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It's not just about Dirk, it's about a transition AFTER Dirk. You have him for his last years, his shooting touch will be the last thing to go. You compete for as long as you can with those three, and then you have a franchise that has shown for over a decade now that it is committed to winning.Originally Posted by Buc Em
I mean really though.....those are the pieces besides Dirk heading into his 15th season that you're selling to him? Humphries has been a damn beast this year, Crash is as good as a complemetary type player that you can get for a contending team, Morrow is one of the best shooters in the league, Lopez is a 23 year old 7 footer that gets you 20 and 8-9 boards when healthy (he played in all 82 games his first 3 years in the league btw) and MarShon is a 23 year old that's averaging 14 a game, has dropped 20+ numerous times this year and is only going to get better. Plus they still have another 1st rounder in the upcoming draft besides the one that they gave up and a bunch of other cap room to be able to sign a few solid role players. All of this plus being the face of a brand new team in a brand new NBA city in NYC with marketing opportunities out the #*$. That sounds like a lot brighter future than almost everybody is giving the Nets credit for. I don't think Deron's leaving....and I think the Mavs are going to be +%*$%+ next year when all their left with next year is Dirk.Originally Posted by JapanAir21
I don't see Humphries, Lopez, Crash, and Brooks as a group of guys that scream out star power.
I wouldn't want to be involved on that team.
Plus, yeah it's just Dirk, but you've seen Cuban's commitment to go get talent. He's virtually the only cat that hasn't been able to land a huge superstar to add to his roster, but still is competent enough to put together a winning basketball team.
If we land Deron next year, I have complete faith that some dudes will come on board for a year just to try and win a championship. Dirk's stock has never been higher, Deron is still one of the best PGs in the game, you have an owner who will do whatever it takes to win, and a head coach that can manage a team.
Plus it keeps up flexible the following year to try and lure Dwight.
Beaubois, Dirk, and Marion are enough to bring Deron to Dallas, IMO. And Vince and Kidd will probably be with the team still too. Jason Terry, doubtful, but we'll see.
And then with the allure of eventually having room and flexibility to sign Dwight the following year...
The salary cap is only going to get larger within next few years, and that only helps the situation.
If Crash is such a great complementary player, why hasn't he ever helped a team out of the first round? Humphries, Brooks, Morrow, and Lopez are cool and all, but all of them are inexperienced. Look at which teams won in the Conference Finals last year, both veteran ball clubs.
How many young kids helped Dallas win last year? Barea was the youngest. It was all Kidd, JET, Dirk, Tyson, Marion, Peja, Stevenson, etc. Cats that been in the league for a WHILE now. You want to win, you need veterans. When was last time a team that was really young won? Mavericks? No. Lakers? No. Celtics? No. Spurs? No. Heat kind of were, but had Shaq and other vets. Detroit was a group of veterans.
In actuality, even if we lose out on Deron, which will be a damn lot, the only thing different next year is we'll have Kidd for cheaper, and JET probably gone. JET being gone will hurt, absolutely, but he isn't the cornerstone. Beaubois isn't as good, but he's shown recently that he can score much easier than JET can. He's getting efficient again.
But, let's take a step back a minute and look at this man....
Dallas, a franchise who has tinkered and tinkered to try and get it right WITHOUT getting any superstars finally has the chance to next year with Deron, and the following with Dwight. Deron can go home, a place he's always loved to play for, and compete at. This isn't Chris Bosh not really liking Dallas. Deron loved it here, still does. And you have a franchise who's committed to winning. The Nets are committed to winning? That's why they haven't made the Playoffs with Deron right? And they won't again this year, even with the changes. What moves can they make next year to make them significantly better? What has Billy King shown Deron Williams that they are committed to winning?
Not much.
If Deron was committed to winning in Jersey, he would have signed a contract extension. He hasn't. He won't.
Brooklyn is cool and all, but I don't think that's him. I'm not banking my future on Humphries, Brooks, and Lopez.
What's the bigger appeal, playing in a great city with mediocre talent? Or trying to build a dynasty in your hometown where you're loved before you even played a game for the city where you grew up?
If Deron and Dwight want to really play together, which it seems like they do, they'll figure something out. And Deron really wants to go to Dallas.
Now let me put my homer cap on for a second, but if Beaubois can continue to develop, he can be just as good as Brooks. Beaubois' rookie year was phenomenal. He's had setbacks since then. He's never going to be a PG, but he can be a SG. Deron, Dwight, and Dirk out there with Beaubois is just as appealing as Dwight, Deron, Brooks, and whatever other name you want to throw at me from the Nets roster.
Guys like Humphries, Lopez, and Morrow? You can find dudes like that all over the NBA. Dallas can find that talent, and then some.
Tell me some players wouldn't want to go pony up with Dwight/Deron in Dallas...
Players love playing with Dwight now because of all the crap he makes up for defensively for guys. Deron took a team full of semi-good players to the WCF.