OFFICIAL 2022-2023 COLLEGE FOOTBALL THREAD

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Bobby Layne said:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but you don't HAVE to sign a LOI to participate, you can enroll early and participate by simply agreeing to a financial aid agreement with a school.
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Very true. The truly elite of the elite kids (if they are healthy) shouldn't even bother signing LOI's /NLI's on ESD or NSD with as
'binding' they are.

Should just show up on campus
 
tupac003 said:
For the SC fans

theathletic.com

Ten thoughts on USC's 2023 recruiting class and transfers after adding Walker Lyons

After Lyons committed to USC on signing day, how should Lincoln Riley's 2023 recruiting and transfer additions be viewed?
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How did USC fare in recruiting, transfer portal? 10 thoughts with Walker Lyons aboard​

By Antonio Morales Feb 1, 2023

LOS ANGELES — USC enjoyed a hard-earned win on national signing day when it landed four-star tight end Walker Lyons over Georgia and Utah. The Trojans also suffered a high-profile loss when four-star corner Rodrick Pleasant chose Oregon.

That seemingly puts the finishing touches on USC’s 2023 recruiting class — with the obvious exception of five-star tight end Duce Robinson, whose timeline for a decision is unknown. Aside from the possible addition of Robinson, there won’t be much roster movement until the transfer portal re-opens on May 1. So now is a good time to take stock and share some thoughts on USC’s offseason additions (transfers included).

1. Let’s start with Lyons because, from a USC perspective, that was the most surprising development Wednesday. Lyons visited USC last June but committed to Stanford in August and remained firm with the Cardinal until David Shaw resigned in November.

Utah made a strong push for Lyons and looked like a potential landing spot. Then Georgia established some real momentum in Lyons’ recruitment. Lincoln Riley and tight ends coach Zach Hanson remained aggressive throughout the process and ended up with a high-profile player at a position of need.

Hanson is a Northern California native, and those roots may have helped in the pursuit of Lyons, who plays at Folsom (Calif.) High school.

2. I don’t expect the addition of Lyons to impact the Trojans’ recruitment of Robinson. USC has had intentions of adding both ever since Riley arrived more than a year ago.
Lyons is supposed to take a Mormon mission, though, so he likely won’t play for USC this fall. 247Sports’ Brandon Huffman, who’s been pretty plugged in to Lyons’ recruitment, reported that Lyons will “delay his enrollment until fall of 2024.”

3. How should the loss of Pleasant to Oregon be viewed? In the immediate future, it shouldn’t hurt USC on the field this fall. The Trojans return Jacobe Covington, who solidified a starting spot in the second half of last season; Domani Jackson, who was a five-star prospect in the 2022 cycle but battled injury issues last fall; and Ceyair Wright, who started the first half of the season at corner.

They also added Christian Roland-Wallace from Arizona, who figures to start at one of the corner spots. So there wasn’t necessarily a need for Pleasant to contribute in 2023.

The transfer portal does exist, but a program should aim to stack as much elite talent as possible year after year through the high school ranks too. That’s where losing Pleasant hurts. Signing Jackson in the 2022 cycle is great, but signing Jackson and then following that up with Pleasant and/or Daylen Austin is even better.

It was also another high-profile loss to Oregon, which has beaten USC for Pleasant, four-star DL Matayo Uiagalelei and five-star OL Josh Conerly Jr. over the past year.

Uiagalelei, Austin and Pleasant are all Southern California prospects, too, which makes those losses sting a bit more for the Trojans.

4. USC signed six players who rank among the top 150 nationally in the 247Sports Composite. Only two of those six —DL Braylan Shelby and LB Tackett Curtis — are defensive players.

For the Trojans to achieve what they aspire to accomplish as a program by reaching the CFP and winning national championships, that’ll have to change. USC simply needs to land more elite talent on defense.

It’s already lost out on 2024 St. John Bosco (Bellflower, Calif.) safety Peyton Woodyard, a top-50 prospect, to Georgia. Defensive coordinator Alex Grinch and the rest of the defensive staff have to put a better product on the field on Saturdays, but they need to improve on the recruiting trail, too.

5. USC also signed four-star receiver Ja’Kobi Lane on Wednesday. Lane, the No. 392 prospect in the country, committed to the Trojans in August. USC beat out Oregon for Lane then. Over the past few months, there had been some doubts about whether Lane would end up in the class.

Despite being committed to the Trojans, he did not sign during the early signing period in December. Arizona State coach Kenny Dillingham, who recruited Lane while he was the Ducks’ offensive coordinator, put the Sun Devils in the mix, but USC won out in the end.

