Official 2017 Knicks Offseason thread, Phil Jackson gone

[redd spyder]

Dlo and Clarkson only way to go for that pick. Dlo might mess up mel... man never mind

 

[njavier03]

Idk. I think DLo could use guidance from a real one like Melo.

 

[bm35]

if phil pulls that off you can tell some stuff went down under the table with jeanie. phil a nasty old man.

 

[Master Zik]

You guys still with the crazy dumb trades.

Yall deserve Phil

 

[the 718 truth]

 

[ballinsam23]

Clyde Frazier did all he could. He had a crazy, loud purple and gold suit tailored and brought along his two NBA championship rings and his lucky chain. But none of it mattered after the Knicks landed in the eighth spot in the June NBA draft during Tuesday night’s lottery in Manhattan.

“We were hoping for a better pick,” Frazier said after the Celtics, Lakers and 76ers claimed the top three spots.

It begs the question whether this was the last disappointment of the 2016-17 season or the first dubious sign of a just as frustrating 2017-18. All signs point to the latter.

Team president Phil Jackson said afterward he was hopeful the Knicks could acquire “someone who can contribute this year.” But it would be foolish to think one single player is going to turn the Knicks into a winner.

The Knicks won’t get any better until they change the culture that has doomed the past two seasons and frustrated Kristaps Porzingis to the point he skipped his exit meeting with Jackson at the conclusion of last season.

“He’s probably frustrated, like all of us, with the season that we had,” said Frazier, who 50 years ago was the Knicks first-round draft choice, selected No. 5 overall.

It is more than that. Let’s face it. If you serve steak on a garbage can lid, it is going to ruin the steak. Tuesday night the Knicks were searching for a chance at steak without offering any hint how they plan to clean up their own issues.

There is no way to feel comfortable about anyone the Knicks select in next month’s draft, having seen what has happened to Porzingis, the No. 4 overall pick in 2015. Though there was plenty of head scratching the night he was selected, given he was a virtual unknown in America, it didn’t take long for Jackson and the Knicks to hear praise for the 7-foot-3 Latvian. Two years later, Porzingis is frustrated with the direction of the team. Not good.

Also, it is fair to question whether the Knicks can develop a high draft pick, after watching Porzingis struggle with inconsistency and play more talent than structure. He played in 66 games and averaged 18.1 points after, averaging 14.3 during his rookie season. And though most of his other numbers were up across the board, it was clear Porzingis struggled with his health and his game, especially in January — when he went through a three-week stretch where he missed six of 10 games with injury.

It also became clear Porzingis wasn’t happy with the way Carmelo Anthony was being treated. Jackson seemed to take shots at the Knicks leader throughout the season — whether it was a confidant criticizing Anthony’s game or Jackson endorsing articles with the same message. Before the ink was dry on the Knicks season, Jackson said it would be best if Anthony found another team.

Anthony’s role was to nurture Porzingis, teach him how to be a pro, how to prepare his body throughout the season, and how to deal with fans and the media. Porzingis also got to see how to hold up under the criticism of a team president.


Jackson seemed to put all the blame for the Knicks’ poor season on the “rebelliousness” on the team, saying “there was too much push and pull between players and coaches.” He said the Knicks didn’t have an identity and said he would be more of a “mentor” this upcoming season.

Without a first-round pick last year, Jackson tried to fortify his team by trading for Derrick Rose and spending $72 million of free-agent money Joakim Noah. We all know how that turned out.

Now Jackson would have you believe he can build a team around Ron Baker, Willy Hernangomez and Lance Thomas — players he talked up at the end of the season more than Porzingis.

Add Jackson’s determination to continue running the triangle offense, and it is hard to imagine any of the 2017 draft picks being happy about the potential of being selected by the Knicks. Would you?

 

[floodarea]

You guys still with the crazy dumb trades.

Yall deserve Phil

 

[nick.]

I wouldn't wish Phil on my worst enemy

 

[Mark Antony]

I'm just wondering what Phil's performance review was like to earn him an extension.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Russell ain't ever gonna amount to what people thought he could

It's clear his ceiling at this point is a solid role player to bench piece

Labeled him a bust before the draft and I'll be damn right.

 

[nick.]

Majority of us thought Emmanuel Jordan was the savior

 

[floodarea]

I'm just wondering what Phil's performance review was like to earn him an extension.

There was no performance review

This Phil contract is just Dolan saying to us "**** you guys this is what you wanted so I don't wanna hear y'all complain anymore"

 

[Master Zik]

I wouldn't wish Phil on my worst enemy

Knowing the Knicks luck, when Phil leaves he's gonna put together a team somewhere else that's gonna lead to a championship.

 

[lver of jordan]

 

[nick.]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...es-assistant-josh-longstaff-article-1.3184188

 

[goldenchild9]

View media item 2441590

 

[floodarea]

Can't believe I'm wearing Knicks gear right now smh

On top of that there's also rumors circulating that we are in fact interested in trading for Russell

 

[Mark Antony]

Fairly certain he challenged the status quo on how poorly they were performing. Toxic.

 

[doxen5703]

 

[flyeed]

Phil

 

[essential1]

On top of that there's also rumors circulating that we are in fact interested in trading for Russell

You can be interested, you don't have anything available that the Lakers would want. So don't worry

 

[kingfoamnyc]

You can be interested, you don't have anything available that the Lakers would want. So don't worry

No one wants that scrub, trust and believe.

 

[the 718 truth]

Majority of us thought Emmanuel Jordan was the savior

I'm guilty af

 

[ballinsam23]

I'm just waiting to see if Sasha will get resigned.

 

[Air Pope]

I'm just waiting to see if Sasha will get resigned.

You should know this already.