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Official 2017 Knicks Offseason thread, Phil Jackson gone
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by pr0phecy718,
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Agreed, why would you come here.
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This. Everyone thought Porzingis was years away as well, but we threw him into the starting lineup on opening night and look at how it paid off. And I'm not saying that Frank will be as ready as KP, because I was preaching very hard back then that narratives about Porzingis being a "major project" were extremely overplayed considering the numbers he produced in the best basketball league outside of the NBA.
But even if Frank isnt ready, we are rebuilding. Give him all the freedom he needs, Let him learn through his mistakes, and if it works out then great, and worst case we lose alot and get a top 5 pick coming at us to add another young stud in the offseason.
IMO one of the biggest misconceptions that NBA fans have is that young players need to develop behind a mentor/vet before they are ready or else their development will be stunted. I just dont think that is true at all in most cases (look at the best young players in recent seasons and tell me which ones were back ups as rookies and came up behind an established vet. I'll wait.) and even when it might be true, it is only true with a very specific kind of player who has the necessary tools, knows the deal, and is with it. This is not the case with any of the PGs we are discussing in here right now.
When it comes to basketball, experience is usually the best teacher. You catch on to the game speed/skill level, learn through your mistakes, and work on your game with coaches. Thats how players usually get better more so than player mentorship/limited exposure. Young players usually improve exponentially from the time they are given major minutes and freedom and by putting that off with Frank, we would most likely be prolonging his development.
Losing a **** load of games with Frank starting at PG >>>>>> Losing alot of games with Rose, Rondo, Teague, Rubio, etc. etc. Would anyone really have a problem with a 60 loss season with Frank getting rookie-year-MCW type freedom at the point?
And for all the dudes calling Rondo a "pass first PG who plays defense," I would agree with you if you call whoring for assists being "pass first" and not playing a lick of defense in recent seasons and living off his defensive minded reputation from a decade ago as "playing defense."
And Rondo as a mentor? Dude would probably try to get the whole team to alienate Frank for thinking he is the PG of the future and throw a hissy fit whenever he steals his minutes/stats. Cmon now we're talking about Rondo here. I'm not touching him for the vets minimum. No good can come from it while a lot of bad can.
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Rondo hasn't played defense since 2010
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The only free agent guard I want is Patty Mills. But even he's gonna ask for a **** ton.
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Let this guy be our starting pg on the opening day until Ntilikina is ready
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No one's gonna sign if they don't know where we're headed.
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Wolves saving us from ourselves
Truth. Would've been another contract we wanted to get rid of sooner than later.
I agree with others let these young dudes cook
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anyone know how many roster spots we have to fill?
nick.
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Let everyone else spend big on Holiday, Teague, & Hill
Sign someone like Darren Collison or Ty Lawson to a 1 year deal
Sign someone like Darren Collison or Ty Lawson to a 1 year deal
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at Rubio talk now when we could've had him for nothing. Essentially it was nothing since Rose with his expiring contract (nor anyone else really) didn't contribute much in the 2nd half of the season. Now we'd have to give something that affects our future up.
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wouldn't mind patty mills or jonathan simmons
nick.
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Ben McLemore on a 1+1 deal? 
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We would have made the trade for just Rose. Wolves wanted Rose and a first at the deadline and I still say no to that deal today.at Rubio talk now when we could've had him for nothing. Essentially it was nothing since Rose with his expiring contract (nor anyone else really) didn't contribute much in the 2nd half of the season. Now we'd have to give something that affects our future up.
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Oh didn't know they wanted a 1st, yeah screw it then. Straight up though? take him.
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Steve Mills about to earn this GM job or wha??
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**** Steve Mills
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What's this I'm hearing about Rondo?
nick.
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Ben McLemore on a 1+1 deal?
Nooooooope
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the media is really dumb though... do they not understand melo wants to stay home and has a NTC? he controls his own destiny... stop trying to create headlines for no reason
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the media is really dumb though... do they not understand melo wants to stay home and has a NTC? he controls his own destiny... stop trying to create headlines for no reason
Very true
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Damn so we ain't getting Paul George then ? 
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Lol for oladipo and sabonis. Seems like anyone could've gotten him if they really wanted to.
