Official 2017 Knicks Offseason thread, Phil Jackson gone

[njavier03]

i understand that tanking helps our future, so that we can POTENTIALLY draft a great player to pair with KP, Melo and the rest of our young guys. however, i'm a competitor in everything i do, and losing ON PURPOSE just isn't in my blood. even though i flip flop between hoping we get a good pick or making the playoffs, the latter always wins out. again, drafting in the top 5 doesn't guarantee us anything. there are so many busts, that unless we're talking about a Lebron or Russ, i can't fully have faith in the draft. just look at KP, few of us thought that he would be as good as he his now. even fewer would've thought that Okafor and Mudiay would be so underwhelming after 2 seasons.

 

[nick.]

Having a top 5 pick guarantees nothing but it's a much better chance to draft an impact player

 

[squatchnt]

The guard I like most in the draft........ Lonzo Ball. He appears to be the only true pg, the other top prospects look like your common scoring pg's jmo

 

[njavier03]

Naw, no to Lonzo's pops

 

[chadleroy]

Naw, no to Lonzo's pops

The media would eat it up

 

[squatchnt]

Naw, no to Lonzo's pops

Bruh went to the Richard Williams school for father coaching :x Pops aside, Lonzo is the only one I see fitting the triangle (i'm just speaking on the top guys with limited info, haven't seen any of these cats play more than 2 games)

 

[floodarea]

Even though I kinda understand the dudes frustrations I can't wait for him to get the F up outta here 

 

[nick.]

Hornacek finally opening up to the tank

 

[the 718 truth]

"Do I have a choice?"

 

[flyeed]

Word first thing I thought of when I read that is Hornacek upgrading da tank

 

[nick.]

“It’s a huge difference,” Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress.com said Thursday on The 4 Quarters Podcast. “If you look at historically what you can expect to get get in the top three, in the top five, in the top 10, and then once you get outside of the Top 10 the dropoff is just enormous. You’re pretty much drafting a backup 75 percent of the time once you get outside the Top 10.”

The difference between landing, say the No. 7 pick versus the No. 11 pick, could be huge in terms of building around Porzingis and Carmelo Anthony going forward.

“If you’re asking is the player they get at 7 or at 4 significantly different than the player they get at 11 or 13 or 15, yeah it’s huge,” Givony said. “This draft is not that great that there are 15 starters that are gonna go from 1-15. That’s not how it works.

“And so everybody’s tripping over themselves tying to overstate how great this draft is, how deep it is. We don’t know who’s gonna be in the draft, first of all.

“So I’m not necessarily sold on the depth of this draft. Once you get outside the Top 10 or 11, I think it becomes a fairly ordinary draft pretty quickly.”

 

[Master Zik]

Why does Givony's opinion matter?

He aint even saying anything new.

 

[Mark Antony]

Watching an OKC game for the first time this season, who the **** are any of these dudes aside from Russell?

 

[nick.]

A Portland win tonight puts us tied for the 8th pick

 

[the 718 truth]

Watching a Russell game for the first time this season.

Fixed. Can't lie I probably watch as many OKC games as Knicks games (sue me), still far more entertaining than our squad.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Draft a stud PG to pair with KP for next 10 years or get swept in the 1st round. Seems like rather get swept is the consensus here

Bunch of wackadoo's I tell ya

 

[worldbeefreeg]

There is no such thing as a bad three for KP at this point.

He doesn't get enough good looks in the half-court when Rose/Melo monopolize the ball so he takes those cause it's one of the clean catch-and-shoot looks that he can consistently get.

And Givony is right.

This draft isnt loaded with superstars but it has a lot of interesting guys in the top 6-7.

Outside of that it's really mediocre.

We have a really easy stretch of games coming up, Philly, Brooklyn, Orlando. This organization needs to put Melo on a flight to PR and let him rest for the next month.

 

[dmvisrnb]

"Even with a record of 25-36, the Knicks are just 4.0 games back of the No. 8 seed with 21 games remaining on the schedule. New York is also 5.5 games back of the No. 7 seed and 6.0 games back of the No. 6 seed.

Hope remains in New York City.

Fresh off of a 101-90 victory over the Orlando Magic, New York has a favorable stretch of games ahead of it. Five of its next six games are on the road, but the opponents include the Philadelphia 76ers, Magic, Milwaukee Bucks, Detroit Pistons, and Brooklyn Nets.

All five of those teams are below .500, which implies that there’s something of a level playing field."


Time to make a push. Losers take a nap

 

[everysingletime]

"Even with a record of 25-36, the Knicks are just 4.0 games back of the No. 8 seed with 21 games remaining on the schedule. New York is also 5.5 games back of the No. 7 seed and 6.0 games back of the No. 6 seed.

Hope remains in New York City.

Fresh off of a 101-90 victory over the Orlando Magic, New York has a favorable stretch of games ahead of it. Five of its next six games are on the road, but the opponents include the Philadelphia 76ers, Magic, Milwaukee Bucks, Detroit Pistons, and Brooklyn Nets.

All five of those teams are below .500, which implies that there’s something of a level playing field."


Time to make a push. Losers take a nap

True. But Knicks also face a bunch of playoff teams to end the season too. It will be close.

 

[njavier03]

maybe they'll go on a streak, get their rhythm and then beat some of those teams

 

[squatchnt]

KP to the Daily News regarding the triangle, "I applaud it, we should have been running it all season"

 

[Air Pope]

KP to the Daily News regarding the triangle, "I applaud it, we should have been running it all season"

crying

 

[nick.]

KP to the Daily News regarding the triangle, "I applaud it, we should have been running it all season"

I picture him saying this with a smirk on his face

 

[Master Zik]

 

[ballinsam23]

The triangle will save us.