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Who will win the 2024-2025 College Football Playoffs?


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Does anyone actually think with how NIL currently exists that it is good for college football long term? Interesting is dwindling in recent years, players dip out at the earliest sign of inconvenience like they are divas owed the world when they haven’t proven anything, or chasing a check vs developing in places. At some point the hunger and talent level of dudes going into the NFL will dip. How much longer can it go on in its current state before there is some kind of correction? Having a 4.5mil transfer offer is insane. If it continues the $20mil roster Ohio State showed up with this year will look like a bargain.
 
Does anyone actually think with how NIL currently exists that it is good for college football long term? Interesting is dwindling in recent years, players dip out at the earliest sign of inconvenience like they are divas owed the world when they haven’t proven anything, or chasing a check vs developing in places. At some point the hunger and talent level of dudes going into the NFL will dip. How much longer can it go on in its current state before there is some kind of correction? Having a 4.5mil transfer offer is insane. If it continues the $20mil roster Ohio State showed up with this year will look like a bargain.

Everyone is making the same amount of money they were making 5 years ago. 10 years ago. 25 years ago.

It's just not in bags or briefcases now.

Tweaks will be made, but the sport will live on just fine.
 
Boomers and Gen X keeping the Nebraska vibes alive. It'll fade once they do

Then they'll make a couple playoff appearances and it will be back again

Nebraska been utter trash for over a decade, no way should they be lumped in with them other programs regardless of what they did way back in the 90s. Might as well throw Harvard and all them schools in there too that dominated in the 1900s :lol

The curse of Bo Pelini will never end

A team can suck and still be a blue blood. The fact there’s a debate shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the term among the “new” pundits.

I agree that it is difficult to lose your Blue blood status but not impossible. As witnesskb24 witnesskb24 mentioned, at a certain point Harvard and Yale are no longer considered Blue bloods despite winning national championships over 100 years ago. If Nebraska continues to be completely irrelevant for the next 20 years like they have been for the past 20 years, at what point do they get the Harvard/Yale, "You guys were good when my grandfather was watching" treatment?

Do you all think teams not recognized on that list will ever be? For instance, let’s say a fringe team outside goes on a killer run, how long do they need to sustain it to be recognized? Like LSU for example

Obviously this is all a matter of opinion along with stats of course

I’ve always thought it was an odd title seeing as how you never see teams lose their blue blood “status” nor do you ever see teams gain it

It would take one of the programs just outside the list (Georgia, PSU, Miami) on a Bobby Bowden in the 90s or Miami in the 80s type of run with multiple national championships, weeks at #1 and Heisman winners.
 
I think we should adjust for post-intégration when having that convo for sure :lol:

As a general rule I don't care about any accomplishments before the 1970s for a number of reasons.

1. The sport wasn't integrated

2. In the late early '70s we finally saw more uniform scheduling (number of games played, number of players on the roster, racial makeup, etc). Before that it was the wild West. Some teams played 8 games, some teams played 11. Some teams had dozens of more players on the roster than others depending on the conference.

3. Some of the really goofy polling organizations lost credibility. If one of a dozens polling organizations crowned a team the national champion, they could claim it.



Some of the national championship claims prior to the '70s were truly disgusting when you do the research. It makes UCF claiming the 2017 National championship look reasonable.

Heck, in 2023 Auburn, completely out of the blue, started claiming three more national championships 🤷🏿


Georgia claims in national championship from 1942 (in the middle of WW2). I'm like "All right man, whatever you guys want to do. If you want to claim a national championship while young men are dying at war, go right ahead. I don't care" 😂
 
Does anyone actually think with how NIL currently exists that it is good for college football long term? Interesting is dwindling in recent years, players dip out at the earliest sign of inconvenience like they are divas owed the world when they haven’t proven anything, or chasing a check vs developing in places. At some point the hunger and talent level of dudes going into the NFL will dip. How much longer can it go on in its current state before there is some kind of correction? Having a 4.5mil transfer offer is insane. If it continues the $20mil roster Ohio State showed up with this year will look like a bargain.

Interest isn't dwindling. Throughout the regular season, ratings were as high as ever.

I'm totally on the same page with you. I never thought that I would age into the old guy, "things used to be better the way they were" but here we are. It's great these players are getting paid but the lack of structure is frustrating to a lot of old schools fans. I used to follow recruiting pretty closely but I don't care anymore because I know half of these guys won't be in the roster in 2 years.

I hate players being recruited off of other rosters, I hate that every player in the nation is a free agent every single year. No other sports league functions this way. It makes it impossible to build things over time. If you are a G5 team and you have a successful season, your reward is every player on your roster transferring up to a P4 school. The argument to this is "well coaches have been able to do this for generations", which is true but it still sucks for fans.

