Official DragonBall Z Thread. R.I.P Akira Toriyama. You will be missed

Jiren is a good guy. I just don't understand his reasoning. You don't trust people, but you're a pride trooper?

With that trash back story i wish they would've just kept it a mystery. Manga will probably explore it a bit more though
 
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lets get to the main event... vegeta done had 10 emotional speeches by now.
 
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Super might be over but we'll get another series before too long if it's not called super when it comes back. We gotta see Goku wash Beerus. It feels like Dragon Ball as a whole is coming to an end. Goku and Vegeta are Gods. This man Goku mastered UI and Beerus couldn't. Where do they go from here? Maybe now we focus on other characters, goten and trunks gotta grow up
 
goku gonna die of old age and uub gonna take over cuz them halfbreed saiyans only train/fight when there's danger looming around.. when they live in peace & harmony they slackin big time
 
As long as Toriyama is involved Goku and Vegeta have to be the center piece of any series, they can do a few one off movies but he has no confidence in a full show without them. Could of did that with Gohan and probably should have but he wasn't comfortable and brought Goku back. I dont think Toei is either, I mean they made Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. to end GT with that movie. (Not arguing that its canon but at the time of its completion Toei was treating it like it was)
 
They didnt say beerus couldn't do UI, just said he couldn't do it all the time or hasn't mastered it.
Remember they're not fighting to the death. If goku can only activate it when he is near death or exhaustion, I wouldn't call that mastering it. Jiren would've been killed him by now if he could.

I dont think beerus can be beat by goku. It may be more of stale mate. we all know ssb vegitto was equal to beerus or better. but I dont think goku is as strong as that yet. . Beerus will destroy him before he can even reach UI
 
Props to vegeta!

..for solidifying his spot at #2.

Dude got his *** demolished, thought about his family, cabba and still didnt activate UI. I mean what else can you do. Dude just doesnt have IT
By “it” you must mean the backing of the writers :lol:

I KNEW someone would find a way to slander Vegeta and praise their precious Kakarot with this predictable *** writing. Ya boy was catching hay makers the same way until the end when the writers CONVENIENTLY swoop in.

What has exactly happened to allow Goku to suddenly master UI? Oh that’s right, he’s just the main character. FOH. :smh:
 
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By “it” you must mean the backing of the writers :lol:

I KNEW someone would find a way to slander Vegeta and praise their precious Kakarot with this predictable *** writing. Ya boy was catching hay makers the same way until the end when the writers CONVENIENTLY swoop in.

What has exactly happened to allow Goku to suddenly master UI? Og that’s right, he’s just the main character. FOH. :smh:

It always comes down to the writers :lol

No YOU FOH with your salty tears. Ya'll bunch of 2nd fiddle stans can slander gohan fans but you cant say nothin right now while the gawd bout to master ultra instinct
 
When Vegeta couldn’t power up :frown: but still went out swinging. He put in work the whole tourney :pimp: and him calling Toppo a loser still makes me :lol:

Goku legit was on the floor just yelling for Vegeta 3/4 of the episode though :lol:

Everyone in the tourney just forgot about Frieza too so I’m patiently waiting for his Undertaker risen moment too happen again :lol:

Next weeks episode looks great and can’t believe the series isn’t almost over already.
 
It always comes down to the writers :lol:
YOU DAMN RIGHT!!!

They are the ones who sit in a room and predestinate the fate of these characters...

I challenge you, give me one TANGIBLE reason Kakarot was not only able to obtain UI, but "master" it during this TOP, while Vegeta, who was an equal outside of being the main character didn't sniff it.

If all you've got is "Goku knows his body", and "Goku is more naturally gifted", then you're full of it.

They underwent the SAME TRAINING, and Vegeta took his SSB even further, Kakarot just had the writ... er, uh, Kaioken in his back pocket.


Look... this is the Goku show, and we all know it, but if you know that and still feel the need to slander Vegeta, you're wild LAME son, word up.
 
Jiren the type of dude to save a little girl from a fatal situation

Buy her some ice cream

Then slap it out her hand so she learns the price of being weak

Look... this is the Goku show, and we all know it, but if you know that and still feel the need to slander Vegeta, you're wild LAME son, word up.

Always facts.
 
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