though too.

Whether its true or isn't true what Amir said about Freddy you just don't say that. Say you guys just saw your career differently or something. Amir is dirty for that. He will dominate molina. He is a skilled boxer but that chin is straight suspect. Too bad molina won't test it.

 

[shannonscrooks]

Isnt Broner supposed to fight in AC this month? Can that even happen anymore?

 

[jay23oth]

Isnt Broner supposed to fight in AC this month? Can that even happen anymore?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/2262/despite-storm-demarco-broner-on

GBP still say it's still on def gonna be there hopefully Demarco will hurt him once in the fight.

 

[maddog345]

Sergio Martinez should win the award.

I could also see Nonito Donaire winning it because he has fought 3 times this year (4th is in the works if he fights Arce).
Hell, Danny Garcia might win the award.

 

[freakydestroyer]

Bute is donezo. He lost his heart and soul.

 

[GTA 809]

http://www.google.com/gwt/x?wsc=vb&...1049763/1009/sports&ei=UZOWUNHRGcO1mwfvgoDQCg

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Sunday, November 4, 2012

Boxing: Half-million-dollar fight dangled in front of Edwin Rodriguez


Edwin Rodriguez’s next fight likely will be at Madison Square Garden on Jan. 19. (T&G Staff/STEVE LANAVA)

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For a few hours on Friday, Worcester super middleweight

Edwin “La Bomba” Rodriguez

was nearly bumped into a whole new tax bracket.

As it turned out, the undefeated USBA champion (22-0-0, 15 knockouts) was spared having to make a tortuous decision — whether to accept a fight worth almost half a million dollars, but risk suffering his first pro defeat against one of the best pound-for-pound fighters out there, which would have set back his world championship quest by about a year.

The opportunity that was dangled briefly in front of Rodriguez and his manager, Larry Army Jr., was a nontitle bout against Kazakhstan-born

Gennady Golovkin (24-0-0, 21 KOs), a hands-of-stone middleweight billed as the best-kept secret in boxing, in an HBO main event at Madison Square Garden on Jan. 19.

Rodriguez’s share of the purse reportedly was to be close to $500,000, with another quarter-million or so in training expenses. That would have been more than twice his previous largest payday.

But, in the end, Golovkin’s people — especially his promoter, K2 Promotions, run by heavyweight champion brethren

Wladimir and Vitaly Klitschko — appear to have settled instead on fighting Rodriguez’s DiBella Promotions stablemate,

Thomas Oosthuizen of South Africa (20-0-1, 13), also a super middleweight.

Rodriguez isn’t totally out of the picture, Army said, but “it looks like the reality” is that “La Bomba” will end up fighting a still-to-be-determined opponent — probably a top-10 foe — in the televised co-feature of the Golovkin-Oosthuizen card at MSG on Jan. 19.

Golovkin, the WBA and IBO middleweight champion, will move up to 168 pounds against Oosthuizen, just as he would have against Rodriguez.

Oosthuizen, because of his lower visibility, will be paid considerably less than what was offered to Rodriguez, who is not only the USBA champion and has more TV exposure, but also is ranked No. 3 in the world by both the WBC and the IBF.

Oosthuizen, who holds the flimsy IBO belt at 168 pounds and is ranked 6th by the WBC and 4th by the IBF, has fought only three times in the U.S., and mostly against opposition not as stiff as Rodriguez’s.

Army admitted that a fight against the 30-year-old Golovkin would have been “extremely risky from our standpoint.” Golovkin has knocked out his last 11 opponents — 10 of them in five rounds or less — and claims to have lost only once in more than 370 pro and amateur fights, that being to Russia’s

Gaydardek Gaydarbekov

in the gold-medal final at the 2004 Athens Olympics.

Golovkin’s list of amateur victims reads like a who’s who of boxing greats — Lucian Bute, Andy Lee, Andre Dirrell

and Oleg Mashkin.

It’s worth checking this guy out on YouTube.com. He has forearms like Popeye, packs devastating power in even his short punches, and left

Kassim “The Dream” Ouma’s face looking like a scary Halloween mask after a 10th-round TKO in 2011.

