OFFICIAL 2015 NBA PLAYOFF THREAD (NBA FINALS SET; GSW V. CLE - (But we have a whole week before the

[cashbanks]

What's Phil Jacksons finals record?

 

[abubakr shaheed]

What's Phil Jacksons finals record?

11-2 right?

 

[trueprada]

 
timmy and shaq deserve to be in here too

+1

 

[sea manup]

 

What's Phil Jacksons finals record?

11-2 right?

yup

2-0 as a player too im pretty sure 

GCOAT

 

[abematic]

bulls would not make it out of the first round in the west but get hyped to be a contender every year

How do you know this? Lol you know Bulls got a over .500 winning record against western teams right?

 

[dman14]

doc is still undefeated with a healthy perkins

 

[noblekane]

How do you know this? Lol you know Bulls got a over .500 winning record against western teams right?

Because the bulls got washed by a struggling lebron james and a maximum injured team.

It was basically lebron, dealadildo, and jr smith and smith was out for two games

If you couldnt get past that yup you aint getting out the first round in the west

 

[abubakr shaheed]

doc is still undefeated with a healthy perkins

what does it say when that bum decides to go to cleveland over the clippers. paul pierce too

 

[abubakr shaheed]

Because the bulls got washed by a struggling lebron james and a maximum injured team.

It was basically lebron, dealadildo, and jr smith and smith was out for two games

If you couldnt get past that yup you aint getting out the first round in the west

come on they could have beat the mavs, pelicans and blazers. if they matched up anywhere else first round exit

AND you just said you would pick the cavs over both warriors and rockets so how do you fit that logic into your analysis

 

[jc619er]

People kill me in his thread. A title is a title. It's hard to play that many rounds of playoffs and come out on top. Doesn't matter who you face, it's tough. You could go through every finals in NBA history and make a case for the winning team that they didn't have a hard enough road. It's like if a team doesn't beat four teams worthy of the finals it's not a legit trophy. ****

 

[noblekane]

doc is still undefeated with a healthy perkins

Hes still undefeated in the playoffs when his son starts for him at point guard

 

[abematic]

Because the bulls got washed by a struggling lebron james and a maximum injured team.

It was basically lebron, dealadildo, and jr smith and smith was out for two games

If you couldnt get past that yup you aint getting out the first round in the west

On paper, sure. While the game was being played, there were plays that were being called for wildly.
Besides Game 6 where Bulls gave up, Bulls could contend. Let's not act as if Cavs is lesser than Memphis, Clippers, portland etc.
And if by that logic, New Orleans would be in the semi OR ECF right? Or OKC would be the in the 2nd round? Lol I'm using ya'll logic

 

[noblekane]

come on they could have beat the mavs, pelicans and blazers. if they matched up anywhere else first round exit

AND you just said you would pick the cavs over both warriors and rockets so how do you fit that logic into your analysis

I have never seen a more awful offense than i did the bulls in that series.

 

[abubakr shaheed]

I have never seen a more awful offense than i did the bulls in that series.

can't argue that

 

[abematic]

Wait, a struggling Lebron? Lebron was anything but struggling. He carried the Cavs, played two great games, the others, he became a force penetrating and facilitating.

 

[abematic]

I have never seen a more awful offense than i did the bulls in that series.

Truth. That's what happens when your coach is a defensive guru, Strictly. Ron Adam is missed, especially considering how Warriors are doing.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

The whole "The East is weaker" argument is lame AF. Its a tired excuse.
Damn near every one of Jordan's championships the East was weaker than the West.

Nobody out here sayin, Jordan had an easy road to the Finals every year.

Because MJ didn't have a cakewalk to the Finals every year ..

1991 - Detroit or Boston would've washed the Lakers in the Finals if it wasn't for MJ .. having to deal with Bird/McHale (don't care about their ages) and the Bad Boys of Detroit during that era is no easy road no matter how you slice it.

1992 - Portland was the best team in the West that year, 4 teams in the West won over 50 games, same goes for the East. Bulls were clearly the most superior team in the league that year.

1993 - Very competitive year for the West, Rockets, Suns, Sonics started to become better teams. Still, everyone had the Knicks penciled in as the favorite if they could get past the Bulls.

1996 - I'd give the West the edge this year, more balanced this season compared to previous years, East was only top heavy with Orlando and Chicago running the show. Seattle won 64 games that year though, let's not act like MJ played the expansion Vancouver Grizzles in the Finals.

1997 - Not even close this season, the East by a landslide. The East had 6 teams win OVER 54 GAMES that year. Only threat in the West was Utah. No one else.

1998 - West regained control, much better than the East, had 3 teams with over 60 wins. Only threat in the East was Indy who pushed Chicago to 7 games in the ECF.

So, with all that said, the West had a better overall conference 2 out of the 6 times MJ won a ring IMO. The dog fights he went thru vs Boston & Detroit early on and then with Miami, NY, and Indy during the second run was incredible.

And this isn't a shot at Bron or taking anything away from him, just stating the obvious that the East is much, much weaker in comparison to MJ's era. Not even close.

 

[noblekane]

Wait, a struggling Lebron? Lebron was anything but struggling. He carried the Cavs, played two great games, the others, he became a force penetrating and facilitating.

