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Negative VORP
Negative BPM
Negative DBPM
Negative OBPM
98 ORTG
112 DRTG
Below league average TS
Below league average PER
More TO’s than assist
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Negative VORP
Negative BPM
Negative DBPM
Negative OBPM
98 ORTG
112 DRTG
Below league average TS
Below league average PER
More TO’s than assist
MVP
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- Feb 28, 2008
- 83,182
- 86,052
Aight...now do it again the next draft? You always draft w/upside in mind when you're drafting that high. Stockpile as much high end potential talent as you can.
BI's red flags are showing a bit, making it all the more vital that LAL should of went w/talent and upside instead of high floor (Lonzo)
Lonzo's red flags were too apparent for the #2 pick and his ceiling as a ball player was evident, even at UCLA.
Not if they already knew Bron was coming, which was likely the case at the time of the draft last year. I assume y'all saying Fox should have been the pick, but I seriously doubt he'd be impacting the game like he is now as a 4th option.
- Sep 18, 2003
- 62,166
- 135,222
Siakim >>> Ingram
- Sep 18, 2003
- 62,166
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He’d be the second option
- Jan 23, 2015
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Not even debatable
- Jan 2, 2010
- 83,282
- 119,427
- Jul 18, 2013
- 32,950
- 81,959
Much like Lonzo's shooting splits, these numbers are all anomalous
- Oct 26, 2016
- 21,004
- 31,076
My guy Pete put together a cool video of lonzo's finishing around the rim this year.
Just look at how low he finishes around the rim, how much of a mess his floaters are, how poor his footwork is, his touch & feel as an individual ball player is so far away from other PG's.
EVEN IF you knew you were getting LBJ + PG or KD or whoever, it would have behooved you to get someone else who was at least further along offensively than Lonzo is, and someone who can be the face of a franchise w/KD post LBJ or something.
D Fox is making almost 40% of his open / wide open 3's combined and has real offensive instincts both as a scorer and playmaker. They could have done better w/ the #2 pick, but Lonzo's fine for now. 3&D guy.
Just look at how low he finishes around the rim, how much of a mess his floaters are, how poor his footwork is, his touch & feel as an individual ball player is so far away from other PG's.
EVEN IF you knew you were getting LBJ + PG or KD or whoever, it would have behooved you to get someone else who was at least further along offensively than Lonzo is, and someone who can be the face of a franchise w/KD post LBJ or something.
D Fox is making almost 40% of his open / wide open 3's combined and has real offensive instincts both as a scorer and playmaker. They could have done better w/ the #2 pick, but Lonzo's fine for now. 3&D guy.
B Sox
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- Mar 31, 2011
- 73,416
- 118,157
As far as Lonzo's scoring potential, what is the difference between what he does, and say, Robert Covington?
MVP
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- Feb 28, 2008
- 83,182
- 86,052
- Oct 26, 2016
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I disagree. Fox can hit a open 3, can guard, and has real playmaking skills for himself and others. Lonzo right now in the half court is a total mess if it isn't a 3, and that's poor for the #2 pick.
I am not saying that the ball pick is bad, but what I am saying is that you should be trying to accumulate the most talent possible w/the #2 pick, regardless if bron is coming or not.
- Mar 24, 2001
- 44,834
- 66,536
There's 18 guys averaging between 15 and 16ppg. 6 average 3 ftm per, only one has 4+ ftm
- Sep 18, 2003
- 62,166
- 135,222
The difference between 0.7 free throws and 3 is huge
- Sep 18, 2003
- 62,166
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Imagine thinking anyone on the Lakers not named lebron is better than fox or siakim
- Mar 24, 2001
- 44,834
- 66,536
It needs to get better but I think the moral is you don't need to be a high volume free throw guy just to put up 15. Zo's issue right now is he doesn't get enough minutes/shots
nick.
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- Dec 27, 2012
- 73,713
- 101,030
It's 189 more FTM over an 82 game season.
Lonzo currently shoots 57% from the line so that's like 330 more FTA
- Oct 26, 2016
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- 31,076
Umm
Lonzo Ball has played 19 games this year.
Over his last 10 he's at 7.3 ppg 30% on 3's while taking 0.5 FTA per while missing wide left, wide right, way short, etc. (Basically he's trending in the other direction while missing like someone who can't shoot. I believe he can become a solid open shooter guy) all the while the Lakers have been better w/him off the floor.
And you're telling me this is okay because they knew Bron was coming?
This is the guy who you want to be your #2 pick? Really?
Lonzo Ball has played 19 games this year.
Over his last 10 he's at 7.3 ppg 30% on 3's while taking 0.5 FTA per while missing wide left, wide right, way short, etc. (Basically he's trending in the other direction while missing like someone who can't shoot. I believe he can become a solid open shooter guy) all the while the Lakers have been better w/him off the floor.
And you're telling me this is okay because they knew Bron was coming?
This is the guy who you want to be your #2 pick? Really?
nick.
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- Dec 27, 2012
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- 62,166
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Nerd
- Jun 1, 2011
- 107,125
- 79,613
And he's turning into a great defender.
It's weird, Paul Pierce was always chubby too but he had nice longevity.
I think Pierce is an anomaly. Even at his “athletic peak” he was basically a 35 year old
- Sep 18, 2003
- 62,166
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Lonzo ain’t nothing but a light skinned frank ntkilina with court vision and a loud mouthed dad.
Lonzo Ntilikina?
- Mar 24, 2001
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- 66,536
Lol this is what I mean when I say people choose who they make excuses for . Certain players numbers aren't important no matter how damning they are. For others it's a death sentence
. Certain players numbers aren't important no matter how damning they are. For others it's a death sentence
- Jan 2, 2010
- 83,282
- 119,427
Siakim is better than Ingram now?
You _'s are funny.
You _'s are funny.
- Mar 20, 2017
- 24,148
- 31,799
I mean he’s having more impact for his teamSiakim is better than Ingram now?
You _'s are funny.
wouldn’t you agree?
- Jan 23, 2015
- 9,568
- 13,987
Siakim is better than Ingram now?
You _'s are funny.
Clearly you haven’t been watching
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