Part of Golovkin’s anonymity stems from the fact that he fought almost exclusively in Germany as a pro. He didn’t make his American debut until his most recent fight, a fifth-round TKO of

Grezegorz Proska (28-2) on Sept. 1 in Verona, N.Y., televised by HBO.

It appears that Team Rodriguez won’t have to wrestle with that difficult decision about whether to fight Golovkin, although Army said his fighter “is still in the discussion.” But the idea of paying Oosthuizen half of what Rodriguez would have gotten sounds pretty good to K2.

“On the one hand, I think it was a fight that Edwin could win,” Army said. “But the amount of money that we were talking would have certainly compensated us for the risk involved.

“Edwin’s very disappointed because he wanted the fight. But to me, honestly, if not this, something else. Something always comes up, and we’re in a great position.”

Super middleweight title doors are indeed opening up in the WBC, IBF and WBA, where Rodriguez is ranked No. 8.

First of all, the IBF has ordered Carl Froch to defend that title against second-ranked Adonis Stevenson by February. Froch is expected to defy the order in favor of a megabout against either

Andre Ward or Bute, which would result in Froch being stripped of that belt.

The WBA, meanwhile, has ordered Ward, the WBA/WBC Super champ, to fight the winner of the Dec. 12 WBA “regular” title bout between

Mikkel Kessler and Brian Magee. If Ward refuses, he gets stripped by the WBA. If he accepts, the WBC will strip him of that belt for accommodating a rival organization.

That adds up to three possible world title chances for Rodriguez fairly early in 2013.

“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Edwin’s megafight is just around the corner,” Army said. “It may be in January — it looks unlikely that he’ll fight the big-money fight that we’ve been looking for in January (against Golovkin), but we still may get an HBO date in January, which timing-wise could certainly help get us to the finish line in terms of getting one of those other three belts.”

City vs. city in Portland

The USA Boxing New England Championships began last night in Portland, Maine, with at least nine Worcester fighters in the competition.

The most intriguing bout, in the 132-pound open division, pitted a pair of city fighters against each other last night — Junior Olympics 15-16-year-old champion

Jamaine Ortiz of the Boys & Girls Club of Worcester, trained by

Carlos Garcia, against Rance Andino of Worcester’s Camp Get Right, trained by Kendrick Ball.

Actually, Garcia has an interest in both combatants. He not only trained Adino’s father, but he used to fight and train alongside Adino’s grandfather,

Luis Falu. For that matter, Garcia got Ball started in the fight game, too, a long time ago.

“God bless the fight,” Garcia said.

It’s a similar setup for the super heavyweight final, scheduled for Nov. 24. That will be Worcester’s 223-pound

Owen Minor, now a Ball disciple at Camp Get Right, against 208-pound Demek Elmonds, trained by Garcia at the BGCW.

Minor, who went all the way to the final four of the National Golden Gloves in May before losing, has set his sights on the USA Boxing title as compensation. Rodriguez is the only Worcester fighter ever to win that event, doing it as a middleweight in 2006.

Garcia, of course, also trained Minor, and so that battle with Elmonds will also be a taffy pull of emotions for the veteran boxing coach and trainer.

“The love that I’ve got for Owen is bigger than anything,” Garcia said. “I want my guy now (Elmonds) to do the best he can, I don’t want to let my guy down, you know what I mean? I wish both guys could win. This happened once before and my heart cried (for the loser).

“It’s going to be real interesting. What can I say? I have to pull for my guy in my corner and Kendrick has to pull for his guy, but in the end, we’re still family, no matter what. Love is separate from competition.”

Other Camp Get Right boxers fighting in Portland are Khiary Gray-Pitts, who is taking on Jason Quick of Portland, 165-pound open division;

Brandon Brouillard, 152-pound sub-novice; and three women — Allie Lavigne

of Sterling, 132-pound open; Deanna Supneor, 141-pound novice; and Adyis Lima, 118- or 125-pound novice.

Bud Barth can be contacted at [email protected].

I hope I can score some tickets on the cheap. These arent household names and MSG needs to start pricing better since they are competing with Barclay Center now.

A Golovkin fight wont disappoint and I've hopped on the "la Bomba" wagon. I want to see these dudes fight some day, but not yet.