Official 2017 NBA Offseason Thread: Media Days begin

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Heard on the radio this morning the Knicks have won one playoff series since 2000? Good grief.
 
Genuinely happy for the city of New York. Like the villain in a movie has been defeated
 
Derek Fisher
Trying to trade Kristaps
Alienating Melo
Running the triangle
Cashing out Joakim Noah


Let's start with coaching staff.....

Or let's start with him forcing the rigid triangle and handicapping his players...

Or let's start with the piss poor personnel he brought in....

Or let's start with him publicy feuding with his main asset that he lucked into.....

Or let's start with the Melo situation.....

1. Melo was Never Phils cup of tea. He only resigned him cause thats what Dolan wanted. It was bound to happen. Surprise no one noticed that.

2. He went after Kerr who is also a novice Coach, but he got scooped by the Warriors, so he settled with Fisher. Both played in his Triangle for years, but imo, both would have had a hard time managing that D grade of a roster and trying to run a triangle with it.

3. He tried to run the triangle under a novice coach, but Fisher was apart of the triangle, so he understood how it should have went. Regardless, they lacked the necessary players to execute it. Melo is the focal point of the offense, but he doesn't pass and he is a ball stopper, so it just wouldn't have worked. Had it worked though, everyone would have been hailing him as a genius.

4. Rose and Noah were a packaged deal. NY fans are always *****ing about competing, even when they lack the talent to do so. He saw a possible way, however it failed. Signing Noah for 70 mill was questionable, but many teams made similar questionable deals with the new cap salary. Had Noah been healthy and Hornaseck properly utilize him , this would have been considered a no brainier deal. I expect Noah to return and be back to his normal self, however, I don't think Hornaseck will allow him to play to his strengths and thus, he'll continue to look like trash.

5. Phil and the Knicks didn't match cause there is a disconnect between himself, Dolan and the Coach. Phil never wanted Hornaeck, so I expected this season to be another failure.

6. They need to get rid of Melo and start from Scratch. Make Porzingas the go to and properly groom their talent on hand.
 
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This Will Cain dude that goes on First Take needs to be punched by me. He wants to be Skip Bayless so bad
 
Love IT's game but man I would give him up first before Bradley.

Dude balled out this season, led Boston to #1 seed.... he was suppose to get a bag. :{

Lost his sister and everything. Yet he's the first to be disposed.

won't ever stop being a ******. Can ball. but midgets are waaaaay easier to guard. Especially in the half court.

wait, is ****** politically correct? little person?
 
won't ever stop being a ******. Can ball. but midgets are waaaaay easier to guard. Especially in the half court.

wait, is ****** politically correct? little person?
With all that being said it would still have been nice if collector didn't ghost on us and took his lumps
 
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Knicks gotta let Melo walk if they don't want this Phil release to be in vain
 
Derek Fisher
Trying to trade Kristaps
Alienating Melo
Running the triangle
Cashing out Joakim Noah


Let's start with coaching staff.....

Or let's start with him forcing the rigid triangle and handicapping his players...

Or let's start with the piss poor personnel he brought in....

Or let's start with him publicy feuding with his main asset that he lucked into.....

Or let's start with the Melo situation.....

1. Melo was Never Phils cup of tea. He only resigned him cause thats what Dolan wanted. It was bound to happen. Surprise no one noticed that.

2. He went after Kerr who is also a novice Coach, but he got scooped by the Warriors, so he settled with Fisher. Both played in his Triangle for years, but imo, both would have had a hard time managing that D grade of a roster and trying to run a triangle with it.

3. He tried to run the triangle under a novice coach, but Fisher was apart of the triangle, so he understood how it should have went. Regardless, they lacked the necessary players to execute it. Melo is the focal point of the offense, but he doesn't pass and he is a ball stopper, so it just wouldn't have worked. Had it worked though, everyone would have been hailing him as a genius.

4. Rose and Noah were a packaged deal. NY fans are always *****ing about competing, even when they lack the talent to do so, the idiot fans still want wine out of water as if he's Jesus himself. This type of mentality can be applied to every NYC sports team. We saw it with the Jets, Giants, Knicks, Mets, Yankees, Nets, Rangers etc. The fans in NY are illogical. Signing Noah for 70 mill was questionable, but many teams made similar questionable deals with the new cap salary. Had Noah been healthy and Hornaseck properly utilize him , this would have been considered a no brainier deal. I expect Noah to return and be back to his normal self, however, I don't think Hornaseck will allow him to play to his strengths and thus, he'll continue to look like trash.

5. Phil and the Knicks didn't match cause there is a disconnect between himself, Dolan and the Coach. Phil never wanted Hornaeck, so I expected this season to be another failure.

6. They need to get rid of Melo and start from Scratch. Make Porzingas the go to and properly groom their talent on hand.
 
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Lol now everyone goes back to hating melo

The Melo hate gets over the top but he also brought all of this on himself.

Carmelo has played more seasons already than Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. He has won a total of three playoff series in his career. He's about to go down as the most unsuccessful playoff player of possibly any Hall of Famer ever.

People want to rag on the Knicks operation, which is justified - but people forget Melo essentially asked to be traded there. He peaced out on a Denver team that just went 50-32, 54-28 and 53-29.
 
Darren Rovell
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Phil Jackson worked for the Knicks for 1,200 days. He was paid $60 million for it or $50,000 a day.



gah damn. knicks lost..but phil won.
 
"Noah to return to his former self?"

And nothing was said about his handling of KP. That was terrible.

Phil was set in his ways. He didn't want to adjust. He wanted everything else to adjust to his ways.
 
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