Lane is 6 feet 5, 180 pounds. He has to add more weight and mature physically because he’s very thin, but his height adds a trait that isn’t very common in USC’s receiver group.

6. Lane is one of four new receivers the Trojans have brought in this offseason. There’s Arizona transfer Dorian Singer, who was No. 2 in the Pac-12 in receiving yards in 2022, plus Lane and blue-chip signees Zachariah Branch and Makai Lemon.

It’s been quite a makeover for that group, which added those four and lost Kyle Ford (UCLA), Gary Bryant Jr. and CJ Williams (Wisconsin).

7. USC announced the addition of Florida offensive lineman Ethan White on Monday. White is one of three transfer offensive linemen the Trojans have brought in this cycle, along with fellow Gator Michael Tarquin and Washington State tackle Jarrett Kingston.

Those three will likely start for USC this fall and give the Trojans valuable depth. USC signed five offensive linemen in this recruiting class, headlined by Elijah Paige. Adding those transfers is significant for the reasons noted above, and they also allow the Trojans to bring those five freshmen along slowly and let them develop.

8. With the additions of Lyons and Lane, USC’s recruiting class (just high schoolers) ranks 12th nationally, which is up from 15th after the early signing period, and second in the Pac-12 behind Oregon.

Oklahoma’s 2019 recruiting class ranked sixth nationally. Other than that, Riley’s classes with the Sooners fell anywhere between ninth and 13th. Trojans fans expect top-five to top-10 classes, but this is around where Riley’s high school classes have typically ranked in his time as a head coach.

9. The transfer portal has added a different element to roster building, and that has to be factored into what each program has brought in this offseason.

USC’s overall class, which includes transfers with high school signees, ranks eighth nationally and atop the Pac-12, one spot ahead of the Ducks. That difference comes from the Trojans having the No. 2 transfer class in 247Sports’ rankings.

10. With this phase of roster movement done, here are where I think USC’s most pressing needs are …

Defensive line: The Trojans have added three capable bodies this offseason with Anthony Lucas (Texas A&M), Kyon Barrs (Arizona) and Jack Sullivan (Purdue). They could still use someone who could 1) compete for a starting spot or 2) be a piece of the defensive line rotation. Because the Trojans still need some proven, experienced bodies there.

Rush end/linebacker: USC has tried to add several rush end/outside linebacker types this offseason but struck out on most except Georgia State transfer Jamil Muhammad. Maybe Muhammad can do it, but USC needs someone who can rush the passer.

The Trojans have eight inside linebackers, so the numbers are fine there, but if a proven, quality player enters the portal, they probably shouldn’t hesitate to pursue him.

Receiver: USC has a good group but could stand to add more height and size at the position if there’s a player who fits that mold in the transfer portal. Or who knows, maybe Robinson — who could easily play receiver in college — can fill that role.


Still gotta get better on the Defensive line and DB's....
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I think we've got a lot of good young (unproven) DBs. So there isn't really anyone from HS who would help us from there. And Mekhi Blackmon showed we can get corners from the portal.

I think our weakness that we keep missing on is primarily interior DL. We don't have impact big body linemen on defense.
 
nako xl said:
Your Hurricane/Cristobal evangelicalism is astonishing.



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Mario… was Oregon’s coach when Hurts visited. You want me to retroactively defend Manny Diaz and Dan Enos? . I gotta deal with your Mario obsession via text AND in here. We need to run through the laundry list of recruits that USC blew the last few years? Including ones that Mario took from you and you cried about? :lol:
 
atlsfinest said:
SMH. Those programs located in "dumps" like Athens, Georgia, Tuscaloosa Alabama and Norman, Oklahoma have actual on-field results to help them recruit and all Miami can do is take recruits to night clubs and beaches. Miami is down bad
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Manny Diaz loved all the cheap glamour. Cristobal doesn’t really do all that with recruits, he’s a lot more conservative.
 
John Ruiz got sued yesterday by a former business partner who came up with the algorithm for LifeWallet. Claims he hasn’t seen a penny. Grab your popcorn boys
 
Bantz Lord T said:
Manny Diaz loved all the cheap glamour. Cristobal doesn’t really do all that with recruits, he’s a lot more conservative.
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Which is why I am ALWAYS ALL ABOUT THE U. Can't wait for you, me and dacomeup dacomeup roll up on atlsfinest atlsfinest with our MESSI JERSEYS and 23 and me reports in hand (showing that we are fans of da U) to speak with SPICE LEVELS NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
 
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