**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

[xxpizzo]

these days draggin by need NBA byke asap

thursday where you at

 

[youngwolf]

Do ya'all agree with this list?

The Top 25 NBA Players of the First 60ish Games

What sticks out to me:

• Luka at 21 over Klay (24)
• Westbrook at 20 (Beal & KAT over Rus)
• Ben Simmons at 17 (I ain't mad)
• Bron & AD (10 and 9)

Top 5:

1. Giannis
2. Harden
3. PG13
4. Steph
5. KD

LeBozo is way too high. He's not a top 20 player.

 

[addict4sneakers]

I’m not buying the assumption that guys would be better in this era. Able to play in any era vs better than the current guys?

Not me

 

[frshstunna]

I hope we dont forget what natural beauty is as we move along

Its gon come back around...once the likes start slowing up on their pics, chicks gon go back in the other direction

 

[youngwolf]

Can't put KD top 15 right now.

MJ
Kareem
Magic
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan
Bron
Bird
Wilt
Russell
Hakeem
Big O
West
Dr. J
Malone
D. Rob

If we're talking about pure talent and ability, I'm taking KD over everyone on that list not named Michael Jordan. And even if we're not, when it's all said and done for him, he'll finish as the consensus number 2 behind Jordan. And he may honestly surpass him depending on what happens in NY over the next couple of years.

 

[migu420]

I’m not buying the assumption that guys would be better in this era. Able to play in any era vs better than the current guys?

Not me

I just think those dudes would have better stats if they played today with a more open mindset the game has. We have dudes today who play the same type of game, just with more freedom to run and shoot.

 

[MVP]

If we're talking about pure talent and ability, I'm taking KD over everyone on that list not named Michael Jordan. And even if we're not, when it's all said and done for him, he'll finish as the consensus number 2 behind Jordan. And he may honestly surpass him depending on what happens in NY over the next couple of years.

Too much dip on ya chip

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I’m not buying the assumption that guys would be better in this era. Able to play in any era vs better than the current guys?

Not me

Agreed. Definitely gotta be cautious of assuming

Are we saying “better” as in stats or something else

Stats compared throughout diff eras is almost pointless

 

[B Sox]

I’m not buying the assumption that guys would be better in this era. Able to play in any era vs better than the current guys?

Not me

Yeah I didn't really even mean to open up THAT dialogue. I was mostly just talking about Bird in particular when comparing guys like KD to him, because he had the ability to do everything, but arguably his best skill was somewhat diminished because of the era he played in, when compared to KD.

 

[JD617]

Idk why Jordan was used as an example. He fit his era perfectly for reasons I've gone over before. He was the best iso scorer in an era of iso scoring, and he also wasn't a great three point shooter.

Also, can’t talk about physicality without also talking about the old illegal defense rule that made it easier to iso because the help defenders had to either hard double or stick with their man but no in-between. Couldn’t have help defenders waiting on the strong side of the floor like you can now. That’s why the league is way more pick and roll heavy now.

Jordan was fortunate in the sense that pace was very fast when he came into the league and stayed fast during his athletic prime, then slowed to a crawl as he aged, bottoming out in the late ‘90s/early ‘00s, then began to speed up again after the rule changes in ‘04. So it lined up perfectly for him.

 

[migu420]

If we're talking about pure talent and ability, I'm taking KD over everyone on that list not named Michael Jordan. And even if we're not, when it's all said and done for him, he'll finish as the consensus number 2 behind Jordan. And he may honestly surpass him depending on what happens in NY over the next couple of years.

It's not his game he gets judged on. If he stays in gs he could win fifty rings, and people would not put him there. He goes to New York and doesnt win anything, which is what would happen because it's the Knicks, hes nowhere near the top. Hes already pissed this generation off.

 

[addict4sneakers]

I just think those dudes would have better stats if they played today with a more open mindset the game has. We have dudes today who play the same type of game, just with more freedom to run and shoot.

Based on what though? Like MJ was a phenomenal talent of course, is he more talented than lebron or KD? I don’t know by how much.

 

[MVP]

Agreed. Definitely gotta be cautious of assuming

Are we saying “better” as in stats or something else

Stats compared throughout diff eras is almost pointless

I meant better stats and better players since the style of play. Plus these guys have the highest of basketball IQs. Bird, Magic, MJ, Bean in particular were killers as well to boot. This is the golden age of elite wings and small ball.

 

[migu420]

We'll never know, but guys like Lewis and stoyacovich where tall lengthy shooters in an era of teams throwing guys at shaq and Hakeem. The emphasis on floor spacing would have helped them immensely.

 

[B Sox]

We'll never know, but guys like Lewis and stoyacovich where tall lengthy shooters in an era of teams throwing guys at shaq and Hakeem. The emphasis on floor spacing would have helped them immensely.

They were the floor spacers though. This logic would be more applicable to guys like Shaq and Hakeem where they'd have more room to operate since the spacing was better and teams couldn't just crowd the paint to defend them.

 

[migu420]

I member when dudes like the big country dude were high end draft picks, that's where the focus was. Those dudes would get eaten up and exhausted today.

 

[addict4sneakers]

We'll never know, but guys like Lewis and stoyacovich where tall lengthy shooters in an era of teams throwing guys at shaq and Hakeem. The emphasis on floor spacing would have helped them immensely.

Peja and Rashard were getting up 7 threes per game in their prime, they’d be the exact same guys

 

[getback]

We'll never know, but guys like Lewis and stoyacovich where tall lengthy shooters in an era of teams throwing guys at shaq and Hakeem. The emphasis on floor spacing would have helped them immensely.

Sounding it out though

 

[nick.]

Idk why Jordan was used as an example. He fit his era perfectly for reasons I've gone over before. He was the best iso scorer in an era of iso scoring, and he also wasn't a great three point shooter.

So....Mike was a product of his era?

Michael DeRozan

 

[vood99]

I member when dudes like the big country dude were high end draft picks, that's where the focus was. Those dudes would get eaten up and exhausted today.

migu420 I get what you're saying with this statement, but 'Big Country' was slow and exhausted even back then.

 

[HIM]

Rodney rodgers would be an all-star

 

[addict4sneakers]

Let’s keep it 10000, KD and lebron are the most talented wings we’ve ever seen. To think MJ, Kobe, or Bird would be ahead of them in any era is laughable to me

 

[kingfoamnyc]

All I know is that Kobe would be buns in this era too.

 

[frshstunna]

Respect Big Country Reeves plz , did alot for NBA basketball in Canada

 

[migu420]

Peja and Rashard were getting up 7 threes per game in their prime, they’d be the exact same guys

Lewis only averaged 7 once, peja never averaged 7.