Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

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I wouldn't, he's not as good as either of them. He's a better scorer than Rondo but that's where it stops
 
IMO neither Vince or Tracy deserve to in the HOF. If they get in then every player who plays 12+ seasons and has a career average of 20 ppg gets in.
Im not sure Paul Pierce or Grant Hill deserve to be in the hof.

Except Vince had 5 rebounds and nearly 4 assists a game as well.
 
IMO neither Vince or Tracy deserve to in the HOF. If they get in then every player who plays 12+ seasons and has a career average of 20 ppg gets in.
Im not sure Paul Pierce or Grant Hill deserve to be in the hof.
Paul Pierce has over 24,000 points, 6,000 rebounds, 4,000 assists, (one of 10 players with those numbers), a Finals MVP, he'll be top 25 in win shares by the end of the season, but he's not a HOFer?

What is going on in here?
 
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IMO neither Vince or Tracy deserve to in the HOF. If they get in then every player who plays 12+ seasons and has a career average of 20 ppg gets in.
You do realize there aren't that many guys who do that, right? Or was that sarcasm?

There's less than 20 guys in the history of basketball who have VC's career totals in points boards & assists. He's undoubtedly a HOF'er.
 
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but sure, we can go to 01

Shaq
Timmy
Kidd
Kobe
TMac
CWebb
Antoine Walker
Paul Pierce
AI
KG
Gary Payton
Dirk


If it's '01 we talkin' about then it's pretty much arguable that VC was way better than Walker, Pierce and Dirk during that time.
 
but sure, we can go to 01

Shaq

Timmy

Kidd

Kobe

TMac

CWebb

Antoine Walker

Paul Pierce

AI

KG

Gary Payton

Dirk
MJ 
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can someone explain how rose is head and shoulders better than russy?

edit: w/o talking about rose's mvp
 
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IMO neither Vince or Tracy deserve to in the HOF. If they get in then every player who plays 12+ seasons and has a career average of 20 ppg gets in.

Im not sure Paul Pierce or Grant Hill deserve to be in the hof.

Paul Pierce has over 24,000 points, 6,000 rebounds, 4,000 assists, (one of 10 players with those numbers), a Finals MVP, he'll be top 25 in win shares by the end of the season, but he's not a HOFer?

What is going on in here?

arguably the greatest celtic of all time. brought a champion ship to boston, finals mvp. so many all stars

hes got everything :lol
 
can someone explain how rose is head and shoulders better than russy?

edit: w/o talking about rose's mvp

He's not, at all.

There was even an in depth article posted a couple pages back that illustrated how close they are and how by most objective accounts Westbrook may be better.

I expect that type of ignorance in here at this time of the year though so it's all to the good.
 
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Rose usually gets the nod above Russ because Rose is the number one option.
 
Do you guys think Roy Hibbert can make that jump next season & start playing like he did against Miami on a regular basis??
 
True but that doesn't mean that he is any more effective or valuable than Russ. Any player besides Bron and including Rose would be a second option to KD. If you take Russ off of the Thunder they are worse off than the Bulls without Rose. Also if individual defense enters the equation, once again, Russ is better.
 
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Do you guys think Roy Hibbert can make that jump next season & start playing like he did against Miami on a regular basis??
Yes and no.

I think he will improve a bit (I hope his wrist is fully recovered), but it won't be measurable by traditional stats. Especially since the Pacers never play him more than 30 minutes a night during the regular season. But at the very least he'll be a great rim protector, decent rebounder and presence offensively.
 
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