Mr Dink
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Probably equal..... Final Flash by itself is a MUCH more powerful attack than Kamehameha by itself.....
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Like I've mentioned in the past the kaioken is a technique that supersedes the users strength. If you're gonna use that argument you have to say that krillin is stronger than freiza because his distructo disco could cut through Friezas tail and theoretically the rest of his body, or that tien is as 2nd form cell because the tri beam was able to push him back. You wouldn't make that claim because tien and krillin aren't as strong as the techniques they use. So why is that different for Goku?
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Can't even front there's a degree of polish in XV2 that was just completely absent in XV1. I might just daresay this joint is lit
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Trash episode
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Watched it live, episode was trash.
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I enjoyed the episode.
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Lmao thank you, vegeta would have to commit suicide to compete
The Masenko has done more...
That makes no sense. We're talking about physical strength. Goku has access to a technique that make him PHYSICALLY stronger. You guys keep comparing Ki attacks to a physical power up when the more accurate comparison is Super Saiyan. Its a multiplier, it multiplies your power level. The reason you guys don't want to acknowledge it is because Goku is the only one with this technique, which makes it all the more triumphant when he uses it. Vegeta boys, the L is inevitable
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Kaio what?
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Fist of the world king
Mr Dink
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Kaioken IS a ki attack. It burns Goku's ki in order for him to use it. Ki blasts are a huge part of Dragonball Z so they have to come into play when we're talking about who is stronger, physical or not.Lmao thank you, vegeta would have to commit suicide to compete
The Masenko has done more...
but is it more powerful than kamehameha x kaioken....no
That makes no sense. We're talking about physical strength. Goku has access to a technique that make him PHYSICALLY stronger. You guys keep comparing Ki attacks to a physical power up when the more accurate comparison is Super Saiyan. Its a multiplier, it multiplies your power level. The reason you guys don't want to acknowledge it is because Goku is the only one with this technique, which makes it all the more triumphant when he uses it. Vegeta boys, the L is inevitable
And how do you know Kamehameha x Kaioken is stronger than Final Flash? The only time he's done it is vs Gallick Gun and that wasn't nearly as powerful as the Final Flash against Cell.
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I always find it amusing when Kakarot fanboys, knowing their boy will always have the storyline go in his favor, can't seem to ever admit that Vegeta is superior to Kakarot, even for just a moment.
It's like admitting such a thing would ruin their childhood or something.
It's like admitting such a thing would ruin their childhood or something.
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Gohan (at this point) >>>> this Goku v Vegeta argument
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Bruh acting like Kaioken didn't leave Goku having muscle spasms immediately after using it with the high chance of instant death just activating it.Fist of the world king
Zamasu isn't as strong as Black and Vegeta was handing out free fades to black for 2 straight episodes.
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Mr Dink
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They're both even.
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Been reading on some forums. These Kakarato fanboys think SSJBK x10 can beat Beerus
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If you want to use the whole Ki blasts angle than there is no attack in all of Dragon Ball lore stronger than the spirit bomb, guess who's the only person to master that? Try and work around that now
If Goku SSj god blue x kaioken used a kamehameha against Vegeta SSj god blue with no multiplier and a final flash, you honestly think its close? Final Flash was knocked away by a cell jr.
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Vegeta begged Goku to avenge their race, the prince of the race begged a low class warrior to avenge their whole race...and he does it by fulfilling a prophecy that was thought to be a myth. Watched this man go toe to toe with a magical being on a god planet and reminisced about how he's watched Goku son him through the years with ease. Why is it that Vegeta can even face fact but yall can't?I always find it amusing when Kakarot fanboys, knowing their boy will always have the storyline go in his favor, can't seem to ever admit that Vegeta is superior to Kakarot, even for just a moment.
It's like admitting such a thing would ruin their childhood or something.
We can definitely say Gohan > Vegeta, Gohan has destroyed a major villain... Vegeta? Um...he hasn't. Yikes....
Remind me, who's body is Zamasu in? Black who? Goku. Goku has god's stealing his body.
Lemme hit yall with some facts, Bulma is more relevant to the Dragon Ball mythos than Vegeta....
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You mean the same spirit bomb that takes hours to charge and requires Goku to stand still with his arms up in the air so he can get killed charging it????? Goku can have that. There's a reason why he rarely uses it.If you want to use the whole Ki blasts angle than there is no attack in all of Dragon Ball lore stronger than the spirit bomb, guess who's the only person to master that? Try and work around that now
If Goku SSj god blue x kaioken used a kamehameha against Vegeta SSj god blue with no multiplier and a final flash, you honestly think its close? Final Flash was knocked away by a cell jr.
Final Flash was knocked away by a Cell Jr. because it's an attack that requires charging. The one he blasted Cell is much more powerful than the one he blasted at the Cell Jr because he only charged it for a few seconds vs a few minutes against Cell.
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The fact that SSJBK x 10 is a thing is a gotdamn shame
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Spirit Bomb is honestly one of the worst techniques in this franchise, in terms of actually being useful in a fight. Every single time it has required someone else to take a beating in order for it to be used. And usually it doesn't even end the fight anyways, after all that sacrifice. Vegeta tanked it, kept on chugging. Frieza tanked it, kept on chugging. Kid Buu's the only villan to be completely taken down by it.
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Goku fanboys are a plague on this Earth.
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Vegeta begged Goku to avenge their race, the prince of the race begged a low class warrior to avenge their whole race...and he does it by fulfilling a prophecy that was thought to be a myth. Watched this man go toe to toe with a magical being on a god planet and reminisced about how he's watched Goku son him through the years with ease. Why is it that Vegeta can even face fact but yall can't?I always find it amusing when Kakarot fanboys, knowing their boy will always have the storyline go in his favor, can't seem to ever admit that Vegeta is superior to Kakarot, even for just a moment.
It's like admitting such a thing would ruin their childhood or something.
We can definitely say Gohan > Vegeta, Gohan has destroyed a major villain... Vegeta? Um...he hasn't. Yikes....
Remind me, who's body is Zamasu in? Black who? Goku. Goku has god's stealing his body.
Lemme hit yall with some facts, Bulma is more relevant to the Dragon Ball mythos than Vegeta....
Clearly talking about Zamasu the Kai. There aren't two Goku Black's fam. There's a Zamasu and there's a Black.
Son is reaching all the way back to the Namek saga to make a point
Hit the bricks g
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So, we gonna have a goku vs vegeta debate everytime vegeta gets stronger?
Mr Dink
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Goku and Vegeta are even.
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Lmao so you'll dismiss the Spirit bomb because it needs to be charged and then make an argument for the final flash....because it needs to be charged?? Fam....
Again, im making the point that God's are stealing Goku's body because he's been known throughout the world, universe, galaxy as the strongest mortal out and about, not Vegeta. But to entertain your thoughts on Black Goku fighting Vegeta, while Goku was fighting the less powerful albeit IMMORTAL Zamasu, its the norm for Goku to fight the villain that there is no chance of beating. Vegeta was fighting Black because about 5 episodes earlier he was impaled in front of his son and called the opening act when compared to who? Yes, goku. So Vegeta should get his revenge because he's a warrior with pride. He surely won't take an L again this saga right?....... Lol the prince is taking a L next week's episode
Clearly talking about Zamasu the Kai. There aren't two Goku Black's fam. There's a Zamasu and there's a Black.
Son is reaching all the way back to the Namek saga to make a point
Hit the bricks g
