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I tried some **** from the ****** in the mall and they ****** up my 02 raptors, i was mad they made them turn faded as **** and crispy. I complained and got a refund and they gave me 2 of the sneaker products for free which i didn't want , i just wanted my damn shoes to look new again. I only use jason markks now and stay away from suede or nubuck shoes in general.Think your wrong about that. Some of those mall sneaker cleaners are not good for your shoes, I even had a footlocker one that took paint off.