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One thing about Vegeta is that is he consistently surpassed by someone else AFTER he gets his power up

Saiyan saga: Goku w Kaioken
Frieza Saga: Goku w SSJ
Android/Cell Saga: Piccolo after fusing w Kami, Trunks after HTC, Goku and Gohan after HTC (Gohan SSJ2)
Buu Saga: Goku SSJ3, Ultimate Gohan
Super: Goku w UI and SSBxKaioken

Even if Vegeta does have a form up his sleeve, its gonna get surpassed by either Goku or Gohan (mostly like Gohan)
 
One thing about Vegeta is that is he consistently surpassed by someone else AFTER he gets his power up

Saiyan saga: Goku w Kaioken
Frieza Saga: Goku w SSJ
Android/Cell Saga: Piccolo after fusing w Kami, Trunks after HTC, Goku and Gohan after HTC (Gohan SSJ2)
Buu Saga: Goku SSJ3, Ultimate Gohan
Super: Goku w UI and SSBxKaioken

Even if Vegeta does have a form up his sleeve, its gonna get surpassed by either Goku or Gohan (mostly like Gohan)

I thought he saw the weaknesses of USSJ 2nd Grade so he stopped. After Trunks fought Cell I remember Cell mentioning that and thats reason Trunks surpassed him
 
That's all great but again, we don't know Kale, Caulifla, & Cabba's backstories. They've all evolved without tails, and in comparison, the tail-less Saiyans in U7 are Goten & Trunks— and they had the ability to go SSJ when they were babies.

How do we know what class Saiyans the U6 ones are? How do we know if they have enormous potential or not? We know very little of them. We won't know anything about them until IF they do an arc that's U6 based and they dive into their pasts.

Because they dont have backstories. They were introduced and amped with no real reasoning behind their strength to present more threats to U7 than just Hit and Jiren.

Ignoring the fact that Toriyama hated drawing Saiyan tails so he removed them all ASAP, Gohan was still stated to be the 'super ultra-prodigy' as the only hybrid Saiyan ever born with his tail intact.

As the super ultra prodigy Saiyan this is what it took Gohan to go SS2:



Mans damn near passed out in the booth doing the voice acting with all that screaming.

As some random *** tail-less Saiyan this is how Cauliflower goes SS2:



She had just learned how to go Super Saiyan minutes before this and suddenly goes SS2 to block an energy blast? Cmon son

The defense for U6 Saiyans is poop, it's like being one of the cats defending EA for their Battlefront 2 *******. If it aint right it aint right
 
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Once again though, Vegeta will achieve his new power up by his GOD. DAMN. SELF.

No help, no temporary power supply, no gimmicks

JUST. STRAIGHT. WERK.
 
Yea dude has COPD and going for lung transplant. There's gofundme set up for it.

RIP. So Young too. Anyone know the cause?
 
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