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The reason we can’t find more than two or three is because the system has funneled everything to two or three, maaaaaybe 4 or 5 programs.
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The reason we can’t find more than two or three is because the system has funneled everything to two or three, maaaaaybe 4 or 5 programs.
I’m not exclusively talking this year.We could agree to disagree. Letting Texas A&M, Cincinnati or Oklahoma wouldn't get us any closer to a championship this season.
It’s really this simple, but ppl acting like they can’t see itI would like to see 8.
The 5 P5 champion's, the highest ranked group of 5 and two at large.
It’s really this simple, but ppl acting like they can’t see it
1. You’d still have the G5 and at large problemShould be 6 teams. Top teams get a bye week. The other 4 teams duke it out
You're a beautiful son of a *****, RyGuy. This nails it.My 2 cents is college football needs changes, for the sake of the sport. Same teams at top, same teams winning the recruiting headlines, same teams getting 99% of the coverage (and marketing) on your favorite TV outlet. It's a cycle that will never end unless some changes are made or forced. But...with no commissioner of the sport, and with conferences only caring about themselves, I won't hold my breath. This is America - the power stays at the top and no changes are to be made unless someone forces them.
ESPN is co-partner with the same 4-5 schools in this marketing scheme, and they all win out in the end. The much hyped "updated playoff rankings show" on ESPN each week is an invention to provide more fodder to the same schools to get their bases to tune in for. Everything is tied together, ESPN owns the bowls, ESPN owns the conference networks, ESPN wants the same popular schools to stay the same and locked in to playing the top games. Rinse, repeat. Cincinnati playing in a playoff serves no one but Cincinnati. ESPN doesn't want them or that small fan base.
Still...very little in life is guaranteed and you still gotta play the games. But Alabama, Clemson, OSU, Oklahoma & Notre Dame have grabbed 22 spots since the football playoff started. The rest of the entire country (125 teams) have grabbed....six.
And we'll be back here again next year.
My 2 cents is college football needs changes, for the sake of the sport. Same teams at top, same teams winning the recruiting headlines, same teams getting 99% of the coverage (and marketing) on your favorite TV outlet. It's a cycle that will never end unless some changes are made or forced. But...with no commissioner of the sport, and with conferences only caring about themselves, I won't hold my breath. This is America - the power stays at the top and no changes are to be made unless someone forces them.
ESPN is co-partner with the same 4-5 schools in this marketing scheme, and they all win out in the end. The much hyped "updated playoff rankings show" on ESPN each week is an invention to provide more fodder to the same schools to get their bases to tune in for. Everything is tied together, ESPN owns the bowls, ESPN owns the conference networks, ESPN wants the same popular schools to stay the same and locked in to playing the top games. Rinse, repeat. Cincinnati playing in a playoff serves no one but Cincinnati. ESPN doesn't want them or that small fan base.
Still...very little in life is guaranteed and you still gotta play the games. But Alabama, Clemson, OSU, Oklahoma & Notre Dame have grabbed 22 spots since the football playoff started. The rest of the entire country (125 teams) have grabbed....six.
And we'll be back here again next year.
Oregon?You're a beautiful son of a *****, RyGuy. This nails it.
The system was flawed before. They bandaged it with an even more flawed system that did nothing but make sure the sports biggest brands had a tighter stranglehold on the sport.
The question becomes... Can Oregon, Georgia, or A&M, or LSU recruit at a high enough level to kick the door down. Because they're the only ones that are even really all that close. And three of them have to go through the monster that's been created with Bama. And they'd all have to beat that machine probably twice in a year to win a national title since one-loss Bama is still a dead *** annual lock.
It's dumb.
The fact that you actually believe that. SEC drives more revenue than ANY conference in the sport. Because ESPN has a little ****** contract with the AAC doesn't make their interests in the AAC and the SEC the same. The AAC signed a $1 billion deal with the SEC over 12 years. ESPN just bid on SEC rights for $300M PER YEAR. For this deal to make sense, they have to pour money into how they market the SEC, CFP, etc. This is about dollars and cents, rabid fan bases who drive ratings, etc. Your understanding of this is extremely off.ESPN has TV deals with every P5 (and most G5) conferences. This idea that there's some type of scheme to specifically promote Bama, Clemson, OSU and ND (a team ESPN doesn't even have a deal with) is ridiculous. Those teams get more coverage because they win more often. College football is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more you win, the more attention you get, the more money comes into your program, the better facilities and coaches you can hire, etc. Success begets success.
I hate you.Oregon?
Ok.
TBH idk that A&M has an argument and it's not even clear they deserved to be in the top 10. Didn't win their conference, didn't make the title game, lost by 4 touchdowns to the only playoff team they did see, and aren't even as good as Georgia. Then you've got undefeated champions like Cincy and Coastal Carolina. Playoff committee got it right.
The fact that you actually believe that. SEC drives more revenue than ANY conference in the sport. Because ESPN has a little ****ty contract with the AAC doesn't make their interests in the AAC and the SEC the same. The AAC signed a $1 billion deal with the SEC over 12 years. ESPN just bid on SEC rights for $300M PER YEAR. For this deal to make sense, they have to pour money into how they market the SEC, CFP, etc. This is about dollars and cents, rabid fan bases who drive ratings, etc. Your understanding of this is extremely off.
It's funny how your immediate response to anything where your points being critiqued are "Mad", "You want this to fail", "conspiratorial" etc. If you're not capable of having a nuanced discussion about the actual business of CFB, then that's fine. It's just silly when you act like ESPN's interest in the MWC and AAC are anywhere close to their interest in the SEC. It's quite possibly one of the dumbest suggestions I've ever seen in here.You're just mad I'm not leaning into your conspiratorial SEC talk . Is it a conspiracy the SEC teams keep winning playoff games when they get in as well? Are the refs in on it too?
I'm not here to bang my chest about the SEC but I'm also not going to complain about the system being broken when it's not.
It's funny how your immediate response to anything where your points being critiqued are "Mad", "You want this to fail", "conspiratorial" etc. If you're not capable of having a nuanced discussion about the actual business of CFB, then that's fine. It's just silly when you act like ESPN's interest in the MWC and AAC are anywhere close to their interest in the SEC. It's quite possibly one of the dumbest suggestions I've ever seen in here.
And you shouldn't bang your chest. Georgia hasn't won a title in your damn lifetime.
Yea, like I said you lack the ability to have a nuanced discussion about this. And that's fine. If you think that this is about anyone's specific team "not winning", then you can just carry on with your SEC pride and keep it pushing, man. You're obviously the only person in here unable to have that discourse, and who doesn't see a clear issue with the CFP as currently constructed.You're correct that Georgia hasn't won a title in my lifetime and yet I'm still not complaining about the system being broken. Just because my team isn't winning. It's on us to get it done, I'm not complaining about the system not being fair . No one is banging their chest here at all, it's just goofy to suggest that we need to change the rules because the same teams keep winning over and over. If you don't like it go out there and beat them, don't complain about needing change
I don’t get how y’all complain these same teams (Bama and Clemson) make it because nobody can knock them out of contention during the regular season but then think adding more teams in the playoff is going to knock them off.
Is it just to see more teams in there to say “yay they made the playoff”?
Yea, like I said you lack the ability to have a nuanced discussion about this. And that's fine. If you think that this is about anyone's specific team "not winning", then you can just carry on with your SEC pride and keep it pushing, man. You're obviously the only person in here unable to have that discourse, and who doesn't see a clear issue with the CFP as currently constructed.