Official Air Jordan 1 Retro High Thread Vol: Best Model/Thread

Best colorway?

  • Black/Red

    Votes: 1,044 44.1%
  • Royal

    Votes: 321 13.6%
  • Chicago

    Votes: 460 19.4%
  • Shadow

    Votes: 176 7.4%
  • Black Toe

    Votes: 238 10.1%
  • UNC

    Votes: 77 3.3%
  • Kentucky

    Votes: 19 0.8%
  • Neutral Grey

    Votes: 32 1.4%

  • Total voters
    2,367
eBay don't play that

if they determine your item is not as described for some reason and the buyer sends it back, it's not really like a normal return
I'm pretty sure eBay/PayPal has adequate seller protection so that buyers can't swap out things and claim that the product is not as described. If the zip ties or wrist bands are taken off, after you explicitly state that there are no refunds once it's tampered with, you have a strong case because the premise is that the buyer is not returning the product in its original and unused condition.
 
 
decided to finally do a 1 collection pic.. seeing some on here made my thoughts of mine go down with all the royals and breds
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 but heres mine… next two 1s will be DBs and quais. First collection pic so don't judge
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Clean set of 1s.
 
 
I'm pretty sure eBay/PayPal has adequate seller protection so that buyers can't swap out things and claim that the product is not as described. If the zip ties or wrist bands are taken off, after you explicitly state that there are no refunds once it's tampered with, you have a strong case because the premise is that the buyer is not returning the product in its original and unused condition.
Although it is a great idea, im not sure it gives you a bullet proof case, or even a strong one for that matter. Who is to say that the seller took the pics and didn't tamper with it after the fact but before shipping? Buyer could argue that it came tampered with already and that the seller was trying to pull a fast one. In fact, I could use your idea to scam people. All I would have to do is take pics of my authentic royals with the zip ties around the NA symbol, then send a GM with a broken zip tie. Should I be able to defend a not as described claim?

To me, although the zip tie is an added precaution, it does not provide a stronger case than just taking photos before sending. Either can be modified before the item goes out the door so neither is fullproof to defend yourself against a claim.
 
yeah good luck getting your money back when i sell them and send them, they can dispute all they want, their money will be in my bank before that happens
They will get their money back through Paypal protection. Paypal has a contract with buyers which says that if the item is significantly not as described, the buyer will be protected. In the situation that you do not feel like returning the money, Paypal will front the money to the buyer and then chase you after the fact. Sure, the money will already be in your bank... but don't expect to do anymore Paypal transactions until your negative balance is paid off.
 
They will get their money back through Paypal protection. Paypal has a contract with buyers which says that if the item is significantly not as described, the buyer will be protected. In the situation that you do not feel like returning the money, Paypal will front the money to the buyer and then chase you after the fact. Sure, the money will already be in your bank... but don't expect to do anymore Paypal transactions until your negative balance is paid off.
well what i meant was good luck getting that money from me, they can contact me as many times as they want but its just not going to happen especially when i know the buyer is being a douche and trying to scam me, tooth and nail i would fight it and do everything possible to make their life hell
 
well what i meant was good luck getting that money from me, they can contact me as many times as they want but its just not going to happen especially when i know the buyer is being a douche and trying to scam me, tooth and nail i would fight it and do everything possible to make their life hell
If you are talking about the buyer, they don't need the money from you, they get it from Paypal (and im pretty sure you get it)..  The buyer does not typically contact the seller, they just file a claim with Paypal. At that point you deal with Paypal directly. Therefore at the end of day, you are not making the buyer's life hell because all they did was click a button. That is the last they may have to hear from you.

If you are talking about Paypal, good luck with that.. Whether the $$ is in your bank account is irrelevant. The claim will be processed the same way without taking $$ transfer into consideration. They are not likely going to contact you many times for a single claim and if you fail to reply/participate, the claim will likely be decided in the buyers favor.  Lastly, they will not give you much of an opportunity to give them hell throughout the process. They will probably just freeze your account and eventually send it to collections at some point if the claim is not decided in your favor.

It is a sad reality, just do your best to find reputable buyers. The transaction isn't really complete until 45 days after, therefore I do not consider the $$ mine until then. In the meantime don't give anyone hell, or think that you have some right over the $$ / leverage for negotiation for that matter, simply because the $$ is already in your bank account. Do your best to be helpful to improve your chances of winning claims.
 
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You do know the person's address now though. I read a story somewhere that this guy thought he bought an xbox and the person just sent him a picture of an xbox and never refunded the money. The scorned buyer sent the seller a text and a letter everyday of some Shakespeare book that was like 3000 pages long and just kept annoying the seller for over a year haha
 
You do know the person's address now though. I read a story somewhere that this guy thought he bought an xbox and the person just sent him a picture of an xbox and never refunded the money. The scorned buyer sent the seller a text and a letter everyday of some Shakespeare book that was like 3000 pages long and just kept annoying the seller for over a year haha
I guess at the end of the day you do have the seller or buyer's address. Just don't do anything stupid that's gonna get you arrested. Doubt sending Shakespeare via text and mail is going to get you in trouble, but definitely not worth it IMO. Too much wasted time on revenge and time = money. On top of that, the cost of stamps alone for everyday in the year would probably be enough to buy another xbox.
 
 
I guess at the end of the day you do have the seller or buyer's address. Just don't do anything stupid that's gonna get you arrested. Doubt sending Shakespeare via text and mail is going to get you in trouble, but definitely not worth it IMO. Too much wasted time on revenge and time = money. On top of that, the cost of stamps alone for everyday in the year would probably be enough to buy another xbox.
he got a program/app to do it automatically for him

it basically spammed the dudes phone to the point where the messages never stopped coming in

i was dying at how genius this was 
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Unless his phone doesn't have a block feature or texts coming from different numbers, that was irritating for about 2-3 messages tops. If not, dude had to be aggy to the max! LOL
 
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he got a program/app to do it automatically for him

it basically spammed the dudes phone to the point where the messages never stopped coming in

i was dying at how genius this was 
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I was mostly concerned about spending time and money writing letters, going to the post office, and paying for stamps.
 
at that point i would have the worst reputation on Ebay and ruin all of his other listings by biding and not buying (if he sells that is)
 
^^^ FYI you can block eBayers with bad reps from bidding on your items. All it takes is a few bad transactions.
 
how do you tell whos reliable

you got scammers with 500+ feedback
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If anyone is reliable, its buyers with higher feedback. Obvious reason is that they are the ones who have the most invested in their account. Why throw it all away over basic scams and have it possibly hurt their overall credibility (as a seller and buyer)?

Maybe you will get a scamming buyer with a high rating here and there, but they won't get too far if they keep doing it... You think that eBay is going to let a buyer file a not as described claim over and over for different items?
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At some point eBay will catch on. They have told me that they take past claim history into consideration when looking at claims and deciding credibility.
 
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(Buying) Jordan's are a no go on ebay..dunks and air maxes are fine tho (most the time)
 
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(Buying) Jordan's are a no go on ebay..dunks and air maxes are fine tho (most the time)
gotta rephrase that… buying recently released jordan's are something to worry about. I mainly use ebay to find older pairs that you don't normally see and I've never had a problem at all.
 
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