With players being paid now, the value of coaching goes down. The best players in every professional sport make multiple times what the best coaches do because players are more important than coaches. At the college level, most of the most successful coaches are not successful because they are elite X's and O's guys, they are successful because they get the most talent. The logical thought process should be "let me spend less money on the best coaches and put that money towards just getting the best players and hopefully get league average coaching".

That being said, I don't expect a market correction. People had the same thought process when it came to coaching salaries and buyouts but even a decade later, we still see coaching salaries go up and we still see schools give gigantic buyouts to mediocre coaches. It just doesn't make sense but it still happens.

At the end of the day, we won't see any structure around college sports until players are recognized as employees. When they are recognized as employees, they get unionize and once the unionize players can collectively bargain. Once we have collective bargaining we can establish it a league calendar, transfer windows, enforceable contracts, eligibility limits, etc.

Of course it has been the NCAAs mission for generations to not classify college athletes as employees so here we are 🤷🏿

The natural next step for the current state of college football is that players will sue to have eligibility limits removed completely and we will see some college athletes (The ones without professional futures) keep playing college sports for a decade.

Everyone is making the same amount of money they were making 5 years ago. 10 years ago. 25 years ago.

It's just not in bags or briefcases now.

Tweaks will be made, but the sport will live on just fine.

This is objectively untrue. Top recruits were not making millions of dollars coming right out of high school. 5-stars were getting a couple hundred thousand and other benefits (nice new car, apartment, job for their parents) but they weren't getting this type of money. If you believe the rumors, every SEC starting QB is making well over $500K per year. It wasn't this way a decade ago. Not even close.

Donors are being hit up more and more, in a way that they never were in the past.
 
Do you all think teams not recognized on that list will ever be? For instance, let’s say a fringe team outside goes on a killer run, how long do they need to sustain it to be recognized? Like LSU for example

Obviously this is all a matter of opinion along with stats of course

I’ve always thought it was an odd title seeing as how you never see teams lose their blue blood “status” nor do you ever see teams gain it

One of the teams just outside of the list (Georgia, LSU, Miami, PSU) would need to go on a run like Miami the 80s (4 National championships in a decade, Heisman winners, multiple weeks at #1). The threshold for a Blue blood seems to be 5-6 National championships (which makes you wonder why Texas is there 😂)
 
Do you all think teams not recognized on that list will ever be? For instance, let’s say a fringe team outside goes on a killer run, how long do they need to sustain it to be recognized? Like LSU for example

Obviously this is all a matter of opinion along with stats of course

I’ve always thought it was an odd title seeing as how you never see teams lose their blue blood “status” nor do you ever see teams gain it
I definitely think it should be malleable to change over time and eras.

I'm with Bantz Lord T Bantz Lord T with UT being a blue blood in name only :lol. They shouldn't be considered a bigger/better program than schools with much more success in recent memory like LSU, UGA and Miami that somehow fall below the 'blue blood' distinctions.

No way is Nebraska still the same big time program it was some 40 years ago or have done enough to still be lumped together with the true elite. They're the equivalent of Indiana basketball.

The moniker should evolve over time to adjust to present context like it has in Basketball with teams like UConn and Villanova becoming newer gen blue bloods in the sport over the last 20 years.
 
These are the true blue bloods IMO. They’ve all been winning for essentially 100 years and none has less than 7 national titles

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Should be two eras. Because pre-1950s, there was segregation. With desegregation, the playing field changed. If a school like Texas is a blue blood, Nebraska should be.

1890s - 1950s are completelyyyyy different than the 1950s up until the present

And FSU, UM, UF and LSU have accomplished wayyyyyy more than penn state in the last 40 years
 
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Miami vs California in Berkley in basketball today, is there any complaining about start time and travel like it was during football season?
 
nako xl nako xl looks like USC snagged Notre Dames…GM? Chad Bowden

I didn’t even realize we had GMs in college football
Yeah Michigan tried to hire him last year and Notre Dame paid up to keep him.

Don’t worry though. Their fans claim they didn’t want him anyway.






 
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I would imagine that this is purely a financial move in Penn State is backing up the brinkstruck but still seems like an odd decision. This is literally a backwards career move.



And Chip Kelly might be gone

 
Knowles is from Philly I believe so it makes sense in that regard. I’m assuming Matt G the safeties coach will go with him. I’d love to see Walton (CBs coach) promoted, he’s a hell of a recruiter and coach. I don’t think Knowles and Larry Johnson ever patched things up either so it’s not a huge shock, just surprised he went to PSU but they should be pretty good next season.

Oh well coaches endure this stuff all the time after a natty. Definitely a big loss though
 
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