**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

[casper90403]

So hold on... we've heard all year how no superstar wants to deal with the Bron circus, Klutch running the franchise, Lebrons theatrics & grapple of a team (all rightfully so).... but now Kyrie has always been a "headcase" because he demanded a trade out of that Knowing Lebron was gonna leave the next year?

The Cavs team got to the finals three times in a row with Kyrie being the clear cut second option. but somehow he's a toxic guy that will destroy your locker room now? Dudes are painting Kyrie out to be a Sheed wallace/Dennis Rodman sort of player . the spin is ridiculous on the Kyrie narrative now.

Listening to Lowe's pod and this Clowncake windhorst says this in response to Kyrie's video " it has Weird overlaying music, weird overlaying voiceover... and reeks of someone who has too much money & too much time..." .. and Lowe is agreeing acting like Kyrie is speaking an entirely different language or if it's extremely Bizarre.

the IG video is literally a collage of videos of him on a china tour, shots with his family, playing with his daughter & him hooping... the backdrop just has quotes from people like Ali, Marley etc etc... what the **** is so hard to distinguish about the video.

Kyrie didn't wanna play in Boston, didn't like Brad Stevens/Celtics way of doing things and split... now he's a malcontent who could damage your entire lockeroom from the ground up FOH. Kyrie just another superstar player that has a bit of diva too him, they're extreme reaches right now.

Wrong.

I was always told growing up, those who can't spot the weirdo is usually a weirdo himself.

 

[D_eezus]

kemba and kyrie is the same ****

two shoot firsts pass later pg's.. celtics just swapping them out to become even more mediocre since walker is WORSE than irving..

they lost that AD sweepstakes now they are grasping at straws.

This!!!!
Kemba just a better “locker room guy”

 

[B Sox]

What are you basing this off of?

I'm saying

If a bunch of Charlotte fans started echoing this sentiment, then I'd have to agree. That doesn't really seem to be the case though.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Doesn’t come off as someone who can keep young players in check. Too many egos to control on that Celtics roster. Their best players and coach couldn’t do it.

I don’t know how you came to this conclusion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ch...ports/charlotte-hornets/article228422659.html

 

[MVP]

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[papichino]

trynafeelmink

Have you seen how Kyrie played against Bucks and how he literally said who cares that they're losing? The finger pointing and pouting after saying that Boston is his home and made a verbal commitment?

You know that this is the second team that Kyrie has ghosted on his way out? He said he wanted his own team and he got that on last season's Boston and now he's seeking what?

 

[ballinsam23]

What are you basing this off of?

Probably every single news report that came out about the Celtics this season. That was the theme for y’all all year. Brad didn’t hold anyone accountable, couldn’t control young guys egos, Star player disgruntled, players mad about Brads approach with Hayward. All of your problems stemmed from the locker room. No one held anyone in check at all.

 

[getback]

What are you basing this off of?

The man just couldn't reel in Frank Kaminsky and Dwayne Bacon and their egos.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Nah man, love Myrie's game, but dude is a weirdo and a moody locker room dude that can't be your #1 option on a championship team and to this point hasn't figured out how to lead. Not saying he can't or won't do it in the future but it hasn't shown so far. His mentor took a while to learn how to be a leader as well so maybe he's following in his footsteps and it'll eventually click.

Being a #1 option on a championship team is a different conversation than being a toxic headcase for any team that may sign him. i'm not with this narrative that Kyrie is gonna destroy any team he touches.. NAH

there's a handful of guys who can be a #1 option on a championship team, he hasn't proven to do so that criticism is fine. But people pointing to things such as IG videos of him meditating and "he's a flat earther" as reasons why he's "weird" and is a red flag for a team is nuts & it's gotten to a real irritating space now.

 

[N41D]

and frankly boston is just simply better lol

Hot Take... Minus Kyrie and Horford moving forward... Is it really that much better?

If Gordon Hayward isn't prime Gordon Hayward, the Mavs already got the two best guys on either roster.

Luka can at least be hidden though because of his size. Thought the idea of him being some trash defensive player was a bit overblown last year.

The idea that Luka's a bad defender is just wrong. Not overblown, just flat wrong.

Is he great? No. Will he ever be? No. But he's not Dirk. Not even by a long shot.

He was passable defensively as a 19 year old that wasn't in fantastic shape and looked like he'd never lifted a weight a day in his life.

 

[jpzx]

Not that we didn't know they weren't going to be able to get a third star outside of a crackpot 1% chance

...but the Lakers' interest in Beverley means they have resigned to that fact too.

 

[nick.]

 

[bostoiah]

Probably every single news report that came out about the Celtics this season. That was the theme for y’all all year. Brad didn’t hold anyone accountable, couldn’t control young guys egos, Star player disgruntled, players mad about Brads approach with Hayward. All of your problems stemmed from the locker room. No one held anyone in check at all.

Oh I’m well aware of the Celtics chemistry issues.

I was referring to your comment on Kemba and how he “doesn’t seem” like a good leader

 

[squatchnt]

How in the LL Cool J is a 7 footer who can run the floor and handle the rock and beat you off the dribble unathletic

 

[captaintuxable]

There's a lot of stock put in on being the #1 option on a championship team but in the age of superteams we're currently in, who cares? That went out the window after The Decision.

 

[B Sox]

Sixers fans- Care for a gently used Gordon Hayward and some draft picks in order to get Butler to Houston?

 

[Air Pope]

Sixers fans- Care for a gently used Gordon Hayward and some draft picks?

Gently useful*

 

[suavamente]

Hot Take... Minus Kyrie and Horford moving forward... Is it really that much better?

If Gordon Hayward isn't prime Gordon Hayward, the Mavs already got the two best guys on either roster.

The idea that Luka's a bad defender is just wrong. Not overblown, just flat wrong.

Is he great? No. Will he ever be? No. But he's not Dirk. Not even by a long shot.

He was passable defensively as a 19 year old that wasn't in fantastic shape and looked like he'd never lifted a weight a day in his life.

they have way more depth

 

[HIM]

If the sixers lose Tobi and Jimmy...oof

Yea, Kawhi should stay

 

[casper90403]

Charly Caruso filling in for Molly Q on First Take today? Need to see this more.

 

[Mike dunleavy]

Not toxic at all

 

[gaiiige]

praise god

haynes is probably going to the one to break the kd signing with how close he is to him

 

[N41D]

The Kemba takes in here are wild.

The hell about that dude, in any way, suggests he's not a great leader?

they have way more depth

Go back and look at that roster moving into next year... Do they?

Horford - Gone.
Kyrie - Gone
Rozier - Probably gone.
Morris - Gone.
Baynes - Gone.
Theis - Probably gone.

There's a whole lot of talent likely not coming back.

 

[100027]

Speaking of Luka, I haven’t seen any hype about him getting in shape yet this offseason.

 

[Mike dunleavy]

Sixers fans- Care for a gently used Gordon Hayward and some draft picks in order to get Butler to Houston?

Solid pick n roll partner for embiid