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**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**
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I believe he was, but I'm biased.
When you say Bron and KD are the most talented, physically I agree there's nobody that compares outside of Wilt. There's more than that though when you get on the court.
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Man don't even bother when I heard the Kobe slander I knew logic was in short supply.
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think what kobe lacked in his "physical gifts" he made up for in skills and fundamentals
Bean was pretty athletic though too
Bean was pretty athletic though too
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I don’t think there’s an intangible lacking for either KD or Lebron.
I’ll talk KD because it’s easy to call him a B and rightfully so, he made a HAN move. But on the biggest stage against lebron, he’s been better than lebron. Does the team around him help? Of course. It also helped Magic, bird, Kobe, MJ and everyone else playing alongside top 5 players all time at their respective positions. Game 3 KD in the 18 finals took balls. He’s a killer
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It definitely was lacking in Lebron until Wade turned the team over to him and KD until he got next to Steph.
I don't think that was ever an issue for the other 5 guys. They had it from jump. And that's one of my things with the guys in this era that they wilt under the pressure or maybe just the comrade makes it different.
It's also why I'm becoming a bigger and bigger fan of Giannis, he's a throwback in all the best possible ways mentality wise.
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Great players would be great in any era. Lets stop this nonsense about players being a product of their era.
Dudes giving excuses on why Jordan was GOAT now
Dudes giving excuses on why Jordan was GOAT now
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Dudes giving excuses on why Jordan was GOAT now
It's not an excuse. It's just a conversation about the style of play and pace in different eras. It's not even slander.
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But you can argue the killer instinct or whatever was lacking when Kobe blew a 3-1 lead or when magic had the Memorial Day massacre. Jordan lost a game 7 ECF by 19 and his team only had 74 (he was great though)
It happens
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Obvious answer heart, killer instinct or did you want a more thought out answer.
Someone already mentioned fundamentals.
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Nah.
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So do you get one pass of wilting as someone said, but after that your legacy takes a hit each time?
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Fundamentals is such a vague term in basketball. It’s not like we’re talking about high school or college kids.
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^^^ I’ve talked my fair share of **** about KD, but dude really is a monster. A 7 footer who’s an elite shooter and can handle like a guard. He can get a good look basically any time he touches it because of his size and shooting ability.
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Who’s legacy should take a hit?
# of rings don’t tell the whole story for me in terms of legacy and talent or all time greatness
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Nick Young is something else man
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When you think about, he's actually from the future.
He's what future "bigs" will evolve into. The 7-footer with the ability to shoot the three, defend the guard in a switch, and handle the ball is what we're trending towards. He's already there.
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Kev at the beginning trying to pull a Ratsull 
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Savage 
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TT
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^^^ TT was looking for a way out...and that’s one way to find it...
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