He shot like trevor ariza normally does in that series

Probably the worst shooting performance of his career in that series

 

[sea manup]

 

The whole "The East is weaker" argument is lame AF. Its a tired excuse.
Damn near every one of Jordan's championships the East was weaker than the West.

Nobody out here sayin, Jordan had an easy road to the Finals every year.

Because MJ didn't have a cakewalk to the Finals every year ..

1991 - Detroit or Boston would've washed the Lakers in the Finals if it wasn't for MJ .. having to deal with Bird/McHale (don't care about their ages) and the Bad Boys of Detroit during that era is no easy road no matter how you slice it.

1992 - Portland was the best team in the West that year, 4 teams in the West won over 50 games, same goes for the East. Bulls were clearly the most superior team in the league that year.

1993 - Very competitive year for the West, Rockets, Suns, Sonics started to become better teams. Still, everyone had the Knicks penciled in as the favorite if they could get past the Bulls.

1996 - I'd give the West the edge this year, more balanced this season compared to previous years, East was only top heavy with Orlando and Chicago running the show. Seattle won 64 games that year though, let's not act like MJ played the expansion Vancouver Grizzles in the Finals.

1997 - Not even close this season, the East by a landslide. The East had 6 teams win OVER 54 GAMES that year. Only threat in the West was Utah. No one else.

1998 - West regained control, much better than the East, had 3 teams with over 60 wins. Only threat in the East was Indy who pushed Chicago to 7 games in the ECF.

So, with all that said, the West had a better overall conference 2 out of the 6 times MJ won a ring IMO. The dog fights he went thru vs Boston & Detroit early on and then with Miami, NY, and Indy during the second run was incredible.

And this isn't a shot at Bron or taking anything away from him, just stating the obvious that the East is much, much weaker in comparison to MJ's era. Not even close.

to add to this, the argument doesnt work with jordan because after destroying the east (weak or not) he also destroyed the best team in the west (6-0)

lebron destroys the east but has a losing record vs the clearly stronger west teams 

 

[sea manup]

Wait, a struggling Lebron? Lebron was anything but struggling. He carried the Cavs, played two great games, the others, he became a force penetrating and facilitating.

31 points on 26 shots with 4 turnovers

that's a statline you would expect from kobe in 2015, not lebron

 

[flyerthandelta]

The whole "The East is weaker" argument is lame AF. Its a tired excuse.
Damn near every one of Jordan's championships the East was weaker than the West.

Nobody out here sayin, Jordan had an easy road to the Finals every year.

Because MJ didn't have a cakewalk to the Finals every year ..

1991 - Detroit or Boston would've washed the Lakers in the Finals if it wasn't for MJ .. having to deal with Bird/McHale (don't care about their ages) and the Bad Boys of Detroit during that era is no easy road no matter how you slice it.

1992 - Portland was the best team in the West that year, 4 teams in the West won over 50 games, same goes for the East. Bulls were clearly the most superior team in the league that year.

1993 - Very competitive year for the West, Rockets, Suns, Sonics started to become better teams. Still, everyone had the Knicks penciled in as the favorite if they could get past the Bulls.

1996 - I'd give the West the edge this year, more balanced this season compared to previous years, East was only top heavy with Orlando and Chicago running the show. Seattle won 64 games that year though, let's not act like MJ played the expansion Vancouver Grizzles in the Finals.

1997 - Not even close this season, the East by a landslide. The East had 6 teams win OVER 54 GAMES that year. Only threat in the West was Utah. No one else.

1998 - West regained control, much better than the East, had 3 teams with over 60 wins. Only threat in the East was Indy who pushed Chicago to 7 games in the ECF.

So, with all that said, the West had a better overall conference 2 out of the 6 times MJ won a ring IMO. The dog fights he went thru vs Boston & Detroit early on and then with Miami, NY, and Indy during the second run was incredible.

And this isn't a shot at Bron or taking anything away from him, just stating the obvious that the East is much, much weaker in comparison to MJ's era. Not even close.

 

[georgescorewell]

Stay tuned for your regularly scheduled discrediting of Lebron...

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

This gif though

 

[hometownhero]

 

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. He's been able to skate.

one can easily refute that Kobe rode Shaq's coattails to the first three titles though. 

was kobe a scrub on those teams or did he put up all star numbers? i forget.....

 

youre changing the narrative in hindsight after lebron won his titles. that wasnt what people were saying during the actualy time of those series.

EXACTLY!!
Before the excuses came ALL those teams were expected to beat Bron team. Yet when Bron wins its "oh they started Bogen" LOL
SO MANY EXCUSES!

most of those teams weren't expected to beat whatever team he was on. people used their bias (against him) to rationalize why the other team would win. happens here 8/10 posts. 

A team with LeBron James (who is still great of course), an injured Kyrie, two former Knick social media celebs, an Australian who most didn't think would get drafted and a Canadian big man who just learned its easier to score with your dominant hand shouldn't be this good consistently.

Did I read that right saying Shaq has 3 Ls in the finals? 

 

[darthska]

[quote name="trueprada"]

NBA Finals Record:
(- Magic: 5-4)
- Michael Jordan: 6-0
(- Timmy: 5-1)
- Kobe Bryant: 5-2
(- Shaq: 4-1)
- LeBron James: 2-3

[/quote] Fixed.